i think it is bad that the president's budget director thinks congress is an advisory body and that the constitution is a set of recommendations www.huffpost.com/entry/russ-v...
i think it is bad that the president's budget director thinks congress is an advisory body and that the constitution is a set of recommendations www.huffpost.com/entry/russ-v...
This was known before he was confirmed!
Looks like the Russ Vought Presidency has begun.
“And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned 'round on you, where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat?”
Because of Mike Johnson, we have no representation
Vought never thought Congressional funding anything other than a mere suggestion. Confront the trouble head-on until we overturn all of Stephen Miller's venomous administration policies. He is the power behind the throne harrychancey.substack.com/p/trouble
Well, neither congress nor the SCOTUS seem to care. Just remember, if the President can close departments without congressional approval, they can also create them.
Spot on! Oaths can be made meaningless without even crossing your fingers behind your back, too, it seems. 🤷🏼♀️
I think it's bad that the SCOTUS majority feels the same.
Maybe we should remind them, that the Constitution is the law of the land and has NOT been altered for quite some time. The flick of “his” pen doesn’t change it. Period. If they want to get rid of the Constitution, I suggest they prepare for every single law that was written using the Constitution
to be null and void. Including theirs. Then what?!
HELP
With this Supreme Court I’m not sure he’s wrong, as long as you’re a republican.
he knows it isn't. he just wanted to get there so he could control it.
The real president of the United States.
Vought and Miller are behind EVERYTHING! Scream it from the rooftops.
but the repubs in congress are 100% permitting and endorsing this
Well said.
Definitely bad for Democracy.
GenX here and we had Civics class in public school. We were taught about the coequal branches of govt! We need to bring Civics back or more young voters will believe the crap this regime dishes out. Worse, GOP will amend the Constitution to give the Executive complete control #NoKings #Teachers
I asked ChatGPT what happened to Civics class. I knew it had to do with GOP meddling, but wasn’t sure how. Here’s the main reason Civics has died out
Well, these big, devout pious Christians also see the Bible & 10 Commandments as a set of recommendations that they don't have to follow, but everyone else does, so...
They think God died, not to take away their sins and make them righteous, but in order to make them kings in their own whims!
So I can ignore the constitution and do what is like to this treasonous piece of crap. Interesting position to take. They think the only parts of the law that should be followed is the ones that protect themselves fuck everyone else. Fuck them
He looks like an unfinished circumcision
Scary person.
Every picture of this dude makes him look like the most evil dead eyed ass mfer to ever live
Thank you!
It's crazy that they've just decided to go all in on a recession.
Das ist ein Kampf, den man nicht allein führen kann. Wie lange wird es dauern, bis wir eine Regierung haben, die wirklich für das Volk spricht?
That was their plan on Project 2025
He needs to ☠️
He should is one of many in the Trump admin who should face investigations and prosecution if we come out the other side of this.
He is the Father of Project 2025 you expect him to go off brand? Yeah, I think he is a first class jerk who should be hung by his thumbs until he cries for his mommy. The problem wi this admin is they studied our weaknesses & they are gleefully trampling every single one. Traitors!
The current Congressional majority agrees with him.
Even the Dems in Congress aren't as alarmed as they should be. It feels like some are in it only for the insider trading opportunities.
This comes from the long standing horse-trading mindset. However the GOP is trading in rabid zebras now.
He's an evil little dweeb.
When this over, anyone connected to the Heritage Foundation will be a marked man.
We really do live in a post-Constitution, post-law era. We really have to adjust, and quickly.
It’s also bad that Congress has given everyone that impression. They castrated themselves in public and are just a bunch of cowardly fascist enablers who pretend to have power they willingly surrendered.
Not great that Congress and the Supreme Court seem to agree, either!
President Vought.. 🤔 Pass it on and maybe we can oust him like we did Musk. Otherwise PROJECT 2025 coming soon
It's already here.
Congressional Democratic leadership should demand changes to the rescissions process in any appropriations package since there’s no reason to believe Congressional Republicans can be trusted to stick to bipartisan spending agreements.
can't demand anything when the voters didn't turn out and we're the minority in all three branches of government.
