Agreed. These idiotic fools who call themselves dems & attack Newsom apparently learned NOTHING from the past. We can NOT be divided or we'll lose again. We MUST unify & back whoever becomes the nominee (including Newsom). Spitting on him serves no purpose other than to hand Repubs another victory.
CJ I think we all have a right to our opinion on a candidate - & I think Newsom is running - & I agree that toning down the attacks on our own is a really good idea. Trying to find common ground rather than just attacking might be the order of the day. "I agree here, disagree there" may be better?
1/ Okay, I overreacted with my 'idiotic fools' comment, for that I apologize. It happened cuz I said something Newsom, then shortly afterwards a progressive attacked me & said I was a 'sucker' for supporting him. Two wrongs don't make a right, and of course we all have a right to our own opinion...
I understand. No harm, not foul.
2/ but the reason I get so frustrated is because it seems there are many in our party who simply refuse to unify behind one candidate - no matter WHO it is. I've gotten into it with some of them on that other site over it. We did it with Joe, but we didn't do it with Hillary or Kamala. And we lost.
The thing I struggle with is separating the real from the not-real, the genuinely looking for interaction from the genuinely trolling shill. I've deleted my account 3x because I got so annoyed. It's hard. So frankly, I rarely try now and just say my say and try to be patient.
I appreciate your input. We're united in our disgust for Trump, but then we don't unite on election day. There are many millions of nonvoters that could've made a difference, but instead they did nothing. Trump voters, if nothing else, are very unified. That should be a call to all of us for unity.
That would indeed be smart.
Ultimately I will vote for ANY CANDIDATE who becomes the democratic nominee. I challenge others in our party to the same. Why? Thanks to Trump, women in many states have lost the right to choose. Now we're losing Medicaid & food aid. Immigrants are being terrorized. And all because we didn't unify.
I dont want to be a party of lemmings like the GOP, but I think the lack of loyalty shown to Biden was a massive turn off. I voted for Harris, dont get me wrong, but I found that whole thing was grotesque. I dont think that is why we lost, btw. I think it's more complex. Bye & TY for chat
I understand. 'Lemmings' puts a negative spin on unity, I don't really agree with that charaterization. I do respect our diversity, and during the primaries absolutely everyone should support who they believe is the best. After that, we need unity, or we will lose every time. Thanks for the chat.
The reference I made to lemmings is regarding the GOP members who follow whatever they are told to without thinking abut it. It's my team on the field kind of mentality, as opposed to what is good for the country at large. That isnt unity, that's brain wash. Really have to go open my new 📖 Bye 😀👋
Fair enough. Take care.
I know time has passed this by, but I feel a need to say.. The Democrats or Democrat-adjacent who attack Democrats because they say something they don't agree with are victims of the radicalization process too.. We're all human, we're all susceptible to the same psychological realities.
This baffles me . We're pro diversity but then refuse to work w/ diversity in our own party? That D's "too old, too liberal,too soft spoken, took a position/contribution I don't like."Disagree,yes &never follow the lawless&unethical as do the magas. But let's *llve* our values. We might even win.
I dont think that is what he means - he is talking about, I think, the trashing of a Democrat who is fighting back because they want a different candidate...usually someone with zero chance to win (&do some good). I long ago gave up on anonymous posters trash talking their own (supposedly) party ⛔
In other words, we have to win and to do so means finding common ground and bing adult about it, AND muting anonymous sht spewers.
Exactly. I think it’s referred to as adulting Maybe we don’t 100% agree but if we amongst ourselves try to meet in the middle,we can survive to vote another day Gaining rights is a long and tedious process. There will be back and forth. We are now closer to losing gay marriage, women voting, etc..
Aaahh, yes! "Adulting"- that word is like music to my ears-& haven't heard it in too long.
EXACTLY
Let me clarify. If we don't all unify behind one candidate (something the Trump supporters do, and by doing so they've been winning) WE WILL LOSE. It's really that simple. If everybody in our party picks different candidates, we're screwed. That's it.