I do agree I'm asking people (including myself) to align with people they don't want to align with. I don't like Newsom (for many reasons, starting with trans issues). But my trans daughter is way more fucked under Trumpism than any alternative. I'll fight it out with the Newsoms when we're free.

Maybe the issue is you don't yet accept that American democracy no longer exists. If that's where you are, I can see why you're having trouble getting on board with fighting authoritarianism at all costs. You'll likely get there, but it may not be until after the Trump people come for you.

I accept it. I just don’t care. Democracy means nothing when people don’t have civil rights. The Nazis came to power by way of democracy. So did Trump. Slavery and segregation were enacted democratically. They were abolished undemocratically. You have chosen to submit to authoritarianism.

This is just so ridiculously stupid. There is zero chance for human rights under Trumpism. If we defeat him, you and I will be aligned in our fight against people like Newsom. (For the record, I live in CA and lived in SF when he was mayor and have never actually voted for Newsom.)

Naturally youd think that. That’s why you are defending fascism. There’s zero chance for human rights under either, so it makes no difference. You & I are not aligned, nor can we ever be. You are a fascist apologist, I’m an anti-fascist. I would NEVER sacrifice your daughter. You would.

Your new argument is you have the same chance at obtaining LGBTQ+ rights in democracy with a leader you oppose than you do in an authoritarian state. Only a Trump person would take that position. I'm obviously not going to continue to feed you, MAGA troll.

No, that’s not my argument at all. But naturally you have to misrepresent me. You literally are defending Trump’s policies lol.

We have a phrase for that: it’s called kicking people out of the coalition. You decided that Newsom is more important than trans people. You decided that your daughter is expendable, so long as you get what you want. You will never be free. You chose fascism. Enjoy it. I weep for your daughter

To be clear, this is what I decided: Fighting the authoritarian regime that probably wants to murder my child and definitely wants to take her from me is more important and better protects her than some bullshit purity on who I align with in that fight. not the thing you said.

To be clear, this is what you decided: Fighting the authoritarian regime that wants to murder your daughter doesn’t matter, and it’s more important and better protects her to sacrifice her to a fascist if it means you can blame other trans people for “purity bs” when said candidate inevitably loses

That’s because you’re an ideologue that’s in denial.

No, it's because "literally" means it's actually happening and "kick out" doesn't mean "take positions that people don't like, after which they decide leave."

No, it’s because literally means it’s actually happening (which it is) and kick out means forcing someone out of the coalition against their will by allying with someone who thinks they shouldn’t have civil rights. You have not given LGBTQ people any choice. You chose.

that's just not what kicking out means. Also a very interesting take that LGBTQ+ people have no choice, given how many are on the same side as I am. Are you going to go tell all those people they don't exist?

LOL you just said that it is. Of course we have no choice. We cannot ally with someone who doesn’t think we should have civil rights. Do you think Jews had a choice to ally with Hitler? Of course there are LGBT ppl on your side. They exist, they just don’t last long. We call them Ernst Rohms