I have many friends and family with medical training. It’s hilarious that a medical coder thinks they have medical expertise about vaccines.

Taking a look at her X account, I see she has thoughts on other matters, as well

I kinda suspected, but decided not to pursue that line of research.

Inexplicably, Community Notes is still functioning to some extent.

Y'all, this is 18 months old. I'm going to leave it up because it's nice that OOP got smacked, but I have no idea if CN still works now.

@numb.comfortab.ly These people probably also refuse to by life insurance or write a will, thinking they can wait until they know they are going to die.

My car has run fine as long as I’ve had it! Why should I bother paying for oil changes?

Just like Bill Maher, who thinks Y2K was overhyped - completely overlooking the fact that engineers and programmers worked for years to prevent a crisis.

I used to think it was bullshit early internet conspiracy nonsense but I was amazed to find out it actually could have happened.

Yes, but.

Good grief

Wow.

Yikes.

“People who have umbrellas don’t get wet when it’s raining, therefore, they don’t need umbrellas. I am very smart.”

Could it be that's because we have been vaccinatiing people against those diseases and that the second you stop vaccinating people those diseases will come right back... See Texas & Measles...

I was a medical coder for 20+ years and I saw plenty of coding for vaccines which, as anyone with functioning brain cells knows, prevents measles, mumps, tuberculosis, diphtheria, rubella, and pertussis.

"I have been a medical doctor for 10+ years. I have never seen a critical medical equipment to have a software crash. Those unit tests have no need to be done."

Yet so far

I used to work in a children's hospital and encountered several children too young to be vaccinated that had gotten whooping cough. The sound they make coughing is haunting.

"Your blood oxygen levels look good, now. I don't see why you need to keep breathing..."

HA!

"I clearly don't need this as I'm not wet" he said as he put the umbrella away while standing in the rain...

Holy Hell.🤦🏻‍♀️

It's like playing a really deadly game of charades with an alien fresh off the spaceship.

yeah, if any technology was ever a victim of its own success, it's vaccines. nuts.

"Preventative medicine is working. Do we need it?"

"The millennium bug didn't happen. Was there any reason to fix it?"

@badmedicaltakes.bsky.social

JFC some folks are just to dumb. Covid did not cull the herd. They persist.

learn to code, but crucially, also learn other things as well

Omg

I volunteer at my local library and I've never seen a person check out a book in Vietnamese, and so I conclude this language has no reason to exist

So dumbfoundingly stupid.

Do you any medical coders working in morgues.

This was posted a year ago. Now reposted. The original poster is not on this site.

This has got to be a joke. There’s no way they actually believe what they’re saying

I've seen actual medical doctors who were antivaxxers.

That’s crazy

And way more nurses than you’d believe, too. 😢

These people can't be this fukin stupid, can they

“Guys ever since we put more armor on these plane engines, planes stopped getting shot down. I don’t see why we should armor those components.”

@numb.comfortab.ly Very old comment, probably the person which wrote it on Xitter is dead by now. Measle infections can be quite bad...😁

My university actually did have a mumps outbreak in the basketball team! 2018. They did a free MMR clinic for every student. Not sure what percentage of the student population got updated but hey, the outbreak was contained one way or another.

Had a former corporate boss like this person when I was still in retail. He insisted we take the high risk product out of lockup because the theft of it was so low. Because it was, you know, locked up. Thank god he wasn't in charge of the pharmacy decisions.

I brought my umbrella with me on a rainy day, but as it turns out I didn’t even get wet, ergo umbrellas are useless 🤷‍♀️

I used this sturdy umbrella during the downpour but I didn’t even get wet so I guess I’ll throw it out

head.....desk

People made such a fuss about smallpox and then it fell out of the hype cycle and nobody seems to care anymore

Who knew that a 2 year degree made you an MD? Her job is data entry we should definitely listen to her.

IKR? Medical coder = expert on medical conditions 😂

Should be fired for cause

This is written by a bot or a troll. It’s not even written in proper English.

My child got the measles nearly twenty years ago and it took three doctors before one recognized it. The younger doctors kept telling me it couldn’t be measles. It’s just not an issue here anymore. Finally I saw an older doc at the ER who immediately was like, “That’s measles!”

I knew it was the measles with the first two docs. It matched everything on the poster on the back of the office door. Even after the ER confirmed it was measles the younger doc was like, “Nope. Just can’t be.” Long story short - younger doctors may have seen it and just don’t know it.