That’s not true- these bills require a 60 vote majority to pass in the Senate. If they want appropriations bills, they need Democratic votes.
Concentration camps, a massive military, and Bezos' yacht. And social security, to be fair. For the moment anyway.
Vought is overthrowing our government. Anyone who believes as he does is a traitor. He should be our number one target for removal from government, criminal charges, and imprisonment.
They've already unconstitutional misspent the Congressional Budget allocated! Lock 'em up!!
MAKE NO MISTAKE VOUGHT……IS IN CHARGE IN THE WHITE HOUSE……TRUMP IS A FIGURE HEAD…….
ABSOLUTELY!
Will any putative replacement figure heads also bow down before Vought? It's Trump being so exceedingly flatterable and stupid (what we used to call retarded before the word was so grossly overused as to lose meaning) which is why it's possible. Would even Vance go along so blindly?
I know I've said it before but Parliament had Charles II's HEAD for less than this, over 500 years ago!
...They do like traditionalism. 😈
What's even WORSE is when the Supreme Court allows it to stand 🤷♂️
There truly is no one lower into Rump's filth (with the possible exception of Stephen Miller) than Vought. He is the living embodiment of the White Christian Nationalist filth. He is racist, anti Semitic and a misogynist all wrapped up in one. For him the actual Constitution is used toilet paper.
By “decorum” does Vought mean just agreeing to everything he says? And btw, someone should tell him that the “legislative branches understanding of its own authorities and powers” comes from reading the constitution. Maybe he should try it sometime!
Russ Vought is pure evil.
GOP has ruined checks & balances.
If they ever lose power....EVERY loophole MUST be closed. And Dems should do it with the same swiftness and unflinching allegiance that the Republicans have demonstrated. The time for Gentlemen's politics has ended..MAGA has revealed that our laws were NOT strong enough to prevent Fascism.
We the People must stop him!
He always looks like he’s just bitten the head off of a pigeon
Ozzy Osbourne is offended
Hey if they want to ignore the constitution to break the law we can ignore any pardon to cover for the lawbreaking
And there's a Hague across the pond.
Yet he's still only coming in at number 7 on the impeachment list.
Amen to THAT.
This is the guy who said we're Post-Constitutional. Repeatedly.
“not cowing to a legislative branch’s understanding of its own authorities and powers.” This line here deserves a spot against a pockmarked wall and a blindfold.
it's also illiterate. Kowtowing or cowering would make sense here.
Not as in conforming to the constitution of course. But he in fact is the one presuming to "cow" the Congress. If they ever got spines, they could forthwith impeach him.
I think we may be fucked, to be blunt.
#Resist this #Lawlessregime ALL the maga NEED TO BE ACCOUNTABLE #Jailtime maga Congress Crapped on the CONSTITUTION Hold them #accountable Prosecute Miller & ICE by #RICO #Impeach #arrest #prosecute #DemocracyMatters #DefeatRussia #SlavaUkraine @electiontruth.bsky.social #VerifyTheVote
That should say “pretends to think Congress is an advisory body…” He’s lying, profoundly stupid, or both, IMO
So far nothing has proven him wrong, sadly.
I think it’s bad this little twerp never had a real job and now is breaking people’s lives
Congress Republicans will go along with it because Trump will allocate to their projects they’ve taken bribes and donations on in their states and districts. Kind of like a crime family. 🤔
He'll promise to, but only actually will if he can once more outshine everyone else.
I would love for someone in media to do a deep dive into how people like Vought and Stephen Miller could eventually be charged with crimes for what they're doing now.
Assuming Democrats ever gain power again, they won't charge anyone with anything because they won't want to look "political".
We failed Reconstruction because of that kind of thing. We failed to protect the promise of the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act because of that kind of thing. We cannot fail again.
We failed more recently when we allowed Nixon to be pardoned, too.
The Democratic party is mostly composed of bought individuals who will protect the oligarchy rather than the people.
Every law podcast should be discussing this.
