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T. Greg Doucette @gregdoucette.bsky.social

The military could barely pacify Kabul, at tremendous cost in lives, money, and munitions That was only ~4M people, and much looser rules of engagement The military won't be able to pacify Los Angeles bsky.app/profile/mmwr...

jun 7, 2025, 9:40 pm • 517 63

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Robert Cameron @robertcameron.bsky.social

Correct. The area of Kabul is 106 square miles. The area of LA County is 4,700 square miles. Paramount (the site of today's ICE action) is in LA County not the City of LA. This place is too HUUUUGE to pacify.

jun 8, 2025, 7:39 am • 1 1 • view
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BumboJumbo @bumbojumbo666.bsky.social

Although mentioning the national guard does bring up something important Smart blue state governors should have very serious conversations with the commanders of their state national guard

jun 7, 2025, 9:41 pm • 7 1 • view
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bryan (they/them) @chaosgreml.in

Oh I’m sure they have

jun 7, 2025, 10:57 pm • 0 0 • view
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Katie (she/they) @imagine0enigami.bsky.social

Not to mention, they didn’t sign up to get deployed against their fellow Americans.

jun 7, 2025, 9:41 pm • 7 0 • view
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AR15s for Trans Teens @snoutmaster.bsky.social

The argument "they're going to send in the military" is shorthand for "the military will go door to door killing people and will saturation bomb cities with air power", which is 1. Unlikely, 2. the sort of thing that causes previously uninvolved citizens to form militias backed by rival governments.

jun 7, 2025, 10:32 pm • 86 5 • view
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AR15s for Trans Teens @snoutmaster.bsky.social

Hey remember when in the 1990s NorinCo tried to turn LA gangs into paramilitary soldiers with select fire Type 56s and antitank launchers, but they got caught and that's why you can't get ammunition or arms from China unless you get them from a Canadian collector with an ATF special form?

jun 7, 2025, 10:39 pm • 11 0 • view
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💖 @note.from.legal

not quite, they got banned after they sold missile materials to Iran archive-yaleglobal.yale.edu/content/us-i...

jun 7, 2025, 11:13 pm • 1 0 • view
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Spacewolf @spacewolf.bsky.social

Wait what?

jun 7, 2025, 11:03 pm • 0 0 • view
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💖 @note.from.legal

google Operation Dragon Fire

jun 7, 2025, 11:19 pm • 1 0 • view
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Dominic @dominic11b4.bsky.social

Also, traditionally, few things are as damaging to morale as being deployed against your population. And, good luck doing anything at all with soldiers that are engaging in malicious compliance.

jun 8, 2025, 4:10 am • 3 0 • view
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T. Greg Doucette @gregdoucette.bsky.social

No. But it's in line with Trump's insistence on targeting California and Stephen Miller's demand to raid Home Depots, so it's a reasonable conclusion there was intent IMO bsky.app/profile/just...

jun 7, 2025, 9:43 pm • 341 25 • view
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Trojan Duck @yossarian320.bsky.social

Worth noting that the Home Depot guy is a huge GOP donor and he's probably not going to like the negative PR. Could be Miller has stepped on a rake.

jun 7, 2025, 10:02 pm • 4 1 • view
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Karen H @karenmhj.bsky.social

Excellent point

jun 7, 2025, 10:56 pm • 0 0 • view
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T. Greg Doucette @gregdoucette.bsky.social

Where do you imagine these 500,000 soldiers will be housed? Where will they get gas for their vehicles? Where will they get their food? At peak US involvement in Vietnam, we had just over 500K troops in theater and it was a logistical dumpster fire bsky.app/profile/mmwr...

jun 7, 2025, 9:48 pm • 555 49 • view
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Trojan Duck @yossarian320.bsky.social

It's about 700k in the army and marines not including national guard, the latter of whom will be reluctant to fire on their neighbors. They couldn't subdue the whole country without reinstating the draft.

jun 7, 2025, 10:45 pm • 0 0 • view
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Gemini @geminidrgn.bsky.social

I can't think of a way to more thoroughly guarantee the whole thing goes south immediately than that.

jun 8, 2025, 12:48 pm • 1 0 • view
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Covid cave dweller @mariablack.bsky.social

Exactly

jun 7, 2025, 10:01 pm • 1 0 • view
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(VFP) Strategic Gravitas Reserve @braak.bsky.social

Also, I mean. To hold it from whom, and for how long? We already know how effective the US Army is at controlling local insurgent populations.

jun 7, 2025, 10:06 pm • 1 0 • view
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T. Greg Doucette @gregdoucette.bsky.social