My child got it at 11 months old. The vaccine schedule at the time had the first MMR vaccine at 1 year.

How can anyone work in healthcare without coming across an active or latent TB case?

They're also a Trumper and a Buffs fan, so...

It’s bad enough that I have non-medical people second guessing what my doctor says I need for my medical care, now I have got a person doing data entry work telling diabetics they should just take cinnamon, don’t worry about getting a Covid/flu vaccine and you don’t need a mask.

While I am fighting with a DME provider to ship supplies, fight with non-diabetic over med that they have no reason to take and now causing an outage because of dumb influencers and then fight the pharmacy over the cost of med. Yes I need another non med person getting in my way of staying alive.

Apparently this tweet used to have community notes, but they have been removed. x.com/bjamngirlAA/...

But medical coders are medical experts, right? 🤦‍♀️

i can see them...

“I’m a medical coder”

Do be fair I've seen some medical doctors turned rabid antivaxxers too.

Much more than we’d like. Professional societies and boards need to take a hard line on this stuff.

Right up there next to bsky.app/profile/gold...

It’s the same story with acid rain. “Ooo, what happened with that ‘acid rain’ scare that happened in the 70’s and 80’s??” Uh, international accords requiring sulfur dioxide scrubbers on fossil fuel-burning plants, emissions standards for vehicles, and ultra low sulfur for road diesel fixed it…?

Oh you mean the WOKE accords from the SHADOW UN

Pour one out for the y2k bug while you’re at it.

Oh yeah. "There was such a fuss about Y2K, and in the end nothing happened." "Well fuck, you" - me after speedrunning updating decades old software to support 4-digit year instead of 2.

I remember. Was not a fun time to be a community college IT tech. Thankfully I was still classified as a student worker. I was grateful for a couple weeks off from that mess and just having to worry about my other job (I was also a line cook.) myferretsatepepethefrog.blogspot.com/2020/04/the-...

I appreciate you 🫶🏻 Love, Gen Xer

We appreciate you.

My Dad worked a lot of weekends in 1999 testing all that for NASDAQ.

SAP ERP was a big winner from the Y2K fear - large companies swapped out all their systems for one integrated system (already Y2K ready) - gave SAP a huge boost into the market.

I also credit clinton's booming economy with the gazillion$$ spent on y2k preparedness.

Wait THAT’s why we all have to deal with the hell that is SAP?!?

Yup. SAP's brilliant packaging of y2k - compliant database + complete set of apps outsold all the other better engineered standalone database systems. Sad. I loved sybase.

1999: Worked in tech at a telecommunications company. Friends and family: "Y2K was a hoax" Me: "I will kill you all"

I worked in unix ops at a telco, and even there my coworkers were like "y-2-OKAY" for the next year. They had every opportunity to see the amount of work that went into it. Bunch of knobs.

I get the sentiment but Y2K paid off my student loans.

I was telco-adjacent in those days - and the screaming "it was a hoax for the [software industrial complex]" can still be heard. "Because we spent $500 billion to prevent it" is not the flex I thought it was.

😭

I worked at Depository Trust Company (electronic custodian of trillions of dollars) in 1997, to proofread their Y2K preparation documents. They put *a ton* of resources into this thing. Odd behavior if it was a hoax.

I spent January of 2000 cleaning up mangled data for a client who converted their data to non-character string dates, but didn’t update their modified software to use the new date format. This mangled receipt & other dates to nonsense dates like Jan 5, 24 CE when Jeshua Ben Yusuf was a carpenter

🤣

There’s a book I’ve been meaning to get to someday about this exact problem, where people don’t listen to experts warning of oncoming catastrophe, and I remember an interview w one of the authors pointing to y2k as something people cite for ignoring warnings bc they don’t know how close it was

📌

This book was really good and really terrifying.

We should start moving all timestamps back to 32 bits in preparation for 2038. We will save lots of memory and people will be able have more Chrome tabs open! And then on January 20th say "Sorry, I'm taking the week off for MLK day, I'll fix your shit when I get back."

I'm hoping there's a ton of code out there still with this problem (and no source, I guess that's less likely). It'll be just right for me to get some sweet, sweet retirement time consulting.

I'm wondering about embedded devices myself. 😧

Related/unrelated to some of your other mentions, but as a 13 year old I read a fictional account of a group of hackers single handedly patching all of the critical infrastructure before Y2K hit (while being perused as terrorists of course) and I have appreciated a group of fictional nerds more.

