you refused to be guilted and now you are like 'god liberals are such heartless monsters' shut the fuck up
you refused to be guilted and now you are like 'god liberals are such heartless monsters' shut the fuck up
Seriously… what real world, actually interacting with other human beings work have you done to further any political cause. Your thread sure makes it seem like it’s simple, we’re just some dumb fucks who haven’t figured it out…
A lot of this is best resolved by assuming the people in question think they have a God-given right to be the protagonists of any resistance activity, and if they aren't, it can't be 'true' resistance
This is what happens when you have Leninists so deracinated from their Leninism that they don't formally believe in a vanguard party, but automatically assume they are the vanguard as a matter of course It's the same thing evangelicals do with the Bible, probably because it's the same demographic
"I believe I am of the elect!" while manifestly failing to follow any of the practical tenets of the faith in question required to be so "I am the vanguard of the revolution!" while manifestly failing to engage in effectual revolutionary activity and pushing away possible allies
These are a lot of young people, raised in evangelical culture if not thought, who have rebelled against their parents without fully disentangling from the basic foundations of that movement Like New Atheists before them
And on top of that, you have leftist organizers and thinkers that have been in the fight for years, have honest critiques and actual strategies that may or may not involve electoral politics, but see this pointed out and think you're talking about them when no, it's the newbies
Someone either smarter or with more time than me needs to start writing about this phenomenon, as I've seen it across social media platforms
I mean, buddy, if you check my posting history, it's something I write about an unreasonable amount
still staring at this one because goddamn you nailed it
I can't take credit for the whole package of insights, but, yeah, it really does seem to be what's going on sometimes Found Lenin/found Jesus crossover, complete with the bare-minimum exposure to the foundational texts
Every opposition is CIA-backed and fake except for ours
what's happening is the chilling impact of viciously anti-Palestinian policy *domestically* which was a result/risk of Trump's re-election absolutely no one in the scene seemed to consider in terms of their positioning even though it was telegraphed as much as the tariffs bsky.app/profile/rand...
people saying it would be more productive organizing under Trump - not when you're running for your lives you idiots
maybe it would be if we got Trump I again but it was blatantly clear this was going to be Trump without any restraint and an administration as brain-poisoned and evil as he is
like at the end of the day fuck joe biden to hell for making it genuinely hard to *make* a harm reduction case for an ongoing genocide but he doesn't matter anymore
if you say you would rather the current situation than trying to move the Democratic party on Palestine you are a fucking liar or a psychopath
So what did you do to try to stop Biden from supporting genocide? What did you do to stop the Harris campaign from saying they would do the same as Biden?
They have no answer for this. Just "You can't pressure Trump!" yeah well we apparently couldn't fucking pressure Biden and Harris either, so we made the electoral threat and followed through. Now they're trying to blame us for them not believing us.
Oh I know. The only"answers" I've gotten from this question are insults and blocks
right now we have a genocide escalating by the day and not a single lever of power to pull. even if we vacuumed all the zionism out of schumer and jeffries by magic they couldn't do anything. as someone who does care about Palestinians I hate it here and you should too.
Keep posting, I'm sure you'll make sense eventually
You sound really mad that may be why you can’t understand or remember anything.
Lol so mad!
Yes, you’re so mad you came back hours later to indicate how mad you are.
I mean what if the decreasing power of those who hope to gain from it is an unavoidable effect of accellerationism
The Democrats made it extremely clear to us in 2024 that even if they took/retained power, we would have no "lever of power" regarding Palestine. Now if the Democrats want to avoid a repeat in 2026 and 2028, their only option is to become an anti-racist, anti-genocide party. Or we'll do it again.
And in the process condemned millions more via the elimination of USAID & PEPFAR. gg dumbfuck
Damn that sucks, maybe try opposing genocide
That's on you and the genocidal party you support and frankly I hope your life does get worse for being able and willing to vote for genocide.
delusional. Trump's hated enough and crashing plains state's economies bad enough democrats might take the senate. the problem is the damage being done now, not the electoral appeal of the Trumpist GOP
I'm glad you've found an excuse to allow you to continue to be pro-genocide.
You still wouldn't vote for them because you don't care about Gaza beyond giving you an excuse to stay at home help fascists win - you made things way worse for Palestine and celebrated it All you did was move the party rightwards because that's their only voter base left, which is what you wanted
Things stayed exactly the same for Palestine. Trump's, Biden's, and Harris's policies on Israel-Palestine are the same. If we have enough political and electoral power to cost the Democrats elections, then if they want to win again they have to compromise with us., or stay pro-genocide and lose.
You are both being ridiculous. Obviously the person to whom you are responding cares a lot about the genocide of Palestinians, Israeli impunity & US complicity/collusion. Biden Admin & Dems laid the extremely dangerous groundwork for the repression of this moment.
It is also the height of sheer delusion to pretend a Harris Administration was not still the better option on this & every other issue.
I agree. But apparently if you think that you’re racist or something I don’t know.
Democrats are thoroughly bought and paid for by genocidal Zionists and you won't push them to do anything. You'll only compromise yourself going to them.
If it wasn’t for you ‘Genocide Joe’ hypocrites, then maybe Trump wouldn’t be in charge and actively cheering on genocide I never hear any of you talk shit about Trump, you’re all STILL blaming Biden, and a woman who never made policy decisions.
Well said.
You can be mad at his administration if you think he could have done more You can’t try and erase the fact that he was the most outspoken critic of Israel that’s ever been in the Oval But noooooooo, a WOMAN was a bridge too far. Instead, you help the white supremacist get elected. Cool
One of these men made congressional approved deals conditional One of them told BB to “Finish the job” But thanks for everything you’ve done 🙄
Damn that's crazy, maybe Harris should have promised to stop supporting the genocide so that she could win instead of lose.
Or maybe you should've just fucking supported her, like a smart person?
Or maybe she should've just fucking not supported genocide, like someone who wants to win?
didn’t at least some of the activists admit that they didn’t protest Trump because doing so would have put them personally in real danger? People were thrilled when they could make the case for the “rational, single-issue Gaza voter,” but they’re back to genocide=genocide because what’s left?
Biden was doing the viciously anti-Palestinian, anti-Muslim policy *domestically*. He was constantly calling anti-genocide protesters "anti-semitic". Biden built the house, Trump is just living in it.
Was he kidnapping and deporting protestors, you fucking moron?
He was doing other things which were also unacceptable. It's funny how you people always place your red line precisely between what the Ds are doing and what the Rs are doing, post facto.
You refused to be guilted about genocide and now you're like "god I can't believe these leftists thought brown non-Americans are human beings"
Before we can defeat our enemies we must first defeat our allies!
Genociders are not my allies
This is your core value, offering token resistance in the form of platitudes while pretending the rest of us lack object permanence.