Yes because violent resistance has worked out SO well throughout history…Let’s replace violent leaders with different violent leaders!
Yes because violent resistance has worked out SO well throughout history…Let’s replace violent leaders with different violent leaders!
Worked out fine for France in 1789 and for you guys in 1783.
Violence is coming to the United States. I cannot believe that you won it see that. It’s already here, just not the physical sort. Yet.
“The physical sort of violence” has always been here in the United States. The US is founded on “the physical sort of violence”, depending on the color of your skin and your gender.
Violence is not COMING to the USA. Violence is the founding principle of the creation of our nation. The USA is founded on genocide, enslavement and violent oppression of others by rich, white men.
Pipe down and get out of the way.
and passive resistance has led us to where we are today, so...
People who are doing fine always insist that change will bring destruction, it will, but of their exploitative way of life
Resistance resulting in change does not have to be violent. haenfler.sites.grinnell.edu/subcultural-...
oh cool, there's a journal article. Throw that at ICE next time they kidnap sometime.
Grinnell Hippie College? Really? Holy shit.
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You play way too much World of Warcraft.Your paradigm of regime change in based on testosterone and steriods.Fun fact: the reason many women experience PMS mood swings and irritability is because of increased testosterone levels.So perhaps men are in a constant state of PMS aggression?
Grinnell college is practically a parody of a worked over hyper PC looney left institution. Come on. Also I haven’t played a video game since Asteroids and Donkey Kong. I don’t even know what World of Warcraft is.
So what is your win-lose hobby?
I climb and ski mountains. It’ll probably kill me eventually.
Active resistance does not mean violence. Both passive and active resistance are effective tools to opposing oppression. Violence results in a new regime of violence and oppression. Think about the French revolution and how it ultimately resulted in creating the monster Napoleon.
I dunno, American Revolution was pretty violent. Seems successful, at least up until 10 years ago or so.
If we had stayed a colony of England, slavery would have been abolished in 1833, without a civil war, and today we would have universal health care like Canada.
ok we're done.
I know, it’s painful to think…
tbh, just sounds like you hate America. #NoKings!!!
I don’t think you are up to date on history (or even aware).
....how the fuck do you think you got here?
…how the fuck do you think I got here? Bering strait? Transatlantic slave trade ship? The Titanic? Across the Rio Grande? The Mayflower? What are your assumptions,
The American Revolution, pussy. Fuck, you would have made a really "good German." If the world was a weak and cowardly as you are, we'd all be speaking German
Also, calling someone a pussy is not actually an insult. Vaginas are heroic.
Jesus, Tumblr-brained idiocy. Touch grass, this isn't your communications masters committee.
Your assumptions that the Revolutionary War benefited anyone except white male slaveholders is astounding.
Lol, cutting the British Empire off of American resources benefitted the entire planet in ways we'll never truly understand because we didn't have to live through the inverse Stop being fucking dense.
Yeah except for the whole chattel slavery of black people and genocide of indigenous people
What the absolute fuck are you even talking about?
I’m sorry for you, son. It must be so limiting to view the world only from the perspective of white male privilege. I’ve got nothing but love for you, though.
Tyranny has never been handled peacefully. You can only deal with tyrants violently.
“Without violence, we totally disrupted the system, the lifestyle of Birmingham, and then of Selma, with their unjust and unconstitutional laws…The result on the national scene was the Civil Rights Bill and the Voting Rights Act” —MLK Jr
Imagine quoting MLK and then ignoring the rest of the civil rights movement. What you’re going to quote Ghandi next and argue Indian liberation was 100% peaceful?
Are you saying the civil rights movement uses violence to gain equal rights? So you think Kaepernick kneeling in prayer was violent?
I’m saying your glossing over the civil rights era and only focusing on King is misinformed at best
Tell me who were all the violent civil rights activists?
It’s not my job to educate you. Start with Malcom X, read some Franz Fanon and go from there.
I feel it’s my job to educate you though: cointelpro allthatsinteresting.com/cointelpro-fbi
No. It didn’t have to use violence. The threat of it sufficed. What did Kaepernick accomplish?
“[Kaepernick] has continued to challenge systemic oppression through his books, documentaries and his charity, KYRC.”
It really didn’t accomplish much aside from wrecking his career and making MAGATS look like giant snowflakes
How did the civil rights movement threaten violence?
