is saying 'Democrats oppose a draft and war with Iran' that hard though? I mean, obviously yes, but not for good reasons we should accept
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I mean, it’s not that hard because a bunch of Dems are saying it, or at least saying they oppose war with Iran. They aren’t saying they oppose a draft because why would they? That’s crazy. It’s a “my we won’t have a draft T-shirt raising a lot of questions answered by my shirt” situation
jun 23, 2025, 12:52 am • 5 1 • view
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jun 23, 2025, 12:56 am • 0 0 • view
I think the point is that they could say it but it wouldn’t break through to the TikTok brains
jun 23, 2025, 12:25 am • 4 0 • view
not immediately, no. but we have time especially if Trump keeps faceplanting into wars
jun 23, 2025, 12:26 am • 2 0 • view
Yea time to make the statement and the argument, but what’s the counter argument to: “But Joe Rogan said there’s this thing called the D-Draft, that democrats have been pushing for decades…”
jun 23, 2025, 12:29 am • 1 0 • view
I mean it's not hard to say that I just don't think that will do anything to dissuade people from believing Dems will draft them.
jun 23, 2025, 12:47 am • 73 2 • view
Reminds me of the story that LBJ spread a rumor that a political rival had carnal relations with pigs. Someone objected it wasn’t true and LBJ said he just wanted the guy on the record denying it
jun 23, 2025, 1:38 am • 0 0 • view
i think if it's hammered home as Trump makes this worse and worse we could get there eventually
jun 23, 2025, 12:48 am • 0 0 • view
The initial belief wasn't based on anything, how do you credibly promise not to do something when the belief that you will is entirely hallucinated?
jun 23, 2025, 12:48 am • 63 3 • view
i mean hawkish democrats talking about standing with ironclad support of israel is not halucinated
jun 23, 2025, 12:49 am • 12 0 • view
Right but that has *nothing to do with a draft*
jun 23, 2025, 12:51 am • 30 0 • view
Here's my guess: Nobody understands what a draft is. Just like they don't understand how bills work or tax brackets or anything else. If there's War, then it's War We Might Die For. This is one of those things where you have to respond but on your terms not their nonsense.
jun 23, 2025, 12:53 am • 4 0 • view
That is, just be sufficiently anti-This War and you'll be about as effective as you could be in reducing people's fears of a draft. Wouldn't hurt to have Kamala give a speech specifically decrying this as fucked up and unconstitutional because we have no other leaders rn
jun 23, 2025, 12:54 am • 3 0 • view
I think Democrats' inability to oppose all of Trump's wars without sounding like they just wanted in on the killing is absolutely related to fears they'd support a draft
jun 23, 2025, 12:53 am • 18 0 • view
it's easier to defuse this shit when there isn't positive evidence for the hallucination
jun 23, 2025, 12:57 am • 10 0 • view
Even if that were true, how would that explain a differential in “what party will draft you”? Why wouldn’t republicans get that heat just as much?
jun 23, 2025, 12:57 am • 2 0 • view
I think the only hope of that is to distinguish ourselves as much as possible and give it three years to sink in
jun 23, 2025, 12:58 am • 1 0 • view
I generally agree but on these specific hallucinations there comes a line where you’re just reactive. “When will democrats condemn the bowling green massacre?!”
jun 23, 2025, 1:05 am • 3 0 • view
It's incredibly stupid, but I think the thought process is something like this: Trump: I'm the peace candidate, Dems do war, I'm peace, destroy all my enemies Dems: We need a strong military and to defeat our enemies abroad. It's clearly flattened but this is all many people are hearing, I think
jun 23, 2025, 1:09 am • 2 0 • view
And no one worried about a draft is old enough to consider accusations of Dems being peaceniks. They see a lot of failed foreign wars in their lifetime that had bipartisan support and that Trump very vocally critiqued if they were around in 2015/2016 (regardless of him lying then). It is unfortunate
jun 23, 2025, 1:09 am • 1 0 • view
Yea I get that’s what people are hearing, but if they’re unable to compare those statements to the reality around them, dem statements on being against the draft aren’t going to fix that. There will be a new TikTok fiction before they’re done recording the video
jun 23, 2025, 1:14 am • 2 0 • view
This is a bit much in defeatism IMO when the Dem support for Israel is causing most of the problem. It is the fact that they are constantly caught with bellicose soundbites rather than the substance of anything. They need to literally be talking about peace more often. Save war for helping Ukraine.
jun 23, 2025, 1:17 am • 1 0 • view
Put differently, the above is not an issue that can be fixed with better messaging.
jun 23, 2025, 1:15 am • 2 0 • view
The other problem is, how do you prioritize among many different beliefs about hallucinations versus real issues in real topics when you have finite time and resources?
jun 23, 2025, 9:09 am • 2 0 • view
This leaves aside the fact that voters for whatever reason will project onto Trump whatever they want and not absorb what he/GOP prioritizes.
jun 23, 2025, 9:09 am • 1 0 • view
This situation reminds me of how journalists will melt down over Kamala describing the color of her clothes to the visually impaired as some vanguard of the Cultural Revolution, but will dismiss Trump ranting about pig's blood bullets because that's just him or whatever.
jun 23, 2025, 12:51 am • 34 2 • view
I'm not sure why every comment left of center people say is taken hyper seriously and full of extreme implications while nothing the right says is taken seriously no matter what happens. And I'm not sure what to do about this situation either.
jun 23, 2025, 12:52 am • 30 2 • view
The Dems thought Russia should not invade Ukraine and this was taken as a prelude to WW3 no matter how little they actually committed to fighting Russia. Trump threatened to turn the Middle East to glass and no one took it as a signal of anything. I don't get it and I don't know what to do.
jun 23, 2025, 12:53 am • 31 4 • view
There's going to be no military draft. This isn't to say that trump won't deploy the military wherever he wants but doubt they'll be a draft.
jun 23, 2025, 6:24 am • 0 0 • view
Say “I’ve heard your concerns and I’ve changed my mind, we’re cancelling the plans for the draft”
jun 23, 2025, 1:33 am • 0 0 • view
I think Dems could clearly state a simple position and that will help some. Right now older Dems are afraid of being mistaken for antiwar hippies and it makes them hedge their statements too much.
jun 23, 2025, 12:23 pm • 1 0 • view
Why has not a single Democrat come out and said they won’t nuke Santa Claus?
jun 23, 2025, 12:49 am • 5 0 • view
They've been waging a multi-front war on Christmas for years.
jun 23, 2025, 12:52 am • 5 0 • view
Not saying that definitely won't dissuade anyone though
jun 23, 2025, 12:49 am • 1 0 • view