WE ARE ENTERING FALL, AND I WILL SPICE MY HOT CIDER WITH CINNAMON, GINGER, NUTMEG, ALLSPICE, AND CLOVES, MAD WITH POWER AND WEALTH THAT ROYALTY OF CENTURIES PAST WOULD ENVY.
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have some mace too!
aug 28, 2025, 3:22 pm • 0 0 • view
SEE IF ALL THAT WERE REAL YOU'D ONLY NEED ALLSPICE BECAUSE THAT WOULD HAVE ALL THE SPICES BUT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Although I do admit cider with cloves and ginger is better than cider with pepper, salt, and cinnamon.
aug 28, 2025, 2:08 pm • 7 0 • view
Allspice is a lying fibber. I never think of salt and pepper as being spices... cinnamon is in my top three though. And smoked paprika and cumin. I guess you could have allspice, ras al hanout and garam masala, which are mixtures of several spices...
aug 28, 2025, 2:13 pm • 1 0 • view
See? Now I want to throw edge cases at you, to see how long you'll last until I wear you down. (team Big Spice)
aug 28, 2025, 2:26 pm • 1 0 • view
At what point does it become a "spice" instead of a "fruit or vegetable ingredient"? I was actually shocked to find out that salt *isn't* a spice, because it's not a plant.
aug 28, 2025, 2:45 pm • 3 0 • view
Hmmmm....I think they all (mostly) come from organic, vegetative matter. So herbs are dried leaves, spices are seeds (cracked, or ground)? Uh.... Except... a peppercorn is a fruit. Cinnamon is bark. Salt is a mineral. Sodium Hydroxide is used to make bagels. Hunh. IOW, I have no idea. Crap.
aug 28, 2025, 10:08 pm • 1 0 • view
I wore myself down, damnit!
aug 28, 2025, 10:08 pm • 2 0 • view
Cinnamon is technically a vegetable… 😀
aug 28, 2025, 10:13 pm • 1 0 • view
*headdesk* Why is biology?
aug 28, 2025, 10:18 pm • 0 0 • view
Nah nah, it's not the biology. Why is TAXONOMY???
aug 29, 2025, 4:34 am • 2 0 • view
Yeah, I was reading up on some of the wilder taxonomy recently, and while I appreciated the cool things I learned about plants, I don’t buy their organizing principles at all.
aug 30, 2025, 9:06 pm • 2 0 • view
As soon as you dig into ANYTHING you discover that there are no bright lines, only blobby gray clouds. Kinda like how things aren't classed as "vegetable" or "fish" - it's know-'em-when-you-see-'em cases all the way down, just some are fancified with Latin. I blame our stereotype-lovin' brains.
aug 30, 2025, 9:19 pm • 1 0 • view
SOMEONE HAS TO PAY THE TAX
aug 29, 2025, 9:33 am • 1 0 • view
It is an edible plant part that is not related to seeds! What else would it be?
aug 28, 2025, 10:20 pm • 1 0 • view
So, as a child, I actually thought allspice was a blend of all the spices, and was fairly confused when I found out it was not.
aug 28, 2025, 2:12 pm • 9 0 • view
It is super deceptive...
aug 28, 2025, 2:15 pm • 2 0 • view
In the sadly-departed game Glitch, you'd collect allspice berries from Spice Trees and grind them into all the other spices...
aug 28, 2025, 3:02 pm • 1 0 • view
I have good news. You can put those things on your drink year round! The seasonal police are fictitious!
aug 28, 2025, 3:24 pm • 0 0 • view
Yeah, but I don't *want* hot cider when it's 88F.
aug 28, 2025, 3:25 pm • 1 0 • view
Iced cider?
aug 28, 2025, 3:27 pm • 0 0 • view
Also, re the mildly-warm-spicery issues: can you handle long pepper? That'd work well in cider. (*Piper longum*: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_pe...)
aug 28, 2025, 2:15 pm • 2 0 • view
I haven't had it, but almost certainly yes, given that it's in Piperacea, and my issues all stem from Solanacea. I'll be on the look out to try this now, thanks. Most of the time when I want a spice to give something in the warm realm, I rely on ginger.
aug 28, 2025, 2:19 pm • 3 0 • view
Long pepper is really interesting, it manages to taste like a spice mix all by itself, a little like allspice does.
aug 28, 2025, 4:03 pm • 2 0 • view
And don't forget the chiles. Hot cider with chipotle or Ancho chiles in it is something else. :)
aug 28, 2025, 2:07 pm • 7 0 • view
Digestive problems with most non-potato nightshades make that a no-go. Any form of peppers (not black pepper; that's different) or eggplant cause ... issues. At least I can handle moderate amounts of tomatoes; not all in my family can.
aug 28, 2025, 2:11 pm • 3 0 • view
Weirdly, we can all *eat* potatoes fine, but multiple of us have skin reactions to peeling them, so we either cook them with the skins on, or sometimes use instant mashed potatoes.
aug 28, 2025, 2:11 pm • 3 0 • view
Probably Szechuan pepper would also be okay. It's from a variety of Zanthoxylum species.
aug 28, 2025, 4:17 pm • 1 0 • view
Oh gosh! And I thought *I* had problems. My sympathies. :/
aug 28, 2025, 2:13 pm • 3 0 • view
aug 28, 2025, 2:14 pm • 4 0 • view
Also, I suspect that most of us with some sort of medical-based dietary restriction have others we look at and think "thank goodness I don't have it as bad as *them*". For example, I'd rather have to avoid peppers than avoid gluten. Or histamine issues that mean someone can't have leftovers.
aug 28, 2025, 2:31 pm • 5 0 • view
…you know, as someone who has to avoid/minimise gluten and leftovers for histamine reasons, genuinely I’d rather that than having to avoid peppers. admittedly part of that is living in the Southwest, but I’d also absolutely hate living somewhere that didn’t use peppers extensively!
aug 28, 2025, 2:50 pm • 4 0 • view
so, yeah, I think you’re right and it’s hysterical how individual the “oh thank fuck I don’t have YOUR issue!” gratitude is.
aug 28, 2025, 2:51 pm • 6 0 • view
"Pain is not a flavor", I mutter under my breath, shaking my head... :)
aug 28, 2025, 2:57 pm • 10 0 • view
I don't like things super hot but I'm grateful I only need to avoid gluten and soy and can manage most nightshades. My life would be so sad if I couldn't eat the tomatoes I grow!
aug 28, 2025, 3:16 pm • 3 0 • view
Cider donut sundae is a horrific calorie bomb that I may just cave into this weekend.
aug 29, 2025, 4:28 am • 2 0 • view
I mean, if you want to spark envy…just grab some sugar 🙂
aug 28, 2025, 2:06 pm • 2 0 • view