YUP I was hired at a health insurance claims administrator in April of 1999 to bring them out of the stone age, and I have 7 months to do it.

I had a client back then that was being all kinds of awful but terrified of y2k I knew the one place it mattered I fixed that - it would have stopped water testing But then I wrote a program to open every program file (db stuff) and just added a header that it was y2k verified and billed for all

Good thinking 😂

yep. my husband was also involved in Y2K remediation.

Any sufficiently successful mitigation strategy looks like a panic to a layperson.

Brilliant analysis of human nature.

My dad was a programmer he was working like a freaking madman making changes to existing programs all over the fucking United States for Banks, the military and a few other organizations for the two years leading up to y2k 80+ weeks were short weeks. It was insane.

Most of the fixes weren't even that, they just changed the windowing of it to be 1920-2020. Tho we didn't hear much about that in the news. It was a fascinating phenomena to see most of the 'fixes' were just a quick bodge. www.hpcwire.com/1999/03/19/c...

I worked on a bunch of old COBOL back then. We mostly did the exact shift you mentioned. In a few cases we did rewrite things to accept a four digit year but that required a lot of additional changes across the process and on the backend data, so was the exception.

lol in my case I basically rewrote ours. Original one was running on a mainframe, and there was no way in hell I'd learn its inner working in time. So I just rewrote it for PC.

Yeah this pushed a bunch of panicky projects over the deployment line. Bank systems were flaky as hell for the next couple years and we all just shrugged and raised an eyebrow

I worked at a place that wrote COBOL, it was really fun learning about the history. They had coincidentally rewrote their date processing system in C for performance (lots of date calculations and comparisons due to billing) and completely side-stepped the issue.

It's 1999, COBOL guy makes a killing consulting on Y2K coding. Panics. Decides he'll go into cryostasis to avoid fallout from the transition. Wakes up in a medical suite. Friendly staff welcome him back. "Wow. How'd it go? Is it 2001?" "Afraid not. It's 2999 and we understand you know some COBOL."

2038 is coming down fast.

Now, this is a neat solution! Heh, proto-microservice.

It was more like using a library. I was impressed to see that you could get the compiler to just link in C object files. Its a lot like how some of the number handling libraries in python just use a c program underneath for speed.

"this microservice could be a library" 😇

Not just the number crunching libraries. A huge chunk of the underlying framework for the official release of Python is Cython bindings.

This is of course one of the reasons why most COBOL isn't portable. Every compiler vendor has their own method to do it. I personally like gnuCOBOL's, tho it isn't well documented. IBM's looked gnarly but more idiomatic. Microfocus was extremely terse and unintuitive.

Acid Rain, Ozone layer, Y2K...all overblown by the media and resolved themselves without intervention, just like Covid and Climate change eventually will...

Chattel slavery, leaded gasoline, The Mighty Mighty Bosstones,

Still have acid rain, no more freon, most companies rewrote their software pre 2k.

Frankly, if there were VMs and sandbox deployers at the degree we have now, I'm sure widespread simple demos of "Look, here's what this old code would've been doing to your precious database" would've changed minds right the hell quick

Time to start planning for the Unix 2038 bug fixes.

Yeah. A good friend was a retired programmer. Quadrupled his retirement funds traveling all over the country fixing code for Y2K.

I love that one. Though not as much as all those old Cobol programers

Can't wait for the brake dust kerfuffle (fuck cars)

Another one people now have no clue about: lead in gasoline. Everyone in the world now has unleaded gas but it took a lot of convincing its presence was a bad thing for everyone and definitely not worth the minor benefits it provided (reducing engine knock) ourworldindata.org/leaded-gasol...

Saw something similar about how Y2K was overblown by someone was maybe 10-12 years old when companies spent millions mitigating the effects of a decision to store the year as two digits in payroll/pension databases. Do a little reading…

I was one of the programmers who worked on that. I was terrified on New Year’s Eve about what might happen. It was such relief when everything was ok.

Same. We didn't have a building sized generator for our datacenter so we shut down everything for an hour and a half just to make sure we didn't get forced down the hard way.

I worked 3 hours of overtime that night in case it all went to hell. It was rather anticlimactic.