100%. Because every person you deploy to Los Angeles cannot be deployed somewhere else. bsky.app/profile/enri...

jun 7, 2025, 9:49 pm • 439 29 • view
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Raoul Duck @raoulduck.bsky.social

Last I checked, Hispanics are a very significant proportion of the Army.

jun 7, 2025, 11:36 pm • 0 0 • view
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Integrity73 @integrity73.bsky.social

LOS ANGELES, TRUMP WANTS TO ESCALATE HIS BULLY PULPIT AGAINST THE PROTESTERS BY CALLING IN THE MILITARY WHICH IS NOT NOT NECESSARY! DON'T FALL FOR IT! THIS IS HIS PLAN!!!!!!

jun 8, 2025, 12:12 pm • 0 0 • view
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T. Greg Doucette @gregdoucette.bsky.social

Doesn't matter. Using military has the same baseline problems, coupled with even more logistical challenges, than using regular law enforcement. If anything it becomes even more of a losing proposition for the White House bsky.app/profile/socc...

jun 7, 2025, 9:55 pm • 334 20 • view
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369enthusiast.bsky.social @369enthusiast.bsky.social

i mean if we're ending liberal democracy there's substantial political risk in issuing unusual and unpleasant orders to your military as well

jun 8, 2025, 12:38 am • 0 0 • view
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T. Greg Doucette @gregdoucette.bsky.social

The Insurrection Act is not some "one weird trick!" to take over the country

jun 7, 2025, 9:56 pm • 426 42 • view
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T. Greg Doucette @gregdoucette.bsky.social

Doubt you'd ever get that. Most gun owners aren't going to open fire b/c they're not killers Blockades? Molotovs? Throwing water bottles and rocks? Far more likely – and often enough bsky.app/profile/redl...

jun 7, 2025, 10:02 pm • 310 12 • view
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The Chakra Khan @thechakrakhan.bsky.social

Thank you for giving us fact-based hope. We really are more powerful than we realize.

jun 7, 2025, 10:06 pm • 3 1 • view
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Michael Love @elkmovie.bsky.social

Don’t forget IEDs strapped to drones, which have not really been employed in urban warfare on this scale before but would make things very, very challenging for the occupying forces

jun 7, 2025, 10:54 pm • 1 0 • view
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ML2 @ml2.bsky.social

I could still see a lot of LA people with guns showing up to oppose ICE. Not all of them, or even most, but probably a non-small number

jun 8, 2025, 1:45 am • 0 0 • view
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T. Greg Doucette @gregdoucette.bsky.social

I know exactly what the military does, which is why I know the logistics are more difficult in LA than in Afghanistan, not less bsky.app/profile/socc...

jun 7, 2025, 10:09 pm • 336 15 • view
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Downtown Brandi Frown 😾 @itsthebrandi.bsky.social

There's a reason guerilla warfare is A Problem™ and if it's happening in a large metro with plenty places for people to hide???

jun 7, 2025, 10:12 pm • 64 4 • view
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Bacon Grease @bacongrease.bsky.social

And strong personal gun rights.

jun 7, 2025, 10:32 pm • 4 0 • view
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littlenomad @littlenomad.bsky.social

Might want to listen to what he’s saying here, folks. A city with buildings and alleys, cars, barricades, all kinds of things in the way and all kinds of places to hide is potentially friendly to insurgents and difficult for occupiers.

jun 7, 2025, 11:14 pm • 2 1 • view
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Tom Bigler @tsbigler.bsky.social

Plus, Iraq would be a better comparison. Iraq was an insurgency nightmare, just like LA or any major city would be. A few months of constant attacks and soldiers would start deserting or turning their rifles on the officers that keep sending them out there to face more.

jun 7, 2025, 10:14 pm • 7 0 • view
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microplastic stare @microplastic-stare.bsky.social

A key difference here is that the soldiers would not be trapped on the other side of the world, but would be able to simply leave and walk home at any time

jun 7, 2025, 10:19 pm • 6 0 • view
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T. Greg Doucette @gregdoucette.bsky.social

Easy to tell who has never worked in a large bureaucracy

jun 7, 2025, 10:10 pm • 347 4 • view
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T. Greg Doucette @gregdoucette.bsky.social

And infrastructure you want to preserve for your own use, so you can't just bomb it all bsky.app/profile/itst...

jun 7, 2025, 10:14 pm • 290 9 • view
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BumboJumbo @bumbojumbo666.bsky.social

