It's that but a lot worse because he's saying he'll sign return agreements with the Taliban and other murderous autocratic states.
It's that but a lot worse because he's saying he'll sign return agreements with the Taliban and other murderous autocratic states.
Farage stirs up public unrest about immigration then promises to curb it by deporting immigrants who are the victims. It is he and his fascist supporters who should be punished heavily.
The only people who will accept the flights are those wanting people returned for punishment That will improve our world status...
Exactly, someone needs to argue the moral case. Why should the UK abandon it's responsibilities, try to sell it's responsibilities to Rwanda, force them upon overseas territories (somehow), or do dirty deals with countries who have no interest in doing deals? bsky.app/profile/will...
Watched years and years on netflix the other day and the preductions they made in 2019 have been spot on. The only problem was when they exposed the use of camps for immigrants etc, I fear now there would be no uproar from the general public and would be allowed to do it.
I need to watch it still... have heard good things. I can sadly imagine a world in 10-20 years where climate refugees are met with drone boats in the channel, which would've just been a dystopian sci-fi plot 10 years ago. Hopefully we can move the window back before we get there!
Strange how sanguine politicians across the spectrum appear to be about torpedoing "our brave boys"' prospects of recruiting local translators etc in future conflicts
Do we think it's politically smart of him? I know some people want to get asylum seekers out at all costs but I'm not sure if *all* the people saying "send them back to France" necessarily think they should be sent to Afghanistan
This is specific to interpreters who worked for British forces and it's from 2021, but still shows a large majority (71%) in support: (Also, @yougov.co.uk it's Afghan citizens, not Afghani, the latter is the currency!) yougov.co.uk/topics/polit...
It's literally the equivalent of deporting German Jews back to Auschwitz.
Yes, good analogy.
It's a relevant analogy because the Blackshirts who were the political forerunners of Farage, would have done exactly that, if they had the power to do so.
No it is not a relevant analogy and is a bit hysterical given that Germany is currently sending back Afghans with a criminal record, which I doubt they would be doing without the consent of the courts. www.euronews.com/my-europe/20...
He's a pound shop Trump, and paid tor by the same people. It's the same fash money.
I really think it's important to constantly emphasise that Farage wants to help the Taliban murder and torture people.
Given that Farage encouraged riots in his own country where people were nearly killed I would say he was on the same level as the Taliban.
I agree but unfortunately a lot of people probably wouldn’t care even if they knew that
I think it’s better to point he’s a Russian sympathiser who’s one big political “success” was Brexit which has made everyone poorer. He wants us to talk about immigration. We should move the conversation on
We can so both: 1. The cruelty of returning people to be assassinated. 2. Fagash and Putin being bezzy mates. Putin and Fagash working in tandem to get us out of EU. 3. Fagash is a traitor to the UK.
The big claim Nigel Farage is making is that a successful ethnically diverse society is not possible. Labour need to challenge the basis of that in order to win.
Oh so now he’s in favour of international agreements.
Yes and whilst we're at it, that Ferage and Tice have been regular guests on RT and support the Russian war watch the hands not the mouth, Ferage is all talk of Ukraine but he let's Russian Oligarchs line his pockets.
Especially as Labour seem to be incapable of taking Farage, Jenrick and co on, isn't it about time for the LibDems to stand up and make the liberal voice heard loud and clear?
When the LDs and other parties are given a chance they do, the key word is 'chance'.
The media seems hard-pressed to find politicians who will provide the counternarrative. They seem to be turning, primarily, to activists and others in the community. Davey and other LD MPs have a chance here if they make it very clear to media outlets that they are available.
Ed Davey had a meeting with the BBC about this 2 weeks ago, they have been making themselves available but the media are selective on who they pick.
And he’s saying no more human rights protections for UK citizens either … but trust him on that one.
TBF, I think he has been clear it isn't that he wants to help them torture and murder people, he just doesn't care that he would be helping them torture and murder people.
Only because he doesn't yet think he would get away with murdering and torturing them himself 🤔
I know of I was an MP, I would be demanding that every Media outlet publishes/airs my condemnation of Farrage and his hate. I would be shouting it from the rooftops.
Because they are “Other” not really people like Farage and Robinson so they do not require consideration owed to real people. Disgusting
But Labour wants to appease him and his followers.
I doubt that people who support Farage care much about that. As you have said many times reason will not change these people’s minds.
No but most people don't support him and that needs reinforcing.
Farage knows ,there's around 30% of voters that'll buy into his narrative.With the current state of our electoral system, that's all he requires. We need PR in place for the next GE.
It's not about "support", it's the benefit of the doubt that matters. Given the failures, ambiguities and compromises of other parties, why would anyone think that Farage/Reform wouldn't be able to be given that by enough people to enable them to do real and substantial harm?
I know powerful people are backing Farage, the press are bored, and Labour are being a bunch of idiots squandering the chance to improve the country... but... given the next possible change of government is 3+ years away, it's infuriating that we're forced to hear these absolute muppets every day
Labour could give everyone a million pounds and Reform would spin it with one liners that that Labour are still the enemy.
Labour are delivering policy and attempting to make living, work, housing and educational standards better for the people of the UK. The RW media are against the Labour government, Farage riles up the nutters, can't understand why he's not been arrested.
I can agree Farage needs to go away, but why are Labour leaning into his rhetoric? It's only sliding the Overton window further right. You could understand it as a last resort if there was an election in 2 months and 60% of the electorate had signed their allegiance to Farage in blood, but why now?
They should actively denounce the yobs and their "legitimate concerns" and focus on explaining to the population the short and long term policy changes that will make our lives better. I'm still giving them the benefit of the doubt, but they have been scoring a lot of own goals.
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But I’m sure Farage’s version will definitely, definitely work and deal with the problem forever, hence why he’ll call it the Final Solution…
He will have to meet the Taliban to do the deal, that would be good as they will just publicly execute him.
The cruelty signal should be taken seriously Farage is a [insert appropriately strong swear words] I just want to ask the melts falling for this crap again - who will you blame when you’re still poor, sick, with uneducated kids & uncared for elders, when you’ve “done enough” on immigration?
Signing return agreements will necessitate some effort and diplomacy- can’t see that happening. If it can’t be dealt with by soundbite Nige ain’t interested
There some really clever and creative people on here. Please start to put create 'messages' that will describe Farages traitorous behaviour. Farage shouts and has that awful phlegmy voice: Can his shouting be used? Remember when Spitting Image used to do the Tory cabinet? 😂
And Roy Hattersley spitting?
What exactly is Fagash doing to avoid being investigated and arrested?
And these racist Fagash followers will be more than happy with that, the crueller the better for them.
Labours response that the proposals 'are pie in the sky'. Reform must be terrified. Meanwhile, Farage gets his policies communicated on BBC News.
Now they're playing Cliff Richard. Enough BBC for today.
I think it’s really important Farage shows he’s serious by going to Afghanistan, Iran, Syria, Gaza and other very dangerous places.
Let's just confront Farage every time with his idea to send people, often those who helped UK forces, to their & probably their families horrific deaths, abandoned by the State they risked their lives to help. Farage will gleefully see them killed for his bank balance. He's an evil cunt.
He does cover that bsky.app/profile/tors...
Some camps modelled on examples originally in 1930s Poland
The Labour Party must quickly realise that if they don’t get rid of Starmer et al now, Farage could well win the next election.
Only for the right fee obviously.
I know that the racist bstard hates to be called out, but this isn't just casual racism. He's no different to Hitler, end of fucking story. And anyone who supports him, yes even your racist granny, who's not really a racist, but is, is no fucking better. May they all rot for eternity.