What I remember was not the anticlimax, but the relaxation from no climax. Admittedly not the usual path of a drama, but maybe it was a sign that this millennium would be fully postmodern.

yeah, I was sitting on a conference call with a lot of my co-workers hoping that nothing fell over as midnight arrived across all the world's time zones (I worked for an outfit that spanned all of them). It all worked…

I was especially happy when Sydney stayed up. Whew.

Or, or, or Donald Trump personally sealed the ozone by himself in another of his pre-presidency selfless acts

"The atmosphere would not be doing this kind of thing if I were president"

He seals it himself most days. That's what the orange does, it keeps the hole sealed. It is not a benevolent act, but a threat; he controls the ozone layer, not us. Every time his pale visage remains uncovered it is a reminder of the horrors he keeps locked away. And could release at any time.

No scurvy either. Vitamin C is a scam.

It's too bad we don't have a way to ask "What does the D in TDAP stand for?" without even having to talk to another person. Why won't someone create an engine with which to search for these kinds of answers? There must be a googol's worth of questions that could be answered!

Good for her. I am a medical coder/biller for 23 years and was a nursing assistant starting when I was 17. I hadn't seen these diseases for 30+ years. I had only seen chicken pox after non-vaxxing parents had pox parties. I am seeing measles in TX and PA now. Vaccines save lives.

I saw chickenpox prior to vaccines, on my and my brother's bodies when I was 5 and measles on my own when I was 7. Well over 30 years ago.

fuuuuck

They live amongst us…

This has to be satire, right? Please 🥺

In a functioning system her license to practice medicine would be taken away based on that tweet alone.

This hurt my eyes

unfathomable stupidity

Sometimes I think those people should be put in an alternate reality where vaccines don't exist, just so they could go through natural selection. But then I feel extremely bad for thinking that way. Then I read their anti-vax messages again and the cycle repeats.

I feel the same way as her but about sewage

No clue. And medical coder isn’t a medical job, it’s data paper pushing.

My spouse: “If they turned around they’d see the point.”

We don't need vaccines ... because of vaccines 🤦‍♂️

That hurts to read, the ignorance is so strong.

Watched a short Chappelle clip where he said he’s not inoculating his kids for measles “some old ass disease”

That dude is going to get people killed

Possibly starting with his kids

Even on the rare chance they do get measels they're riche enoug they can get top flight medical care and it'll be "not even that bad" of a disease instead.

True, but medical care for measles is mostly palliative and symptomatic treatment, there is no cure and it kills, no child should be intentionally exposed to absurd risks, there are enough dangers in ordinary, rational, loving life to go around

I understand jellyfish are also able to exist without a brain.

It's like people going off of medication they still need because they feel better.

If she gets all the way to smallpox she'll have landed on a good point.

Sometimes I have to wonder why sharing the earth with these people has to be a thing

is she really this stupid or just trolling?

🤔

We literally just had a baby with pertussis with a prolapsed rectum and broken ribs in the icu from rich parents who also had pertussis and told us they were concerned about autism.

I've never seen a leopard insided the anti-leopard shield! Why are we still using it! /s

Legit.

I also work in healthcare. They are out there. Some of them have college degrees(!). Some of them touch you when you go in for a visit. It's like everything they learned about the "health" in healthcare just evaporated because MAGA.

Sometimes I fell as if so many of our problems stem from a loss of collective memory concerning a specific topic.

dense as a fruitcake and three times as stupid

Sooooooo close to getting it.

Throwing away the umbrella in a rain storm because you’re not getting wet

She cannot possibly be that stupid

Observation: crux of this argument is a “medical coder” claiming their experience as equivalent to a scientific understanding of infectious diseases.

Hey! My umbrella is keeping me dry, so I don’t need it anymore.

Darwin...

Incredible. People like this have to remember not to look up during a rainstorm, or they will drown.

Too bad so many of them do, in fact, remember.

…to being full-on village idiots.

The Bear Patrol must be working like a charm. www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSVq...

Technically that's the opposite fallacy. They're Lisa in that scene, claiming the vaccines are a spurious tiger-preventing rock, and that the real reason we don't get measles is because there's no danger of getting it in the first place.

You are correct, but I like that scene.

the “i don’t have hypertension because i take hypertension meds every day” logic that i get to hear almost daily is undefeated

Oh my gawd. Reason ppl not getting sick is due to ... VACCINATIONS!! OMG. Such fools! Our educational system is seriously deranged. Simple thinking is elusive for far too many. OMG.

honestly I feel these dumb motherfuckers say this shit out of the need for outrage responses just to see who they can rile at this point

I don't know, this one looks like she sincerely believes what she is saying, and doesn't see the flaw in her logic.