I hope I live long enough to see them both get charged and convicted
I'd be happy with either of them fleeing the country.
There are def other scenarios I’d be good with too
I’m waiting for the US equivalent to the Nuremberg trials, where the US Nazis face accountability. I’m confident it will happen, but the question is around how much death and destruction will precede it…. 🥺
I would love to have Vought’s head put in a vice.
Vought and Stephen Miller will spend the same amount of time in prison that Robert E. Lee spent in prison after the Civil War. Americans don't punish their elites.
There's a first time for everything, and we certainly live in unprecedented times.
I hope that's not true this time. We failed to properly punish the Confederates after the Civil War, and we failed to protect the promise of the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act after the '60s. We have to get it right this time.
Even more sad that the majority of Congress thinks so as well.
He has the Supreme Court in his pocket.
Vought is a buffet of awful thoughts. And it should be closed by the Board of Health.
/Chef’s Kiss phrasing! No notes!
Merci!
Why isn’t this guy being impeached weekly? Doesn’t make a lot of sense to me.
at least we can all take solace in the fact that any potential future democratic president will never use any of these expansive executive powers to do good things
Under this theory of the executive, the next Democratic president could and should unilaterally abolish ICE without going to Congress
I thought we had laws and constitutional provisions that were directly on point about this, but I'm not possessed of the scintillating intellect needed to sit on this nation's highest court.
you'd think even Congressional Republicans might want to impeach the occasional extremely obnoxious Trump official as an example, just out of basic self-respect
The problem is that those fuckers are chosen based on Trump's own personal approval of them, and he would thus take it as an attack on himself if they were to be impeached.
Vought is a Post-Constitutionalist
OMG
Article 1 of the Constitution establishes Congress, the Founding Fathers thought the legislative branch should make the laws/control the budget. Article 2 establishes the Executive to be coequal and support the will of the people as expressed by Congress, it does not allow a dictatorship/autocracy!
Laws are only as good as our mutual agreement to follow them. These people are lawless!
Hungary swamped their judicial system w pro-Orbán sycophants just like the Felon is doing to our judicial system now. This has allowed Orbán to rule as a dictator, just as F47 wants to do here in the US. ecfr.eu/publication/...
The construct of our Constitution does not allow the wholesale abrogation of our rights as described in it and all the Amendments. Denying due process is a further step toward a dictatorship. There is an approaching point where an autocracy is irreversible.
He’s got dead eyes
He’s almost as big a POS as Trump.
All so billionaires don’t have to pay taxes.
He doesn’t think the constitution is a set of recs. He thinks it is something worthy of scorn and lighting on fire. He’s said as much and put it all in writing.
The actual president of the trump admin… and he’s the actual 👹 as well
Maybe the CIA should give us all a hand then. Right now they're on Team Trump and that means they get the wall after the Truth and Reconciliation Commissions. They should try to avoid the wall.
that dude thinks he answers only to god, which is bad enough but what he thinks is god is no more than a matrix of prejudices installed in his head, so really we are all at the mercy of this one guy's really stupid, cruel assumptions about reality
Would make for an ok miniseries. Reality, not so much
The thing these Christian nationalist fucks fail to understand is that Jesus Christ was the biggest liberal of all.
He and Miller should be at the forefront of all discussions around the *goals* of this lawlessness. Trump's a distraction; these guys are the monsters trying to turn our country into a failed, theocratic ethnostate. Follow @jennycohn.bsky.social for good research on this: bsky.app/profile/jenn...
These are the kind of people unfit to manage even a bathroom key at the gas station. They will abuse every ounce of power they are given. What a f'ing mess.
I’m concerned that no one will stop him, since they sacked everyone with any authority.
Everyone needs to be afraid if this man. HR1 really expanded his power. If we manage to get the House back, the first thing that needs to happen is rolling back HR1. We are in really deep shit, especially with our corrupt SCOTUS.
Would you expect anything less from a major contributor to Project 2025?
