IMHO, a very grave mistake. They (the Labour Party) are repeatedly signalling to Farage that his regressive views on the ECHR & immigration are to some extent valid.
IMHO, a very grave mistake. They (the Labour Party) are repeatedly signalling to Farage that his regressive views on the ECHR & immigration are to some extent valid.
It seems that was what Starmer was funded to do, destroying the Labour party and making a government that appeases or supports genocidal terrorist states, weapons manufacturers and legitimises extremists like Fartage's deform.
I was thinking the same thing today. the job for Stammer here is to clear the road for Reform.
Funny that, I thought he was ‘funded’* to get the useless Tories and their ilk away from the levers of power. *citation required
Check the donations they're public record. Lots of rightwing corporate types. But yes, there is a shift of extremist oligarch support from blue Tories to Starmer, and then to Fartage.
Musk is chipping a lot?
Don't just take my word for it though electoral-reform.org.uk/campaigns/up...
Note it claims all the parties, but that's another case of people ignoring the Greens, who don't accept large donations.
The Green cloak of invisibility is growing threadbare at last, and will hopefully disappear under new vibrant leadership 🤞🍃
Possibly, but not necessarily directly. Trevor Chin was a key name in Starmer's campaign funding, and the declaration of his donation withheld until after voting closed... Wonder why they did that if everything was legit?
I hope he succeeds in destroying Labour. Nobody with principles is still a member.
A premise that was/is unimaginable of the Labour Party. Although I am not sure this is the case, a lot of questions need to be asked. It may be a matter of time before the affiliated Unions withdraw their financial and political support.
There's a huge huge majority of people who have simply been disenfranchised, going from far left Corbynites right through to right of centre Cameronistas. It's as if violent white Essex men are the only people who have the vote.
Good point, clearly they are the section of the electorate who the media & Farage are very focussed on right now.
Who isn't focused on them? Actually I'll answer my own question, the Lib Dems and the Greens. God knows Labour and the Tories are falling over themselves to kiss racist arse. And the media (especially the BBC) is being even more accommodating to the far right.
"Going from the just left of centre supporters of Jeremy and Zarah, to the classic Tory right. But otherwise yes you are correct, only the extremists are getting media attention and support.
Fair enough. Corbyn is quite far left for the UK but probably a centrist for much of Europe.
Corbyn was never far left IMO. He represented what the Labour Party used to be & should still be. The only reason some perceive him as being far left is because 'new' Labour has shifted the party so much to the right - leaving left-leaning voters with no viable representation.
I agree with most of that, I think he is too far left for this country (and I should have qualified that as England in an earlier post) which is why he was extremely unlikely to get to no.10. The old Labour Party hadn't won since the early 70s. The English are largely Conservative by nature. Sadly.
Which was documented by Orwell in The Lion and the Unicorn. The problem the left have in this country is unity.
Yes, pure greed is a simple concept which easily unifies people (even if they're reluctant to admit that's their impetus). Helping people is far more complex hence disunity.
There are too many contenders fracturing the left vote. Statistically, the UK has voted for the left for decades, but because that vote's been divided into different parties, the Tories keep winning the first past the post race. We need proportional representation to prevent Jo Swinson type fiascos.
The UK, but not the English. Which Parties has the left split into? I guess the Greens but the Lib Dems were middle. In any event it's the right that's spilt now: Farage, Tories and I hate to say it, Labour. And it looks like the English will be going for the furthest right, having learnt nothing
We'll have to agree to disagree on that one. It used to be true, but as the old & wrinklies die out, I think the generation replacing them is much more politically diverse. Although I'm aware that some of my generation follow their parents' influence as 'tradition', many don't. The tide's turning.
Yes, I welcome diversity but they seem to be becoming more diverse in that they're shifting to the far right. That I do not welcome. What I don't see is a shift to the left. Wish I did.
Ignorance, greed & apathy. Far too many will happily walk into the trap & stay in it if it seems comfortable & the poison's slow acting enough for them to believe they might escape its effects. Far too many need a good swift kick up the arse.
All my (grown up) children were / are very favourable to Corbyn.
Many thought he'd be able to bring common sense to government. Sadly, those wanting to keep the status quo chose to sabotage/smear him. My parents (mid 80s) think I'm 'radical' for criticizing Tories, but my views are mainstream. Internet ensures the public no longer has to rely on biased media.
Interesting way of saying that the UK is shifted to the extremist right.
It has, and so have many countries. People are being manipulated to shift further and further right. What's particularly frustrating is we've all learnt about the exact same historical tactics and we know how it ends. And yet.