I've been told by people before that trump would just bomb any resistance, and uhhhh if a regime starts bombing its own cities, that means it is losing.

jun 7, 2025, 10:16 pm • 1 0 • view
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T. Greg Doucette @gregdoucette.bsky.social

Maybe. The Kent State Massacre suggests otherwise though bsky.app/profile/your...

jun 7, 2025, 10:20 pm • 464 30 • view
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Craig Winston @craigwinston.bsky.social

This isn't MOVE in Philadelphia!

jun 7, 2025, 10:30 pm • 0 0 • view
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nofoco.bsky.social @nofoco.bsky.social

What's the remedy to agents provocateur like proud boys types infiltrating crowds & escalating? Like the boogaloo boys did in 2020. They killed cops, set the cop precinct on fire & everything got blamed on "antifa". The optics of "the resistance" are awfully fragile, susceptible to bad faith actors

jun 7, 2025, 10:18 pm • 0 0 • view
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Kimi 🍀☮🤘💖 @kimberleelynn.bsky.social

I'm not sure they're bright enough to figure that out ahead of time.

jun 7, 2025, 10:17 pm • 0 0 • view
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Mike Lewis @redbird9.bsky.social

Or been in the military.

jun 7, 2025, 11:10 pm • 0 0 • view
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cellerby.bsky.social @cellerby.bsky.social

General strike!!! Get the oligarchs to weigh in to stop this!

jun 7, 2025, 10:26 pm • 2 0 • view
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Cat Manning @catacalypto.bsky.social

or has lived in Los Angeles

jun 7, 2025, 10:11 pm • 13 0 • view
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T. Greg Doucette @gregdoucette.bsky.social

I can't criticize that, I've never lived in Los Angeles either 😆 But I know procurement!

jun 7, 2025, 10:12 pm • 21 0 • view
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ChiTheMonkey 🏳️‍🌈 is watching the dark on the horizon. @chithemonkey.bsky.social

Yuuuuuup. I kept thinking that, looking at all these replies.

jun 7, 2025, 10:11 pm • 1 0 • view
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Christo Silvia @christosilvia.bsky.social

Depending on how this goes I think one major question is "do grocery store owners refuse service to occupying forces"? Of course if occupying forces bring plain clothes I don't know if they can be practically distinguished from Angelinos.

jun 8, 2025, 11:55 am • 0 0 • view
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Christo Silvia @christosilvia.bsky.social

It is worth asking "what is the government's objective here?" As far as I can tell: * Bullying for its own sake * Actually carrying out deportations with ICE to keep the numbers up for Steven Miller. The logistics of actually deporting people are challenging!

jun 8, 2025, 11:56 am • 0 0 • view
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Aaron J @its-ya-boi-a-aron.bsky.social

And blockades can be a lot more effective if you know what you’re doing. And if you *know* what you’re doing, you’d be using blockades and cutting off supply lines and using your small arms forces to secure/disrupt supply lines.

jun 8, 2025, 4:16 pm • 0 0 • view
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jamestiv.bsky.social @jamestiv.bsky.social

Portland 2020 is probably a good judge of about the maximum protester escalation.

jun 7, 2025, 10:04 pm • 2 0 • view
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Louis Ingenthron @louisingenthron.bsky.social

I don't think it's about opening fire. It's about showing enough force to be able to hold the line without firing a single shot. That said, I don't think it'll happen before the feds start shooting folks because violating open-carry laws is a major escalation that puts everyone in serious danger.

jun 7, 2025, 10:05 pm • 0 0 • view
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N8 þə Gr8 @nclud.bsky.social

When this started going down yesterday, it suddenly occurred to me the very large number of left-leaning and anti-Trump people I know in San Francisco who are packing

jun 8, 2025, 11:04 pm • 0 0 • view
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Cory @cyf.bsky.social

The new protest tool should be the vuvuzela 😆 Also, this point about people not being killers is well made. Loving this thread btw 👏

jun 8, 2025, 12:10 pm • 0 0 • view
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Mel Buer @melbuer.bsky.social

Last night, they threw plates lol

jun 7, 2025, 10:10 pm • 1 0 • view
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StaffSRE1138 @sysadmin1138.net

The thing I keep coming back to is using this as a pretext to suspend Habeas, which in Admin thinking lets them yank anyone they don't like off the streets w/o court oversight. They already tried and end-run around Habeas with Abrega. An 'insurrection' gives them another angle.

jun 7, 2025, 10:01 pm • 2 0 • view
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Aaron J @its-ya-boi-a-aron.bsky.social

