Let’s be real. Kinzinger gave up his seat, came to the DNC convention, and campaigned for Harris. He sometimes posts stuff that I don’t agree or think might be unhelpful, but it’s not fair to call him a chaos agent or to say that he helped Trump get elected.
Let’s be real.. he voted with a rapist felon 90% of the time when he was in office. Even though he voted against him during the impeachment, he said he regretted it! So chaos agent fits him. He isn’t helping voters or Dems cause he was in line with the felon rapist when he was in office.
It’s fine to call out his prior record. It’s fine to call out his party affiliation. It’s fine to call out how he’s currently moving on social media. I don’t take issue with any of that. The point is, there’s no reason to make up stuff to get your point across. There’s no reason to do that.
What am I making up? There is nothing in my post that is made up!
I already explained why I thought your comment was incorrect.
No you didn’t.. all you said is it doesn’t help to make stuff up… what’s the stuff that is made up in my post?
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And I do not agree. For reasons that I have already explained. But it's pointless to continue this. I stand by what I said.
That’s the great thing we don’t have to agree… just as you said what you said… as I said what I said. He was fine with destroying America the first time around the difference is he was getting something out of it. I bet if he was offered a cabinet position he would take it.
Again, that’s crap that leftists do on this app. And it’s so unhelpful and muddies the actual issue. Which is that his original post is wrong and discourages support for Democrats.
Exactly. When he was a representative there was little I would have agreed with him about. But the only way to remove Trump is through solidarity. And it goes both ways. Excellent take here by @jvl.bsky.social www.thebulwark.com/p/how-to-thi...
Idc what he came to he keeps blaming the Dems And that is why a large part of why were here. This (BS/X) isn't the real world & he has the time and resources to spread the word like he wants dems to do but its easier to do it from the comfort of his home.
And it’s totally valid to point that out. But it’s not necessary to make up stuff that’s not true in the process. That’s not helpful.
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I personally would never go after him if he weren’t saying these things about Democrats now. I admire his sacrifice as a veteran and as a lonely voice in opposition to his dangerous party. But what he’s doing now (I believe), is cutting his losses bc he knows how evil the monster we face is,
And like I said, it’s fine to push back on the things Kinzinger says that are unhelpful or wrong. We should be doing that. But it’s not fine to make up stuff that’s not true. That’s what I’m objecting to. And it’s not true that he helped Trump get elected again.
Leftists come on this app every day and make up crap to try to push their narratives. And they often don’t have any perspective. We can and should be better than that. You can call out Kinzinger’s comments without doing all of that. That’s my point.
I hear you. I agree with that. Sorry I misunderstood. 🫶
and he is not willing to take accountability for his part (every former Republican, especially one who voted in line w Trump many times, is to blame) in this. I wouldn’t want to face it either; tbh. So I think he feels the need to publicly blame Democrats for not defeating this monster.
Ntm he’s suppressing the vote w this messaging. But again, if he weren’t saying these things (I don’t even understand how he could think they’re helpful) I would continue to be grateful for the brave sacrifices he made.
Have you seen one of these white boys say “ Register Voters” or try to work with the party .. nope. Just yelling about someone else not doing something for them.. ( it was me- I used to register voters- now Adam should be doing it. I’m an 88%er and I’m tired of doing the manual labor for men)
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He’s just a troll who’s gotta keep people raging so he can go on CNN and have something to talk about. Like many in his demographic he’ll never be productive because he’ll never put in the work.
That’s fair enough, but Kinzinger has a platform and can message, too, and spending any time shitting on Democrats instead seems pretty fucking unhelpful. Like, pick one Democrat you like and talk them up instead of the negativity
This vague exaggerated “Dems are lost” BS isn’t constructive criticism. And like, what’s your grand plan to message to an electorate that would vote for this freak twice, Adam?? It’s not some easy answer Dems missed somehow, it’s figuring out how to work with an apathetic contrarian set of voters.
Again, I’m not saying not to criticize him or that post. That post definitely sucked. It’s incorrect and discourages support for Democrats. What I’m saying is, it’s not necessary or helpful to make up stuff in order to call him out. That’s the issue. bsky.app/profile/leeb...