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Quatrain Gleam @quatraingleam.bsky.social

I'd say build housing where there's cheap land like Bakersfield, but then you'd complain we just moved the problem--which would be true. You could demand towns build affordable housing--which Gavin and the leg have done.

aug 25, 2025, 5:04 pm • 0 0

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Zendervai @zendervai.bsky.social

"Affordable" is relative. Someone who is homeless and just had their money stolen and their documents destroyed has no recourse and nowhere to go. Why is that a net positive?

aug 25, 2025, 5:05 pm • 3 0 • view
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Quatrain Gleam @quatraingleam.bsky.social

Why is this your rhetoric bete noir? I agree with you. Stop beating dead horses.

aug 25, 2025, 5:16 pm • 0 0 • view
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Zendervai @zendervai.bsky.social

Except you're *not* agreeing with me. You're talking around the stuff about people getting their money and documents stolen and destroyed and trying to avoid directly referencing it. It's Newsom's main approach to existing homelessness and it's an objectively bad one that doesn't fix anything.

aug 25, 2025, 5:18 pm • 3 0 • view
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Quatrain Gleam @quatraingleam.bsky.social

No, silly. I agree with your point. Destroying encampments ruthlessly destroys lives. Period. No disagreement. Either accept the win we're done here.

aug 25, 2025, 5:22 pm • 0 0 • view
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Zendervai @zendervai.bsky.social

What win? Newsom did a massively cruel and damaging approach to solving a camp, did it on live TV in person, and the fact that he didn't go for any of the other approaches (including just...literally moving the people) is a real problem.

aug 25, 2025, 5:25 pm • 3 0 • view
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Zendervai @zendervai.bsky.social

Moving the people isn't a great solution...but it's *better* than completely destroying their lives and potential. Someone solving a problem with the worst possible solution that makes a different problem much worse isn't a win.

aug 25, 2025, 5:25 pm • 3 0 • view
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Zendervai @zendervai.bsky.social

It's a level of pointless performative cruelty that speaks *extremely* badly of what Newsom is actually like, because how someone behaves towards the least protected people around them is what they actually think. And no one cares if homeless people are ruthlessly attacked.

aug 25, 2025, 5:27 pm • 3 0 • view
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Zendervai @zendervai.bsky.social

If it was just the state doing it, there might be a level of separation, but he gleefully actively participated in person doing it. He *personally* endorses that approach.

aug 25, 2025, 5:28 pm • 3 0 • view
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Zendervai @zendervai.bsky.social

It doesn't *matter* if he funds shelters if most of the people who used them have no IDs left due to his other policies, because those people have no avenue open to them to get back on their feet.

aug 25, 2025, 5:19 pm • 3 0 • view
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Zendervai @zendervai.bsky.social

If you like his approach to homelessness or think it's necessary, than you should be able to explain why stealing money and destroying personal documents is necessary too.

aug 25, 2025, 5:20 pm • 3 0 • view
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Quatrain Gleam @quatraingleam.bsky.social

Stop. You can't discuss. You just attack.

aug 25, 2025, 5:21 pm • 0 0 • view
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Zendervai @zendervai.bsky.social

It's a simple yes or no. Are you okay with Newsom ordering the theft of the money and the destruction of the documents or not?

aug 25, 2025, 5:23 pm • 3 0 • view