The prob with this admin is that he wants to be some kind of warrior-king (that doesn’t fight) but fighting in pre-Napoleonic fashion bc Napoleon realized the benefit of an administrative state to organize and coordinate resources effectively.

jun 8, 2025, 4:14 pm • 0 0 • view
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Aaron J @its-ya-boi-a-aron.bsky.social

In one sense this admin will make the history books, but if it weren’t for how we ended up making people rich and powerful here via attention and corruption, this admin would not be worth mentioning—if it was its own country, it could never rise to greatness or be noteworthy on its own it’s so bad

jun 8, 2025, 4:14 pm • 0 0 • view
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Tedra Osell @tedos.bsky.social

I believe that if they try to invoke the military there will be internal chaos. Hegseth is not well liked by DoD/troops, and being deployed against citizens would not go over easily

jun 7, 2025, 10:15 pm • 3 0 • view
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Malaclypse the Middle @malaclypse.bsky.social

Also, that's the sort of action places like Idaho might respond to.

jun 7, 2025, 10:23 pm • 0 0 • view
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Julie Faenza @juliemfaenza.bsky.social

You're also going to have a decent number of active duty military that are gonna refuse because they'll recognize it as an illegal order. I don't think people realize how much it is reinforced in the military that the military does not operate in the US against US civilians.

jun 7, 2025, 9:59 pm • 6 0 • view
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Andrew Visnovsky @soccerlawyer.bsky.social

ICE and FBI officers can quit their job at any time and not go to jail, and they’re still dooming raids. Refusing an order of a superior officer sends you to prison and gives you a dishonorable discharge that fucks up your life for the rest of your life.

jun 7, 2025, 10:01 pm • 0 0 • view
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Gemini @geminidrgn.bsky.social

So the thing about disobeying in mass is you're the boots on the ground with guns in your hands and your superiors aren't.

jun 8, 2025, 12:40 pm • 2 0 • view
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Gemini @geminidrgn.bsky.social

And in fact your superiors are in a highly precarious position for having issued or passed on an illegal order: if the regime ever falls they're gone with it.

jun 8, 2025, 12:41 pm • 2 0 • view
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Gemini @geminidrgn.bsky.social

History being written by the victor also means that punishments and non-punishments are also handed out by them.

jun 8, 2025, 12:42 pm • 2 0 • view
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Gemini @geminidrgn.bsky.social

So all you're really saying here is you expect We The People to lose and MAGA installs a 100 year reich and buddy why don't you just go dig your own grave already and lie down in it

jun 8, 2025, 12:43 pm • 2 0 • view
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Julie Faenza @juliemfaenza.bsky.social

So you're implying thr military is too stupid or to incompetent to know what an illegal order is? Good to know what you think. I'll stick with the folks who have told me what I know.

jun 7, 2025, 10:04 pm • 2 0 • view
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Andrew Visnovsky @soccerlawyer.bsky.social

No I’m saying if FBI and ICE folks who can quit their job without impunity are happy to do this shit, most military folks who would face serious consequences if they do something similar aren’t going to be taking a stand.

jun 7, 2025, 10:08 pm • 0 0 • view
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Julie Faenza @juliemfaenza.bsky.social

Sure. Plenty won't. But some will, and that means even fewer people available to try to enforce martial law.

jun 7, 2025, 10:10 pm • 3 0 • view
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Andrew Visnovsky @soccerlawyer.bsky.social

No they won’t.

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Andrew A. Gill @andrewagill.bsky.social

"They'll just do a joint op between the military, Nat'l Guard, DHS, FBI, & local cops!" It's clear Miller et al. haven't read the Mythical Man-Month but has nobody on Bluesky read it either? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Myt...

jun 8, 2025, 1:07 am • 0 0 • view
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Jared, Excited Comic Guy @jrodbad.bsky.social

It's like these people don't understand how much of a losing proposition this is for the White House to even flirt with this. Idk if these people are making doom and gloom their personality for clout or what, but it's getting really old.

jun 8, 2025, 1:14 am • 30 1 • view
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Ryan Egesdahl @deriamis.net

It’s more than that - they don’t seem to understand that they’re sowing the very division and doubt that these acts are meant to inspire. Friendly fire never helped anyone.

jun 8, 2025, 2:37 am • 10 0 • view
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Jared, Excited Comic Guy @jrodbad.bsky.social

Exactly. We need to be pushing back against them, not giving them exactly what they want. If these people want to keep with the doom and gloom, they need to stay out of the way of our fighting back. Getting in the way just means they'll get hit by shrapnel.

