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Steve Peers @stevepeers.bsky.social

If Ireland was as indifferent as you claim, why mention it at all? Never mind mention it several times, incorporation etc

sep 1, 2025, 3:52 pm • 7 0

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SpinningHugo @spinninghugo.bsky.social

The claim is not that the incorporation of the ECHR was not important. 5(b) is there for a reason. The claim is that people are sloppily not reading what 5(b) in the context of paragraph 5 actually says.

sep 1, 2025, 4:04 pm • 0 0 • view
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Colm O'Cinneide @colmocinneide.bsky.social

Indeed, you could argue that it was very sloppy of the UK not to include express provision for a unilateral ECHR exit - so sloppy in fact that it must be presumed not to have been intended, if you are applying @spinninghugo.bsky.social's arguments.

sep 1, 2025, 3:57 pm • 3 0 • view
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SpinningHugo @spinninghugo.bsky.social

Well, that of course is premised on the words "the UK undertakes to be a party to the ECHR" or equivalent, expressly or impliedly, appearing. 5(b), the important bit, doesn't say that. Nor does it say what GP claimed it does in the first post, or anything like it.

sep 1, 2025, 4:02 pm • 0 0 • view
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Conn MacEvilly @conmachiavel.bsky.social

I’m going to throw in a little googly here. The GFA is both an international treaty and an expression of the welter of still extant side-deals with paramilitaries. Binding the UK to the ECHR is *highly* important to some of them. Unilaterally breaching that obligation would be seen as perfidy.

sep 1, 2025, 5:43 pm • 0 0 • view