Just recently, I heard a vet, on BSky, explain that she *regularly* has to explain to pet owners that not all cats are girls and not all dogs are boys. Ever since, I think about this when wondering: 'How stupid could a person possibly be?' Very stupid, it seems. Very, very stupid.

Now I'm wondering if they think (girl) cats and (boy) dogs mate to produce mixed litters of puppies and kittens.

HA!

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This played in my head also

Oh God I hear the autotune.

strong “pee is stored in the balls” energy

I’ve taught. I’m well aware.

eeee.

Also..."I'm a medical coder." I mean, I (briefly) worked in a coding-adjacent data entry job. Didn't mean I knew jack about health care.

But isn't that just word recognition? See the word "measles" and copy it into a set? And isn't that the beginning for Artificial Intelligence? Or recognize that you HAVEN'T seen that word? But don't sort for "spots" and mix measles with leopards?

If I recall (it was nearly 20 years ago), it's more about making sure the code on treatment documentation matches something the insurance company is willing to pay for. None of it had anything to do with directly understanding the patient's health (no one should entrust me with their care! 🙂).

Thank you Bitter.

When I was researching vaccines one thing that came up was that pertussis doesn't get diagnosed often because doctors often assume it can't be in a vaccinated kid. Concerning.

this is amazing.

My son, who was of course vaccinated, got pertussis twice as a teenager because the vaccine only provides about 60 % protection.

That's a great point, vaccines aren't perfect. Some otherwise healthy people get unlucky and don't get immunity from a routine vax.

I only got the first MMR as an infant because I had a bad reaction and the pediatrician recommended not getting the full course. Got tested when joining the military, turns out I had antibodies for mumps but not for measles or rubella. All good, I got the adult MMR vax and that was fine.

At some point I misplaced my vax records, so I got a full antibody panel to enroll in university... and still had no measles antibodies. So I got another measles shot. A year later I got another test out of curiosity... still no measles antibodies, so I got a one-time adult shot for the 3rd time!

I was in that age group that got the first measles vaccines that weren't as effective, so I was revaccinated as a teenager. I think. They had to redo something, and it was drama because I fainted afterwards.

Then I may have been vaccinated when they took out my spleen as part of cancer treatments a few years later (they had to redo some, because the spleen is long-term storage for the immune system's memory cells).

Then I had to provide proof of immunity to enter my sister's dorm room because of an outbreak of mumps; they couldn't find the paper records in time so I had a shot again. Don't know if it was MMR or just mumps.

Then when I was planning on getting pregnant, they weren't sure whether I was still immune to rubella, so I was vaccinated again, once again, I don't know if it was MMR or rubella only.

I may have been vaccinated just in childhood with a questionably effective batch, or up to four times! Thank goodness the doctor did an antibody test last month, and yes, I'm immune.

Since I'm not actually supposed to get live-virus vaccines (like measles) if there's any way to avoid it, it's a relief!

That's enough to stop it spreading to more than a few people before it just runs out of luck and dies out. That is, IF everyone the virus might spread to is vaccinated!

Pertussis used to be rare. But if enough people don't bother getting vaccinated, that rare case that comes along can start a local epidemic. When it does, as happens now, everyone is at risk!

For babies, who have small airways, that risk turns into danger. The irritation and swelling that causes the characteristic "whoop" in young children can get bad, very bad, and even kill them.

The solution is to vaccinate the community so that family members don't pass the germ on to babies.

If you're thinking my son had gotten pertussis back in the dark ages, this was less than ten years ago. Both times he lost a season of competition in his sport and a lot of school. Antibiotics clear the infection, but the lung symptoms continue for several weeks.

Where it's dangerous is when people with small airways get whooping

I was vaccinated with everything you could get as a child born in 1971, and I got pertussis when I was about 11. I wasn't sick enough to need hospital treatment, but I still have vivid memories of what it felt like, and an enduring hatred for the taste of sweet cough syrups.

Even best case it's a horrible illness, even if you're old enough for it not to be dangerous. You sleep for a few minutes and then that violent cough yanks you awake again (and your parents, too!). And this goes on for weeks and weeks after the infection has cleared.

I have vivid memories of mucus literally pouring out of me as I coughed uncontrollably.