jun 8, 2025, 2:39 am • 5 0 • view
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Democracy Dies in Dorkness @lizamazel.bsky.social

I think people are just sort of being their amygdala with their whole chest-it's kind the same as the little voice in your head goes when it's stuck on overdrive, you know? ALARUM ALARUM ALARUM ALARUM ALARUM it's not well thought out because in that state, you're just not.

jun 8, 2025, 1:32 am • 3 0 • view
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Democracy Dies in Dorkness @lizamazel.bsky.social

Which is a good reason to be nice about it (I try), I guess, but mostly: ignore. block if needed. It doesn't help.

jun 8, 2025, 1:33 am • 3 0 • view
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Jared, Excited Comic Guy @jrodbad.bsky.social

And I totally understand being stressed about the situation at hand. Lord knows I definitely am right now. The thing is, doom and gloom is exactly what they want from us. They don't want us fighting back. We need to make their lives a living hell until they figure out that we aren't pushovers.

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Democracy Dies in Dorkness @lizamazel.bsky.social

Totes. I mean I can at least understand it from a "be alert!" pov if that's all they're trying to do--thanks, we got it, but it's fairly harmless of itself I guess. Just blocked someone who literally wrote "Martial law is coming" and "there is little or nothing you can do." "You," who?

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Democracy Dies in Dorkness @lizamazel.bsky.social

When they *actually* say "resistance is useless" I figure bad actor likelier, but not interested enough to explore more before the plonk.

jun 8, 2025, 2:19 am • 0 0 • view
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Jared, Excited Comic Guy @jrodbad.bsky.social

Indeed. Resistance is a very viable weapon against these people. They're banking on no pushback, so when we pushback, they aren't prepared for it.

jun 8, 2025, 2:23 am • 1 0 • view
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Jason E. Miller @jasonemiller.bsky.social

And members of the US military are more likely to walk away from the job.

jun 7, 2025, 11:24 pm • 0 0 • view
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Aaron J @its-ya-boi-a-aron.bsky.social

IIRC, even the Feds in the Civil War—with a higher population—relatively quickly had to turn to volunteers for reserves, greater manpower

jun 8, 2025, 4:08 pm • 0 0 • view
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MM @mmwritessf.bsky.social

They don't need to be deployed somewhere else. How many LA-level protests are happening elsewhere right now? None? Maybe one other city?

jun 7, 2025, 9:53 pm • 0 0 • view
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Katherine Thomas 🌲🏳️‍⚧️💽 @penguinpopup.dev

Also a majority of the army isn't combat arms

jun 7, 2025, 9:49 pm • 4 0 • view
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bee positive @madammem.bsky.social

Moving 500,000 troops to one point without months of planning cannot happen. That is also assuming you could find 500,000 people who are not in critical positions & that the logistics are already in place. Yes, the US can redeploy some troops quickly, but not 25% of their total.

jun 7, 2025, 10:34 pm • 119 13 • view
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bee positive @madammem.bsky.social

Seems like a lot of people don't understand that any competent military is based on superior logistics and planning, not super powered soldiers. Solider performance counts in battle, but you have to get those soliders to the battlefield first.

jun 7, 2025, 10:39 pm • 139 10 • view
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John Pontoon, dissident rando @johnpontoon.bsky.social

To wit: Russia getting its ass kicked 10 ways from Monday by Ukraine.

jun 7, 2025, 11:22 pm • 4 0 • view
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Airwolf! @airwolf.bsky.social

Well, Russia’s soldiers, equipment, and doctrine suck, but at least they have very low morale.

jun 7, 2025, 11:24 pm • 5 0 • view
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John Pontoon, dissident rando @johnpontoon.bsky.social

When N Korea donated a bunch of soldiers to the cause and the very first result was they deserted in droves, that was a right larf!

jun 7, 2025, 11:27 pm • 6 0 • view
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Kimi 🍀☮🤘💖 @kimberleelynn.bsky.social

These guys have never seen a war, except maybe a Marvel film.

jun 7, 2025, 10:47 pm • 2 0 • view
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Tyler Britten @tyler.britten.us

It’s also extra interesting when the current SecDef is one of those idiots

jun 7, 2025, 10:41 pm • 32 1 • view
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Michael Sims @peltast1.bsky.social

The US has the capability to easily and quickly send in several thousand troops. These are groups prepared for deployment anyway. A couple thousand from the Army and a couple thousand from the USMC. That's it. Larger deployments require significant preparation time.

jun 7, 2025, 10:55 pm • 5 1 • view
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Huntsville Railfan @hvillealrailfan.bsky.social