Christian Nationalist Vought seems to think only his way is the right way. I’d like to ask him, ‘Who died and left YOU boss?’ He’s some ‘Christian’: he said he wanted fed employees to experience trauma. How vicious, cruel, & vile of him.
Vought is a very dangerous extremist.
And he has no clue what classic Christian scripture even tells about God.
Some knowledgeable cleric should really take Vought to task.
The president is a camel and congress is an arab in a tent to be pushed out, huh. Surely such a putative cabal cannot last forever.
Bet this authoritarian fucker would shit his diapers if the next President ignored the inevitable pardons that will be extended to him by Trump for the many laws he will have broken before he leaves this administration.
I concur.
Why do they all LOOK like Nazis?
I keep saying this. Beginning to think the answer might be the obvious one.
Vought truly scares me. Of the consuls Vought and Miller, Vought is the one with staying power.
📌
Oh, he’s an awful, awful person
Literally no one ran one “ ran and won on an agenda of a bipartisan appropriations process” because the appropriations process is not a policy, it’s the goddamn Constitution.
The GOP doesn't horse trade any more, like I've been saying over and over. The GOP trades in rabid zebras.
The Supreme Court appears to feel the same way about the Constitution.
I mean… at this moment in time with this Congress and this Supreme Court, he’s not wrong, at least in practice.
Oh jeez
THIS GUY is the fkr we need to make go away. He and the other authors of Project 2025 are the real problem. They are the ones pulling the strings and making Creamsicle Caligula look like he's in charge.
Russell Vought, architect of Project 2025 knows most of what he and DOGE are doing is unconstitutional/illegal and the courts have been largely against their actions. Except the Supreme Court, which swoops in and undermines lower courts. Right-wing SCOTUS are crooks. apnews.com/article/trum...
This is exactly it. He knows exactly what he's doing. It's been the plan for years, codified into Project 2025, and now they're going for the gusto. All P25 calls for is "trump or a trump-like figure" to keep the based distracted while they completely gut the country.
Miller and Vought, the evil duo making all the decisions
Fire this Christian Nationalist terrorist
"Bad" is putting it mildly. It's fucking insane, but totally what was expected from Vought. Thanks to the GOP senate, who are all in on ridding this country of democracy, we can expect things to get worse. Much worse.
These are not people who expect to leave office, ever.
So...is the process that the Congress passes a budget, and then the President comes back and ask them to cut more money...and then they vote to do it? Because that's still Congress. If they wanted to keep the money...they shouldn't have voted to remove it?
Your comment could not be more accurate - or perfectly put.
Action?
Vought and Miller really are cartoon villains...
Unfortunately so does SCOTUS...
Congressional republicans have no spine and Trump's administration will continue to treat them as such bulldozing all authority they have and we know the Trump administration has disregarded the Constitution as irrelevant to their agenda.
This guy lives the saddest little life. No wonder his wife left him.
We have a word for these people. It’s TRAITOR.
There are many words; you just picked a polite example.
Urinary Theory.
He has broken so many laws, he needs to be held accountable
He's not wrong. A shutdown mandates sending employees home, & gives great discretion over who to send home. It also would've hobbled the courts, where Trump was routinely losing. Schumer got dealt a shit hand. Voters put him in that situation by re-electing Trump, & electing GOP Cong. majorities.
A shutdown would have done that temporarily. The Continuing Resolution that Chuck Schumer secretly voted for, telling nobody beforehand and blindsiding his entire party, allowed Rs in Congress to gut government for a GENERATION. It was a stunning lapse of leadership, as even Pelosi said at the time.
When would the shutdown have ended? What date?
After the 2026 midterms - during which time mandatory programs would remain in effect. A chunk of those mandatory programs have now been defunded and scrapped. A shutdown into 2026 would have been preferable. Why else do you think every Democrat that’s actually on Appropriations was against the CR?
(Incidentally - 2026 is the far limit but it’s not likely. People on Appropriations - Rosa DeLauro and Patty Murray specifically - were in talks with Republican colleagues for a more limited resolution with some negotiated compromises. Schumer ignored them and torched their efforts. He’s no leader.)