@badmedicaltakes.bsky.social

“If we don’t test for Covid, the numbers will go down.”

Gov. DeSantis has been heard from.

MC is so close to MD, just one letter off so it must be just as good knowledge

Thankfully not of all us coders are this dense

It's almost as if...

O. M. G. 💁🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️💁🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️💁🏻‍♀️💁🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

A medical coder for over ten years? Maybe she should head HHS.

another one for @badmedicaltakes.bsky.social .

Hey, if that logic is good enough for John Roberts to question the need for the Voting Rights Act, surely the ladies in the billing department can use it too.

omfg he really said this?

Here's an article with a couple of excerpts to illustrate. time.com/5890983/ruth...

So basically Roberts said racism was eradicated in the United States. Figures.

Many justices are saying this these days.

Well he has a black friend named Clarence who told him racism wasn’t an issue anymore.

I think he also mentioned or introduced this notion of "equal state sovereignty", suggesting that it was unfair to subject certain jurisdictions to a federal preclearance requirement. Not sure whose arse he pulled that from.

I don't have a direct quote, but that's my recollection of Shelby County v. Holder from 10 years ago. I think RBG gave a good response, but I'd have to look to confirm.

constitutioncenter.org/the-constitu...

I miss the time 5 minutes ago when I hadn't read that.

Definitely take my medical advice from the folks in the billing department

Take it from me. A guy with the world's most evil job.

I watched Scrubs a few times and filed an insurance claim with the wrong company every week for the last year so I'm practically an epidemiologist.

I do know people who have gotten pertussis; immunity wanes, people need boosters.

I'm gonna guess she works for, like, an ophthalmologist or other specialist who never ever sees infectious disease patients.

I do some medical billing in my job, and can tell you she's a dipshit. But, I also have a degree in genetic engineering, so maybe that helps me. 🤣 still don't think I should offer much medical advice beyond vax is good, talk to your Dr

I’ve been medical coding for 17 years and I’ve coded measles, mumps, active syphilis, and a shit-ton of post-polio

just out of curiosity, ever code leprosy? as I recall, when I was a candystriper in a hospital histology lab, we had a tissue sample in case we needed it for comparison.

Not yet but I expect Bobby Junior and his worm will make it great again soon enough

Yep. We see post-polio patients. It's still a valid ICD-10.

It has a fairly solid age floor, though. Almost like something came along and stopped almost everyone from getting polio, at just about the same time everywhere. Wonder what that was, huh.

Mysterious

🤔

I worked in medical billing a bit almost fifteen years ago and to be fair it would have driven me insane as that person seems to be. Truly the underbelly of health care delivery.

I think the underbelly of healthcare is the insurance industry, not those who try to get paid for services that are allegedly covered. It is super frustrating to have to jump through multiple hoops to just get paid for what they said they'd cover in the first place. She's willfully ignorant.

Oh yes, the amount of activity (and # of people) my employer engaged in, from printing claims for payers that ignored electronic submissions, to tracking reimbursement rates by code/by insurer, to provider network nonsense—the effort just to get paid was huge and represented tremendous overhead.

I keep trying to tell them to run a costs/benefits on accepting insurance, especially the more difficult ones. I'd bet a paycheck it's pretty even

Definitely worth considering from a provider standpoint, not so sure from a patient standpoint.

And so I can only assume that prolonged exposure to that environment has caused the poor dear to lose the capability for rational judgement.

Nope. That is willful ignorance. Not stress or exhaustion. Facts are not rational or irrational. You want to place a bet regarding what her social media is full of?

I prefer to be patronizing and condescending in the face of obvious idiocy.

I mean, why not mock someone who has so blatantly, publicly confused cause and effect? Dumb people should be laughed at.

But it's time to finish loading the car. Have a safe and fun last weekend of 2023.

considering how many medical treatment decisions are implicitly made by billing departments; yes.

I find it's best to get most of your medical advice instead from people on social media who claim to be doctors and use loveable muppets as their avatar.

"In the 20 years since Mad Dog McGurk went to prison there have been no mad dog killings. It's time to let poor Mad Dog McGurk go free."

I had breakfast this morning, why should I still need to eat food?🙄

Medical coder doesn't require insight, apparently 🤦🏻‍♀️

Lurking on Twitter is like swimming in sewage.

Omg I'm a medical coder of 10 yrs and this makes me furious and hopeless... she has learned nothing

Could have been on the Supreme Court with that attitude when they killed part of the VRA. It's working don't need the act anymore.