Didn't D-Day (to use an example) take months (at least) of planning and even weather forecasting to make sure it succeeded?

jun 7, 2025, 11:00 pm • 3 0 • view
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Michael Sims @peltast1.bsky.social

They were planning that a year in advance. Invading L.A. would be easier but still most of the military is not ready to pick up and go at any particular instant.

jun 7, 2025, 11:06 pm • 5 0 • view
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rdmacq.bsky.social @rdmacq.bsky.social

Wouldn't also a lot of military hardware be useless in an urban center like LA? Like, they probably don't want to destroy the city and want to keep its infrastructure, so tanks and jets are kind of off the table.

jun 8, 2025, 12:18 am • 3 0 • view
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3DollarMcdouble @3dollarmcdouble.bsky.social

They wouldn't have even finished rail ops by this point.

jun 8, 2025, 12:16 pm • 1 0 • view
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MM @mmwritessf.bsky.social

You're aware there are military bases in CA, right? 125,000 of them are already here! CA is not Vietnam. It's a billion times more accessible. C'mon. Did you really try to compare the logistics of Vietnam to California?

jun 7, 2025, 9:50 pm • 0 0 • view
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Rocky Flats Chimney Sweep 🇺🇸//↙️↙️↙️ @midlifesuezcrisis.bsky.social

yeah but everyone really liked Vietnam and generally agreed it was a good war so I'm sure doing Vietnam 2 closer to home will be fine

jun 7, 2025, 9:50 pm • 4 0 • view
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The Chakra Khan @thechakrakhan.bsky.social

Famously so

jun 7, 2025, 10:11 pm • 1 0 • view
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Ivan Hodes @chugachmtnblues.bsky.social

Vietnam was a lot of things but it wasn’t a *logistical* dumpster-fire (but I agree with the general thrust of your argument)

jun 9, 2025, 6:31 pm • 0 0 • view
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Brandon @bspencer.bsky.social

Wait. Is that Jim Amendments' music???

jun 8, 2025, 12:44 am • 1 0 • view
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micah lohr @micahlohr.bsky.social

Whether this is tactically wise or not, or even strategically possible, it seems obvious that ICE is pursuing an accelerationist policy and that this policy will enable frump to invoke the insurrection act. Why not take it to the place most likely to encounter resistance?

jun 7, 2025, 10:30 pm • 0 0 • view
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Thoughts on a Third Reconstruction 🇺🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧ @thirdreconst.bsky.social

also, I would wager most soldiers currently stationed in California aren't combat-arms, let alone readily deployable against protestors. Hell, the Army National Guard only has 45,000 combat arms *in total.* The Army has 70,000 combat arms, the Marines 120,000.

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Thoughts on a Third Reconstruction 🇺🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧ @thirdreconst.bsky.social

Unless they're sending the logistics kids and the signal corps guys out there with guns, you can't hold Los Angeles County with 235,000 soldiers, most of whom are currently stationed in Korea, Japan, Germany, Italy, Texas, and Georgia.

jun 8, 2025, 12:11 am • 1 0 • view
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The Cleric @thecleric.bsky.social

If we have to get a 3rd amendment SC case out of this, this will be the dumbest timeline.

jun 7, 2025, 10:53 pm • 4 0 • view
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Claudia Montague Wheatley @claudiamw.bsky.social

"Where will they get gas for their vehicles?" The Trump campaign deserted rallygoers at least twice: once in dangerous cold, once in dangerous heat; by not providing adequate shuttle service from rally to parking area. The second time, the buses drained all area gas stations and ran out of gas.

jun 8, 2025, 12:12 pm • 0 0 • view
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Old Soldier @oldsoldier999.bsky.social

And they're not going to send clerks, linguists, cooks, IT specialists, chemical NCO's, F-35 maintenance troops, sonar operators, bulldozer drivers, etc., etc., to stand around carrying M4's with empty magazines, radios on different frequencies, and reporting to unknown chains of command.

jun 7, 2025, 10:09 pm • 2 1 • view
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kerovon @kerovon.bsky.social

As far as I'm aware, Trump hasn't checked of violating the 3rd amendment yet from his list, so that is always an option.

jun 7, 2025, 9:51 pm • 6 0 • view
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The Chakra Khan @thechakrakhan.bsky.social

Oh my God the Constitution is just a checklist isn't it

jun 7, 2025, 10:11 pm • 4 0 • view
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thedimpsler.bsky.social @thedimpsler.bsky.social

