US security guarantees and western troops in Ukraine, huh? MAGA isn’t going to like that. On a serious note, if we land at a real, enforceable security guarantee, that will exceed every expectation I had for Trump ending the war in an equitable way. We’ll see.
I'm not going to hold my breath
It’s not like Trump will honor it anyway.
Time to 🇺🇸.....Instead of attacking Trump, we the people should go after congressional Republicans. Trump won't change. But uncomfortable Republicans can shut him down..... Or both....‼
Absolutely. The GOP "capitulated" just a little too easily. They are in on the 2025 government by, for and of billionaires game. No one is holding them accountable. Forget the legacy press; they are a part of it as well.
Every. Single. Time.
Agreed. Take down the pillars and the house of cards falls.
It wouldn't matter because that's a worthless guarantee with that fucking dipshit at the helm. He'll back out of it or not fulfill the obligations. Would you give away your weapons in reliance on something stumpy has said or provides or gives or guarantees? FUCK NO!
ITS NOTHING MORE THAN A DISTRACTION FROM THE EPSTEIN FILES!
Keep saying Epstein List Epstein List Epstein List Every Day Every Where
Trump and Putin reportedly agreed on a potential land transfer deal involving Ukraine ceding some territory to Russia, including parts of Donbas. However, this agreement would require Ukrainian approval, and President Zelensky has strongly opposed any concessions of unoccupied territory.
This "deal" is equivalent to Mexico promising not to invade the US in exchange for the US giving Mexico most of southern Texas, Arizona and New Mexico (all land that once belonged to Mexico and which has a large Spanish-speaking population). Do you think Trump would think that's a good deal?
Fixed: Zelensky has consistently and firmly rejected any concessions of both occupied and unoccupied territory in eastern Ukraine, including the Donbas region.
Somewhere Winston Churchill is smiling
As he should! Russia started this illegal war!! Russia should be held accountable!!
Ukraine should get Moscow tbh.
It requires ukraine to guve up land ..wont happen..
Trump on Monday is simply going to pass along Putin’s demands, try to bully Zelinskyy into accepting, and then publicly state Zelinskyy is standing in the way of peace. Trump is a joke.
Definitely not Nobel Peace Prize material Donny…
He wants that Nobel prize so badly he can taste it. He thinks this will be the way he gets it. It'll be funny when/if he gets denied.
Ukraine had a security guarantee in place when Russia invaded. It gave up its nukes for a security guarantee. They are meaningless if not enforced.
Angry, Angry, Angry...
Putin would never stop taking land from Ukraine. And he wouldn't stop there.
trump and "equitable" cannot exist in the same, reality-based, sentence.
Trump is unable to spell equitable much less understand what it means.
#NotHoldingBreath
Trump will fall for anything Putin puts on front of him.
Not without a land swap that is unacceptable.
Why would anyone believe America? We already promised them once and reneged, attacked President Z in the Oval Office, and shut them out of the so-called summit in Alaska. The world now sees the USA as arms dealers and pedophiles or complicit to both.
I'm envisioning the old Eastern bloc, US troops and CIA in Eastern Europe, and a hightened cold war.
Do you know how you can tell when Trump is lying? His mouth is moving. If the US is providing those securities and of course Europe is going to because they are next then that's NATO. Trump is officially 'tarded
Fuck that. Push the Russians right out of Ukraine. Poland could finish them off. Why the hell not?
They already have "security guarantees" for whatever good that did them. Fall for it again? I think not. And Western troops in Ukraine. Yeah...another occupying force to do who knows what with a sovereign nation. Born yesterday?
He’s such a colossal fuck up. Don’t ever think Trump will ever do anything they doesn’t involve something for him. So Ukraine isn’t getting anything
Restart the draft so unemployed people are "productive" and his numbers look better. What could possibly go wrong? /sarcasm.
So many young adults aren’t qualified for military service. Unfit (too fat?) and lacking education.
RFKjr will send them to the fat-farms to provide agricultural slave labour.
And heal their mental illness.
I would applaud that but I can’t see him crossing Putin.
Well he does want the Nobel Peace Prize more than anything. So he may just do something
No one can, or will, trust Trump to even be able to get up stairs in 6 months, much less security guarantees past the end of his own nose.
Not at the price of delivering 20% of Ukraine to Putin.
Even if, and that's a big if, what did he give up for it?
I read Putin wants Russian to be the official language of UA again. Sounds like a pretext for future invasion - “the people living there were actually Russian. Look at the language they speak.” Plus, Putin signed a piece of paper a long time ago to not invade UA if they gave up nukes. 😒
FYI, I believe that was Yeltsin, not Putin. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapes...
It was still Russia, though.
Absolutely. That has no bearing on the violation of trust. Just slightly less insultingly egregious than if it was the same individual.
True.
Ok. My mistake.
If we land at a real, enforceable security guarantee then russia won't agree to stop. For Putin the purpose of these talks is to assist his war effort.
How much territory does Ukraine have to give up to get it?
Nah, don’t. Any real security guarantees will be provided by Europe. Trump is still every bit the idiot.
NEVER going to happen.
No one should believe anything that Trump says until the #TACO interval has passed.
I just hope Zelenskyy brings back up from the EU on his summoned visit. No red carpet for him is a given. If he’s ganged up like last time, he should stand, say thank you for your time and walk out.
Exactly what I was thinking 👍
More distractions.