Malcom X and the Black Panthers aside, when a large number of (mostly northern) whites threw their lot in with black Americans, the opponents of civil rights figured out that they were playing with fire and would get their asses kicked. Again.
The north winning the civil war did not result in equal rights for black americans. The fall out from the civil war was continued lynchings, segregation and enslavement through incarceration under a new government regime of racist yt men.
Which spawned the Civil Rights movement
The American government only acted to pass civil rights legislation because the threat of violence was lurking in wait and gathering strength
The French and American Revolutions would like a word.
Great examples of revolutions ending in new brutal regimes.
Are you a British subject right now?
Are you a yt nationalist?
no, what a stupid question
Yeah dude I remember when we all just sat around and talked with Hitler. Great guy, just had some misunderstandings about Jews. And don't forget the Confederacy. Remember when we talked them down? Good times.
We actually tried that! It was called the Munich Agreement in 1938 Confederacy I disagree with you on. We should have just let those racist idiots go. We would be in a much better place as a country today if we didn’t have to deal with those morons
Never mind the millions of people who would have been still held in slavery. And I’m sure having a hostile country adjacent to what remained of the United States would have worked out swimmingly.
Yes, it would have sucked for millions of slaves for a 20-40 years. They wouldn’t have been hostile towards us w/o a war. They needed the north. We could have bought our stuff from other countries. They would have imploded & come crawling back. Especially when other countries sanction them
To use a horrible sports ball metaphor: violence becomes a "jump ball". Violent resistance sometimes succeeds, sometimes brings an even worse regime, and sometimes brings endless civil wars. I'm also nervous that in the USA, the right wing has way more guns, and way more experience using them.
No, political instability causes all those things. Can violent resistance bring about political instability? Of course. But so can other avenues. However, violent resistance is the ONLY way to stop a regime hell bent on authoritarianism, where only the language of violence is heard.
Do you actually think that in a violent conflict, the left/progessives in the US would stand a chance against the right which is highly enriched for gun owners, cruelty, and actual military experience?
Me and and all of my MAGA hating friends are armed to the teeth and way smarter than the fucking hillbilly MAGATS So there’s that
Do you actually have any experience in exercising organized violence? A lot of folks in MAGA world do. Many of them are blowhards, but like I say, the right is enriched for people with actual military experience. The use of violence is like any other skill: it benefits from experience and practice.
You’re describing a bunch of people used to taking orders.
Having a bunch of people accustomed to coordinating their actions via central orders is generally a benefit in a military confrontation as the Soviets tried to explain to the anarchists in the Spanish Civil War.
Their actions were being coordinated by professional military officers not unhinged cosplay colonels. If they did find a competent leader we’d just take care of that problem first.
And exactly how are you different from the cosplay militia? Are you in excellent physical condition? Have you been in combat? Why are you assuming you are fighting MAGA militia and not regular and reserve military?
You're falling for propaganda. Does the right have more military members, absolutely. But for the majority, they're morbidly overweight blowhards with 0 training. *And for the record, the left has plenty of guns too. We just don't make it our entire personalities.*
I agree that most of the extreme right are COS playing, but thats irrelevant. What's relevant is whether the left could muster enough folks with experience in the military or other organized violence to counter the folks on the right with military experience. I've seen nothing to support that.
Only thing that ever has. From the liberation of countries and peoples to labour rights.
Go on with your PsyOps campaign on bluesky
Just someone who remembers their history. Peaceful change requires the other side seeing you as a person, or valuing the rule of law.
Actual peaceful change requires a united economic front. Money seems to change mindsets. Humans historically change their values based on what best supports them financially. open.substack.com/pub/robertre...
That doesn't solve the issue of Trump, that just makes him move on for a while off the trade issue. He's still a danger to human rights, international politics, and possible use of military violence against outsiders or his own people.
A general strike is not necessarily about trade/tariffs. Strikes are successfully used to gain civil/human rights.
And general strikes carry the very real risk of violence, especially when the regime wishes to use it to unleash their thugs. Look how quickly they seized on the protests in LA, otherwise campus protests against the invasion of Gaza even before his election.
I don't not salivate at the prospect of violence, but the forces that created our present situation will not give up peacefully. Peter Thiel won't just say "oops, my bad" if Trump is overthrown, he'll just find another one to pour money into.
Being violent causes violent regimes to be replaced with other violent regimes.