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Jacques Riverain @jacquesriverain.bsky.social

They have been giving it lip-service then going to 'business as usual'. Clinton especially (and one his econ advisers started this thread!). Once the 'left' was fooled by monetarism and associated lies, they failed to develop a rebuttal and simply adopted it as the 'reality'.

aug 31, 2025, 7:30 pm • 20 1

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Feef and Finn @feef-and-finn.bsky.social

You are correct

sep 1, 2025, 12:37 am • 0 0 • view
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grfrog.bsky.social @grfrog.bsky.social

She didn't do anything she gave "lip service" to because she didn't win, she was not in office and had power to do nothing but talk. Democrats haven't recently been given the numbers not to be outright blocked. Always looking for an excuse to screw yourself you will always find it.

aug 31, 2025, 8:28 pm • 0 0 • view
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Jacques Riverain @jacquesriverain.bsky.social

I was talking about Bill Clinton.

aug 31, 2025, 8:32 pm • 5 0 • view
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grfrog.bsky.social @grfrog.bsky.social

Why where you talking about Bill Clinton as a stand in for the entire current party? That was 20+ years ago. We are in an entirely different world.

aug 31, 2025, 8:38 pm • 3 0 • view
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DeepStateOps💙🇺🇦🏳‍🌈🌿 @trizzia.bsky.social

Imagine if the Democratic controlled Senate had convicted Clinton. He would have been removed and Al Gore would have become POTUS. We would not be here today if the Dems had done the right thing regarding Bill Clinton. He was and still is a slime ball.

aug 31, 2025, 11:42 pm • 0 0 • view
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Jacques Riverain @jacquesriverain.bsky.social

Economist Warren Mosler once met Al Gore and explained to him how the govt wasn't money restricted, and Gore understood and agreed, but said it would be impossible to sell to the voting public. He then got up and made a typical neoliberal speech. It's crazy. True story.

aug 31, 2025, 11:57 pm • 1 0 • view
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Jacques Riverain @jacquesriverain.bsky.social

I was locating the point in time when the party completely accepted the orthodox economic position. Nothing has changed since then.

aug 31, 2025, 8:47 pm • 6 0 • view
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cpchrisman.bsky.social @cpchrisman.bsky.social

Yeah this is what I think too as I look back, this was the democrats leaning into liberalism as it pertains to less restrictions on the market.

aug 31, 2025, 11:08 pm • 3 0 • view
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Jacques Riverain @jacquesriverain.bsky.social

Clinton's admin abolished the Glass-Steagall act. They also ran the first govt surpluses in most people's lifetimes. People seem to think that is good, but a govt surplus means the govt restricts spending (to less than taxation) which just runs down the public's income/savings. They bought the lie.

aug 31, 2025, 11:11 pm • 1 0 • view
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cpchrisman.bsky.social @cpchrisman.bsky.social

Yes. Exactly this. His administration also gutted welfare and passed DOMA

aug 31, 2025, 11:15 pm • 2 0 • view
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Jacques Riverain @jacquesriverain.bsky.social

That's true. I don;t blame Clinton personally for that DOMA, but it's clear to see what a lot of the mainstream party were like. Some are still there.

aug 31, 2025, 11:28 pm • 2 0 • view
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cpchrisman.bsky.social @cpchrisman.bsky.social

I really don’t know how much a president has active hands on vs his administration, but yeah the party went like this mainstream and then danced back on social issues a bit, but…..

sep 1, 2025, 3:09 pm • 0 0 • view
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Jacques Riverain @jacquesriverain.bsky.social

When Clinton took power Dems had a senate/house majority. He could have pushed through single payer health reform. However there were background machinations. A lot of advisors pushing neoliberal economics, which they used to get centrist/right voters on board. So-called 'fiscal responsibility'.

sep 1, 2025, 3:17 pm • 1 0 • view
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fatm0use.bsky.social @fatm0use.bsky.social

and laid off 377k federal workers to be replaced with contractors

aug 31, 2025, 11:26 pm • 2 0 • view
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Jacques Riverain @jacquesriverain.bsky.social

It marks the point neoliberalism became truly bipartisan.

aug 31, 2025, 11:29 pm • 3 0 • view