Pigs will fly before Trump does that. If he doesn’t block it entirely, he’ll fob it off on the Europeans. They’re going to need to do it anyway.
Only if Ukraine gives up the secured high ground.
If you see any positive aspect of the deal, you can be sure that General Disaster had no actual input.
But didn’t we give security guarantees when they have up their nukes in the 90s? Seems meaningless.
Shit. We already guaranteed their security once, and look how that turned out. Most people don't even remember the conditions on giving up fissionable material. It is beyond Trump to even consider anything reasonable and real. It would all be bent sideways in favor of Putin.
Don’t fall for this trial balloon.
The MFer can’t even walk in a straight line He’s not gonna solving any problems ever Dementia Don is a hot mess
So where are the epstein files?
Didn’t you land one in 1994? What about the security guarantees for Ukraine in the Budapest Memorandum? What is Putin demanding? Apparently Donetsk, Luhansk, and what other invaded territory? Trump will probably offer up additional Ukrainian territory to please Putin. Disgusting betrayal.
Don’t hold your breath. Watch what he does, not what he says.
Trump will only succeed if Putin wants him to. Trump had no say in the matter, his is only a wish list or parrotting Putin's wants. Trump needs to be embarrassed publicly by Zelensky now.
If Russia were to withdraw to beyond a neutral zone, give back all occupied land (including Crimea), agree to an oil & gas revenue split with Ukraine AND allow Ukraine to join NATO, I would personally give Trump the f*cking Nobel Prize he wants so bad!! Likelihood of this happening - zero.
Ukraine received a US Security Guarantee when they gave up their nukes. Fat lot of good it did them! The US can not longer be trusted.
Nothing to see. Absolutely nothing. Nothing will come of this. This ranks right uo there with trumps threatened sanctions on russia
Angry, legit question, what was the purpose or significance of heads of commerce and treasury going to the Alaska meeting?
They are there to keep the press from reporting the facts. With enough distractions, they won’t know what they just heard!
The U.S. already has made security guarantees for Ukraine. 🇺🇦 What Ukraine lacks is an American President to deliver on those guarantees.
I worry that once trump, Putin, and Zelensky are in a meeting together that the 1st two will gang up on Z just as trump and JD did at the WH. That is how trump rolls, his alliances and rhetoric change in seconds.
Don't buy it for ONE SECOND. Putin will NEVER GO FOR IT. NEVER
He will taco all of it
By troops , do they mean like a demilitarized zone ??
Maybe we should look at how well the last security guarantees worked out for Ukraine. 🤷🏼♂️
Putin says if he gets what he wants he promises to not attack any country ever again. Well that settles it then. 🤷🏻♂️
I feel the tide turning.
www.msn.com/en-us/news/w... hundreds-of-protests-held-across-us-against-trump-policy-moves /vi-AA1KFI3W?ocid=socialshare
Western troops mean European not US. Maybe Hungarian and Turkish? 🤔 Vlad might actually approve of that. And remember, Trump is no fan of NATO. But in reality - it's all BS.
I promise you it's all fluff. We are out of this one; Europe hasn't figured it out yet, Ukraine can't openly flout it but they know. Russia and China know too. Every single time Trump has betrayed Ukraine, it has stuck. It's only when his underlings are the betrayers that it gets undone
Even if he signs something it doesn't mean anything.
We already have a security guarantee with Ukraine, and Trump's ignoring it. So, what does "enforceable" look like?
I'll believe it when I fkn well see it.
I’m not holding my breath. 🤣🤣 But I’d love some real peace and an end to this thing FOR Ukraine ON Ukraine’s terms. If Ukraine is good with the deal, I am. Otherwise, they need our support. And if Putin walks away, Europe should send in air defense units into Ukraine around Kyiv.
Any land surrendered to the russians means that Putin was right and then he will continue to attack his neighbors.
Yeah, that is definitely a fair point. I guess I’m mostly just saying this is up to the Ukrainians. 👊❤️🙏
It’s their homeland being invaded. They get to decide 🙏
I’m thinking it’s hot bullshit, just like everything else Trump has “guaranteed.”
Exactly
I see security was lax again at the meeting. Menus, seating assignments and names with phone numbers left on hotel printers. www.npr.org/2025/08/16/n...
Evidence of their clandestine meeting 💞
Never happen.
Wait, wait, I thought the whole MAGA premise for defending Putin's invasion was that western troops and NATO in Ukraine were going to be too close to Russia's border? Threateningly close.
We can dream, at the very least.
Meanwhile, back at de-bugging The Beast and every inch of Alaska the Ruski's set foot on....
Right. Ukraine was promised securities in Budapest, forced to give up the nuclear weapons and abandoned as soon as Putin started the war in Donbass. I hope nobody is going to buy it now should it even happen
But it won't be a guarantee. Donald Trump is never going to commit himself or a successor to go to war with Russia to defend Ukrainian territory. Even Biden wouldn't have done that. And mere encouraging words aren't reliable, as shown by the 1994 memorandum that got Ukraine to give up nukes.
The White House removed Budapest memorandum from its website... Nukes back to Ukraine, that is the only thing that could secure Ukraine. Or collapse of Russian empire. Americans helped to save Russian empire already several time, maybe it is time for them to stop preventing unpreventable.
Did trump announce this?
From WSJ. Sorry, I can't share the actual article because I don't have a subscription.
Thanks
Trump “guarantee” is an oxymoron
You do realize you're dreaming, right?