I beg everyone who thinks this’ll be a government curb stomp to check our military’s record against decentralized urban forces and guerrilla insurgencies

jun 7, 2025, 11:59 pm • 2 0 • view
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Emily J @emexastris.bsky.social

That person is really determined to give in to fascism regardless of reality, huh?

jun 7, 2025, 9:55 pm • 1 0 • view
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Fentanyl Czar @senorgreygoose.bsky.social

And the moment an occupying army descends on LA, anyone with a rifle can interdict supply chain operations and tie it up in knots. At some point, people with nothing to lose realize they have nothing to lose.

jun 7, 2025, 10:50 pm • 2 0 • view
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metboy.bsky.social @metboy.bsky.social

"I know, we could quarter them in the houses of the locals!" Ask King George how popular that idea was.

jun 7, 2025, 9:50 pm • 4 0 • view
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Pat @parisdog.bsky.social

well, we're sort of giving a wink and a nod to the constitution right now so the 3A might be just a suggestion at this point

jun 7, 2025, 9:52 pm • 0 0 • view
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metboy.bsky.social @metboy.bsky.social

Not /quite/ my point. More that if the government acts like those rights are suggestions, than the people are more likely to treat the government itself as a suggestion.

jun 7, 2025, 9:56 pm • 2 0 • view
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Dallas Marcella @dallasmarcella.bsky.social

This Two million number is insane. They’re not calling in the navy reserve to pacify LA.

jun 7, 2025, 10:07 pm • 4 0 • view
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Ryan @ryanwithcupcake.bsky.social

It's also a weird assumption to think that all of those soldiers would be okay with killing Americans, especially when a lot of those soldiers live here. Fox News viewers might think the cities are criminal wastelands, but the marines stationed at Pendleton know what Los Angeles really is like.

jun 8, 2025, 12:07 am • 3 0 • view
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eoellrich516.bsky.social @eoellrich516.bsky.social

Not to mention the current Secretary of Defense doesn’t believe logistics is that important.

jun 7, 2025, 9:49 pm • 5 1 • view
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The Chakra Khan @thechakrakhan.bsky.social

Imagine SecDef WhiskeyBreath attempting to plan an attack. Meanwhile a student in a basement at UCLA has his Signal (probably) communications in real time. It's a wrap.

jun 7, 2025, 10:08 pm • 1 0 • view
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Star Marshall of NC 🇺🇸 🇨🇦 🇺🇦 @andrewtravler.bsky.social

Also doing something like this is a great way to bring even more people onto the streets.

jun 7, 2025, 10:11 pm • 0 0 • view
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mrpigs.bsky.social @mrpigs.bsky.social

With this bunch in DC we might all find out why they stuck #3 into the bill of rights...

jun 7, 2025, 9:52 pm • 1 0 • view
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The Chakra Khan @thechakrakhan.bsky.social

Then we look to the Ukrainian babushkas and serve them dinner with a smile.

jun 7, 2025, 10:10 pm • 3 0 • view
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bex0760 @bex7860.bsky.social

LA riots had 10k national guards sent out It was a logistical nightmare

jun 7, 2025, 10:02 pm • 4 0 • view
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Silence 🇺🇦🇺🇸 @b-dogood.bsky.social

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jun 7, 2025, 11:59 pm • 0 0 • view
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Silence 🇺🇦🇺🇸 @b-dogood.bsky.social

Military will sleep in parks. This is not a concern for them. They’ll air lift or convoy gas in. Also not an issue for them.

jun 7, 2025, 11:57 pm • 0 0 • view
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Nick Peterson @thetecheng.bsky.social

The US military does not have the ability to air lift or convoy the necessary food or fuel for 500k without extensive preparation. You need large depots. Durimg OIF the US built more than 200 miles of bulk fuel pipelines in Iraq to fuel a force 1/5 the size being discussed here.

jun 8, 2025, 12:26 am • 3 1 • view
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Nick Peterson @thetecheng.bsky.social

The military is built for kinetic operations not long term occupation and stability ops. The only way it was able to do this during GWOT was through relatively small force deployments and extensive use of contractors to fill in sustainment gaps.

jun 8, 2025, 12:28 am • 1 1 • view
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mystervui.bsky.social @mystervui.bsky.social

It's like none of these people have ever looked at the force ratios considered necessary for operations in an urban environment to go door knocking.

jun 7, 2025, 10:48 pm • 2 0 • view
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mystervui.bsky.social @mystervui.bsky.social

Congratulations you've expanded the population of LA by 50% there's no water, the population now hates you because there's no water. You heard your base back home got looted the other day but on the upside the MREs have you so constipated that you don't have to worry about the line for the shitter.

