Let's get to the point that we can have elections again. That isn't until 2028. Like I told Zota, stop being so precious. You don't want Newsom for president, then don't vote for him, but we have to get there first. And I never said I want him as president either.
I don't recall you telling me to stop being so precious, but I will certainly say it to you. Stop crying about people being mean to your precious snowflake Gavin. If he's really a big boy politician, he can take what he dishes. If he needs your tossed panties, to defend him… welp.
Whose side are you on? Gavin hurt your feelings and you just can't get over it? JFC! We don't have time for any of your fucking purity tests. Its BS like this that got us into this mess in the first place.
You want to vote against him if/ when he runs for president, that is you right and privilege (for as long as we have them). In the meantime, don't take players off the board when we need all hands on-deck. Trump and MAGA and Heritage/ Project 2025 are the enemy. Focus on the task at hand!
He's my governor. For the next year and a half. Cool that you enjoy his mean tweets. That's fun for you. The dem governors of Illinois and fucking Kentucky have stepped up for trans rights. Other govs doing a better job resisting federal occupation and creating meaningful resources.
If you don't like Gavin Newsom's voters and current constituents picking on him when there is currently zero electoral risk to doing it? Then go have a good cry about it, snowflake.
Are you still talking about an election that is three years away? We don't win wars by only sending the "nice" people to fight. Will you focus on the fight at hand, for fuck's sake? Bringing a pillow to a gunfight is why we've been losing for the last 20 years. Still not crying. Nice try.
The fight at hand is my governor, who is mean tweeting (yay) saying medical care for trans youth should be banned, that trans adults should not be allowed to make their own medical decisions, perusing anti-homeless policies more severe than Trump (boo) He's a problem for me. Right now.
And some of his policies are reversals because he's currently trying to run in that primary three years from now by figuring out which vulnerable people he can use to ~triangulate~ Fuck that. Fuck him. And fuck you for treating this all like a spectator sport while Californians die
You know nothing of what I do off of this board to support keeping our democracy. I have not missed a single vote since I turned 18. I vote for candidates that support the greater good. Go ahead, have all the fun you want. May you get everything you wish for... and choke on it. Goodbye.
sounds like your panties are in a wad
We need a GOOD Dem to win. We keep running weak candidates who try to appeal to the right and we keep losing. Newsom is buddying up with Charlie Kirk and Steve Bannon! That’s not someone who can lead Dems to an actual win. That’s someone who will betray us for power.
I disagree with that assessment. Speaking with those two knuckleheads was a mistake. I've heard him admit as such. He was trying to navigate this complex landscape that we are in. I think that he's found a better formula. It's rattling their cages.
We need assholes in this war. Macarthur won significant battles in Japan and Korea. Would I want him as president? Hell, no! I still chafe at some of the comments he made as mayor of SF.
Newsom may be in this very same mode, but I want to win this war and make sure that we CAN vote for a president in 2028. Do I hope that there are better Dem candidates than him? Fuck yes! but I will vote for him if the alternative is another MAGA admin. I cannot sacrifice the good for the perfect.
I felt that you deserved a more nuanced response. Please accept it with that intent.
If the choice is between Newsom and another MAGA admin, sure. That choice is in *THREE YEARS*. Why is everyone so intent on whitewashing all of Newsom's MANY problems and settling for him when we have YEARS to find a better candidate?
Fair enough. I haven't forgotten his flaws as much as I am supporting him now in this fight. Definitely not whitewashing. I believe that there more people out there that can walk and chew gum at the same time, but we shall see. Praying hard for that!
And let me posit this: Do you think that all of the chatter about him running in '28, right or wrong, is an attempt by some to destroy the message by damning the messenger? That is classic PsyOps.
I agree fighting Trump should be the main priority because he’s a fascist asshole; but we have to pressure Dems to get us a quality candidate. Newsom is great at pissing off Trump; but his policies are ass. We gotta demand better of Dems because I’m sick of losing elections.
Pritzger for pres 2028 (he has the smarts & the money): Newsom for VIP troll. GOP can't tolerate being ridiculed on their own terms.