We could call it Trump’s law: the more thoroughly a problem is solved, the greater the number of fuckwits who will deny it ever existed.

Remember when Ronald Reagan reversed some New Deal stuff and that slowly ushered in the neo-Gilded Age? Yeah.

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I feel like I could make a reference to Chesterton's Fence every five minutes since the election. I'm limiting myself to one a day.

A medical coder. Someone whose job is data entry. Has decided to throw in their two cents on epidemiology. God grant me the confidence.

It couldn’t be because the patients this ass has never seen, but whose forms they’ve collated, are largely adults and therefore are already vaccinated, could it? Data entry is an honest gig, I don’t mean to deplore it, but this is a genuine way-the-fuck-out-of-your-lane moment.

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Possibly, but measles is still doing the rounds in the USA and in Europe, with hospitalisations/deaths, so no idea where this person works as a coder. Diphtheria has popped up again - a truly horrifying disease. TB never went away. And so on.

Measles is coming back www.who.int/news/item/16....

Grim. All the old Victorian diseases seem to be making a comeback. These anti vaxxers should take a tour of an old graveyard sometime, and see how many children died at very young ages.

that's the thing tho - they don't find it horrific. show them a cemetary full of dead victorian children and they either shrug or say "things are different now," not connecting the dots that the vaccines are WHY it's different. the mental gymnastics are just.... >_<

Mental, isn't it. Folk in those days would have given anything to save their children. Yes some of the diseases are treatable with antibiotics, but the risk of resistance is a whole other nightmare.

One thing I didn't know about measles is that it wipes the 'memory' of antibodies, leaving you open to catching sth you've had before and recovered from.

yeah! that's nuts! like, why would you wish that on a child?! gaahhhhh

yep.

Just until the resistant-to-all-known-antibiotics strain of tuberculosis that’s in India really gets rolling.

Oh, FFS.....

*Just wait

I’m a medical coder and it seems like you are confused about the role. We READ medical records and TRANSLATE that into a code. She’s an asshat, true. Not qualified to give medical advice, true. The data we create is literally used by WHO, etc. to monitor disease. C’mon now.

Isn't this precisely the great intellectual, John Roberts's argument against the VRA?

Close to insanity?

Painfully stupid.

I almost died from pertussis because my idiot father fell for the 1970s antivax scare. Took me to “get the shot” and brought me back with a little round bandaid. Mom didn’t realize there was no shot until I was admitted to the picu.

I'm sooo saddd

I literally cannot comprehend how they can be so stupid as to not make the connection.

People don't give a shit about history class and I think that's part of the problem.

It reminds me of when I was seven and asked my parents "Why do I have to brush my teeth? We just watched all those films set in ancient rome and all of their teeth were fine, and they didn't have tooth brushes back then."

Maybe it’s a good thing there are old Congresspeople and Senators with long memories. McConnell has already spoken up

We are witnessing the rebirth of survivorship bias.

I am 75. I had all those diseases when I was a kid except diphtheria. I am glad to learn that these diseases have been reduced by vaccinations. And saddened that anyone even adjacent to medicine would think vaccines are no longer needed for whatever reason.

These people are nuts.. And they vore..

And why don’t you see these cases?

I wonder which backwater they live in? www.cidrap.umn.edu/tuberculosis...

Yet so far away

Respectfully disagree.

Hey, I'm a bookkeeper and I've yet to catch measles, mumps, tuberculosis, diphtheria, rubella, or pertussis. Weird...

and yet so far, far away

So close, and yet so dense. 🤦🏻‍♂️

Someone very much like this works for a health insurance company and insists my doctors don't know what medicine I need.

The ignorance is appalling and heartbreaking. No one taught her basic critical thinking skills.

Could it be that the vaccines are working?

Also kids getting harmed by lead in house paint and playing outside in lead-contaminated dirt. Problem solved by banning lead in paint and gasoline. Unless you lived in Flint, MI and drank the water. Long, important story. Reflects badly on GOP. Again.

That's painfully dim-witted.

If her job is like the job of an old friend of mine, ‘medical coder’ means she works from home adjusting insurance claims and saying the hospital owes someone money or is owed by them. He seems to play a lot of video games while doing it, and I wouldn’t call him a medical expert

And they're just out in the world being all unsupervised while being THIS dense It's maddening

close to what tho? that womans timeline is a gd mess