jun 7, 2025, 10:51 pm • 6 1 • view
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Joe Haydu @joehaydu.bsky.social

“Get in losers, we’re going to lose the mandate of heaven” is certainly A policy choice.

jun 7, 2025, 9:45 pm • 8 0 • view
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juststeller.bsky.social @juststeller.bsky.social

That makes sense. Thanks for responding. I’m really hating the lack of coverage on this. And, as always, worry there’s something bigger going on that we’re being distracted from.

jun 7, 2025, 9:50 pm • 4 1 • view
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Democracy Dies in Dorkness @lizamazel.bsky.social

What? What would be "bigger?" Why do people keep doing this? These people aren't subtle; we've been watching them for ten frigging years or more. It is what it is. I mean-- yeah, idk. It's quite enough without adding onto it, really.

jun 8, 2025, 1:28 am • 2 0 • view
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juststeller.bsky.social @juststeller.bsky.social

Relax.

jun 8, 2025, 1:29 am • 1 0 • view
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Lizzie_in_CA @lizzie-in-ca.bsky.social

Alot of great points here. Their incompetence is one thing we have on our side. They don’t know what they are doing. If they activate military on citizens, it will be shit show bc there is not 100% agreement in military it is legal. They can still do bad things but will not go smoothly.

jun 7, 2025, 9:48 pm • 3 0 • view
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juststeller.bsky.social @juststeller.bsky.social

True. Stepping back it did look a lot like typical Trump incompetence.

jun 7, 2025, 9:52 pm • 1 0 • view
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Kitty Chandler @mightybattlecat.bsky.social

Even if by some miracle they did manage it there’s still the entire. Rest. Of the country.

jun 7, 2025, 9:41 pm • 2 0 • view
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MM @mmwritessf.bsky.social

They don't need to police the entire rest of the country - just like they don't need to do ICE raids in every city. The vast majority of cities will not do anything.

jun 7, 2025, 9:45 pm • 1 0 • view
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Jared, Excited Comic Guy @jrodbad.bsky.social

Exactly. People need to stop with the doom and gloom and start looking at the reality of the situation. This isn't going to end how Trump and his people want it to end. This is a complete lose lose situation for him and his people, especially if he's actually serious about trying this.

jun 8, 2025, 1:35 am • 2 0 • view
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Sam Burling @wolfpacfive.bsky.social

Ahh, pretty sure the rules of engagement were not looser in Kabul, but outside that, yes to the rest. (Happy to be corrected though)

jun 7, 2025, 9:48 pm • 2 0 • view
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Micah @vtmicah.bsky.social

🤘

jun 8, 2025, 4:38 am • 0 0 • view
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René Martin @talkandplay.substack.com

Also with a far Far lower risk of defection to boot

jun 7, 2025, 9:42 pm • 1 0 • view
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laurel @dittany.bsky.social

Assessment and Action: breakdown on the LA military deployment and how it follows the authoritarian playbook. It includes concrete steps we can take now. 🔗 lfitzhugh.substack.com/p/the-author...

jun 8, 2025, 3:21 am • 0 0 • view
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Übermentions @ubermenchies.bsky.social

They did ok in '92.

jun 8, 2025, 3:34 am • 0 0 • view
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Jason E. Miller @jasonemiller.bsky.social

Except that Afghanis had less compunction about hurting an American. And American troops had less than non-zero hesitance to smack down Afghanis. So that comparison doesn't translate to the greater LA area.

jun 7, 2025, 11:22 pm • 0 0 • view
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Enrique Bedlam @enriquebedlam.bsky.social

This is also assuming that if shit goes full Posse Comitatus the odds of LA being the only city they would need to visit are pretty slim.

jun 7, 2025, 9:42 pm • 45 2 • view
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wednesday @mx0x20wednesday.bsky.social

if this actually goes hot you'll have protesters in different cities intentionally playing rope-a-dope with the fed army get rowdy in one city until they're at saturation then go back indoors and let somebody 3000 miles away carry the torch they CANNOT enact martial law on the entire country

jun 7, 2025, 10:28 pm • 103 27 • view
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sarahethelinde.bsky.social @sarahethelinde.bsky.social

Rise up!!! youtube.com/clip/UgkxKvE...

jun 8, 2025, 2:13 am • 0 0 • view
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Ken Tindell @kentindell.bsky.social

They have sworn an oath to defend the constitution. Will they even obey an insurrectionist who holds them and their values in open contempt?

jun 8, 2025, 12:02 am • 0 0 • view