unless they're trans, in which case fuck em they don't need rights, right?
unless they're trans, in which case fuck em they don't need rights, right?
I am truly confused by this statement. I was moved when Newsom signed sweeping legislation to protect trans people, their families, and their rights. What did he do or say that I missed that indicated he doesn't think trans people need rights? I would like to know. calmatters.org/newsletter/t...
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He said in a podcast appearance that trans people shouldn’t be able to make their decision to transition before the age of 25, this would be disastrous given puberty would be done by then.
Thank you for responding to my question with calmness and a desire to help me understand. I googled "did Newsom say people shouldn't be able to make their decision to transition until they are 25" and could find nothing. If you have the time to direct me to a link, I would appreciate it. 1/2
Here is the podcast I’m refereeing to youtu.be/5BBq3Q_fHSU, it’s at 2:58:00. You can watch the whole segment if you like, it’s pretty much a “both sides” all the way.
Thank you so much for taking the time to find this for me. I appreciate it. Getting ready to listen, now.
I queried ChatGPT and read this about whether or not Newsom said age 25…
Asking ChatGPT is not research especially since it’s source material is potentially years old. Here is the podcast the timestamp is 2:58:00 youtu.be/5BBq3Q_fHSU
I know ChatGPT isn’t the final word, but in doing research I find it helpful and it can lead to other sources.
I agree that it’s helpful, I am saying it’s the least reliable with new out information and stuff that is not directly indexed in news articles.
It’s not reliable. When I need a quick answer I go there first and then find reliable sources. It’s the only way.
I do the same. It’s great for spell checking! 🤷♀️
That’s a great idea!
Agree! I fact check more than one source, and I’ve not found ChatGPT to be wrong yet.
I did my genealogy research on Ancestry and hit a road block. So I decided to give ChatGPT a try and OMG! It was one of the most amazing things that’s ever happened to me. ChatGPT helped me uncover a major family secret.
Wow!
he's also said multiple times that it's "unfair" for trans athletes to compete against others of their gender.
Tbh I don’t think I can win on the sports issue.
maybe not but personally I don't particularly care because my morals don't depend on what will help a democrat win an election
People responded to one thing he said and decided he hates trans people, rather than trying to send Newsom information to help him take a better position of support. Same thing happened with Kamala Harris and some of her statements.
politotions dont change, they justy oie about it. After biden people know that
Obama and Biden both changed their positions on first same sex marriage and then trans rights. Neither of these have been around d very long and it wasn’t a republican.
Biden changed his position on LGBTQ rights. Hell, BUSH even changed his position on that. It takes pressure, work, and hard, proven facts. Constantly.
They lied. and biden is still a racist too
Then all I can think is you never grew up and changed your mind about anything either. George Carlin said it best when he said that politicians don’t come out of nowhere. They come from the public. Maybe the problem is the public sucks.
whatever, hes still a bamned racist he stil thinks anything woke is just a bunch of malarke and screw demicrats forthroweing tat racist murdirous nazi in our face
Obama was against LGBT rights once as well, and made a lot of terrible choices. You think Obama, the person who put all those protections in that Trump is reversing, the one who advocated for immigration… didn’t change his position on things?
I dont think he changed, just made concessions. would you become a racist if you got into office and found out the people were racist?
And if you don’t believe people can change, you are still mentally a child. I used to be anti-LGBT, and grew up with racist tendencies. Now, I’ve come out as nonbinary, immigrated to a foreign country, and live a much better life overall. But that takes work.
We can guide ignorance from a lack of knowledge. We can’t solve the problem of people who decide to be ignorant solely so they can go on hating people they don’t agree with.
This is wisdom. Thank you for responding with calmness and facts.
Don’t get me wrong though. Newsom has had a lot of issues. I can understand why people don’t like him. But I wish we could have a discussion with the current politicians to help them see where they are wrong.
Be careful here, Music. I got called a few names on here earlier tonight for not hating Governor Newsom. ☮️
You should’ve the hate I got! OMG you woulda thought I killed someone with the trash they tossed at me.
Gavin Newsom said that it was better to "find common ground ( on the trans issue) with conservatives" then fight for us. Yeah, I'd say your morals might be a bit fucky if you're a progressive but allow that.
Since you're not actively crashing out and posting "gender critical" talking points, I'll try to give the reasons with citations. On March 6th, he had a get together with Charlie Kirk - not a great guy - and said "I'm not wrestling with the fairness issue (in relation to trans athletes) 🧵
He said multiple times during that interview and later ones, as early as last month on the 23rd that "The most damaging thing to Harris' campaign was her support of (trans people)" and when talking on Trump's ad he said: “Then you had the video as a validator. Brutal,” 🧵
He's said one of his inspirations is Bill Maher and how he "Finds common ground with conservatives... especially on the trans issue." (Cited Feburary 28th 2025) In May he slashes 17 million from LBTQ+ women and non-binary health care programs. Saying "some need to sacrifice for the budget" 🧵
There's a ton of little things, like purposefully calling a gay man a woman and telling him to "cut it off already" over on Twitter. While I don't care for Scott Presler, this is kinda fucked up. There's a lot of indicators that if someone told him he could get 1% in the vote, he'd sell us out.
I just googled and could find no link to him saying anything on twitter telling Scott Presler "to cut if off already." Could you direct me to that quote. It is horrible if he said it. I am no Newsom fan girl. I lived in Cali for years. But that just shocks me that he would say that.
Wait, hold up I was going to slep but- You read the rest of that and went "Yeah this is fine" and it just the "cut off your dick" thing that upset you? I wanna be clear that the rest was like "Yeah, this kosher"
Oh no absolutely not. That was just the first thing I looked up. I can see how it looked that way. But that is not at all what I meant.
Gotcha Yeah, it came across as "Well, the rest of this is fine." Understand that right now, a rather large account is going full terf - like reposting "biological essentialism" - because trans people don't like Newsom for the above, so the nest has kinda been kicked. Best of luck Thank you
I don't have a twitter account anymore but let me see what I can do in the morning. I dragged that one from a news article intermixed with like 5 others about the incident - also apparently he kept calling Scott Nancy Mace? Idk that's the more fucked up part.
Thank you for having this conversation with me. I am going to research the information you have taken the time to give me. I appreciate that you took the time. It is so fucked up that we have to fight for any human beings right to peacefully exist and simply be in this world. Peace.
Government. Newsom sole "sin" is he believes Trans competing in women's sports isn't a fair playing field. With this one exception, he has been supportive of the LBGTQ community. Governor Newsom Signs Legislation Supporting LGBTQ+ Californians | Governor of California share.google/0zI0DgEbfWCp...
This is what I don’t get. We are in an authoritarian occupation. I understand Newsom has not been completely aligned with trans rights, although IMO it’s political posturing, but regardless this has nothing to do w/2028 right now. We are at a moment where we knock fascism straight on its face…
…or we succumb to full blown dictatorship and lose our democracy. The fight is now, not 2028. And I don’t see too many people really going toe-to-toe with this regime besides Gavin. So who’s going to step up? If this regime continues, there will be no LGTBQ+ existence.
If you don’t like Newsom, then don’t vote for him in the primaries. But I think it’s ok to root for the guy who’s not trying to destroy country over the guy who is. Geezus fucking Christ, just ask the Gaza holdouts. How well did that work out for them?
save me the crocodile tears you fuckaas bitch.