Who decides what's "mandatory"? Do you think denying those programs funding during a shutdown would have, somehow, kept them open? What are you trying to say here? The CR kept funding at the status quo ante level. Anything that got defunded wasn't bc of the CR.
What you’re saying is that the Dems on Appropriations who were negotiating different deals are idiots who don’t know what they’re doing. And - sure, maybe you’re right. But: why did the literal leader of the Senate Dems flatly refuse to just talk to them? Why breeze past them and vote with the Rs?
No, you're putting words in my mouth. It's possible for them to have different considerations. That doesn't make one group of them idiots. It's also possible that new info came to light & that plans needed to change. Idk. You'd have to ask him.
You’re right, sorry; looking back, you were responding to my claim that a shutdown into 2026 would be preferable, not the alternate negotiations. Presently I’m just very worried the NY Dem caucus - Dem leadership in other words - will hand the Republicans a midterm victory the way they did in 2022.
"A shutdown would give them more people, so we decided to cut out the middle man and just hand it over."
Because he thinks God is in charge. As though we are all in their book club and believe in imaginary friends.
Whatever gawd this is, it isn't that of classic Christian scripture.
Yet another Christian prick.
May the vultures descend and pick his bones!
He thinks everyone who isn’t white/Christian/male is an adversary.
If they were to get his way and it were just White Christian Males, guys like Vought would quickly start restricting what classifies as white, what sects of Christianity are acceptable, and what is required to be considered a "real man".
Sigh. All I can say at this point is Fuck this guy. It's as ineffective as everything else but at least it makes me momentarily feel good.
Budget Director is his cover name….you mean the lead author, compiler and institutor of the Project 2025? Get the #Vought Out!
Definitely one of the big bads in Trump 2.0
Reminds me of that great line in Ghost Busters by Bill Murray. "Well, they really aren't rules, they are more like 'guidelines'."
It’s even worse that the Republicans in the House and Senate also view the Constitution as something that can be ignored.
He's the spider in the web of this administration. People keep saying it's Stephen Miller calling the shots. Nope, it's Russ Vought. He's controlling everything from the OMB. He's a theocratic zealot.
Incompetence is key in this administration.
IIRC he has a law degree. So no, he doesn't think that. He wants to change it.
the same russ vought that likes touching little boys?
He repeatedly states that he thinks the Impoundment Control Act is unconstitutional (in Project 2025, in his confirmation hearings, to his cat 😂 )
It’s disgusting. I can’t believe we have a whole party that doesn’t believe in our country or our constitution.
It’s like everything I know about fiscal law has been upended
Self-described post-Constitutionalist at work
Project 2025 - and SCOTUS agrees with it
Russell Vought. Architect of Project 2025.
As long as Congress is allowing it, that's how it will be.
Dems are going to have to force the GOP to nuke the filibuster on this one to keep the government open. There's no way you can vote for an appropriations bills when you know the GOP majority will just rubber-stamp rescission packages.
If he thinks laws are just suggestions, someone should take him up on it.
Epitome of understatement.
By Vought's understanding, we don't have to follow the orders put forth by the president. The Constitution dictates Trump is a president. Perhaps it's a recommendation. It appears, "we the people" have more authority than 435 Reps, 100 Senators, a president and VP. The majority rules. That's us.
Objection, your honor; assumes facts not in evidence. Suppose he knows this is all unconstitutional bullshit. He also knows the defense (impeachment from Congress) can't stop him, and the refs (SCOTUS) won't call the foul. Suppose he thinks "we're gonna run this play until you stop us".
That’s how it feels…they don’t expect to be stopped regardless of how lawless they are.
Very bad…
Russ Vought is a leading proponent/author of Project 2025. He said this. "We are in the process of the second American revolution, which will remain bloodless, if the left allows it to be." Just a reminder here of who this is, if needed.
It’s absolutely infuriating.
Mr. Vought is the real villain. He seems to get a vicarious thrill out of the cruelty meted out under Project 2025. Time to identify his kryptonite.
both vicarious and direct
More than bad - he’s a traitor.