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Pablo Allelli @pallelli.bsky.social

Technically the total is zero, as the French have flown one of their's to us as a swapsie.

sep 19, 2025, 1:18 pm β€’ 5 0

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Frank - Queen of Schengen πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡ΊπŸŒˆ @chillaxbcn.bsky.social

True πŸ˜‚

sep 19, 2025, 2:07 pm β€’ 3 0 β€’ view
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Sam Maclaine @sammaclaine.bsky.social

Under the pre Brexit 'Dublin Agreement' in 2018 it was 205 (only 51 to France). We took in 1215 in return πŸ€”

sep 19, 2025, 7:26 pm β€’ 0 0 β€’ view
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Pablo Allelli @pallelli.bsky.social

And? Brexit meant all previous deals were off the table. I'm not sure what point you are trying to make.

sep 19, 2025, 7:37 pm β€’ 0 0 β€’ view
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Sam Maclaine @sammaclaine.bsky.social

The point I was trying to make was that like so many things, EU wide deals often don't work in practice. Of the claims submitted by the UK EU countries only looked at 8% of them. Italy didn't even take part. Meanwhile the UK responded to far more. At least bilateral deals have a chance of working πŸ€”

sep 20, 2025, 6:08 am β€’ 0 0 β€’ view
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Pablo Allelli @pallelli.bsky.social

Whatever, but it clearly isn't working. Yesterday, over 1000 migrants crossed the channel. news.sky.com/story/more-t...

sep 20, 2025, 11:46 am β€’ 0 0 β€’ view
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Sam Maclaine @sammaclaine.bsky.social

And a number will be detained and returned to France. As was found in the US when this approach was taken by Biden, it takes time but it does work. People aren't going to spend money to end up back where they were. There isn't really an alternative approach πŸ€”

sep 20, 2025, 2:16 pm β€’ 0 0 β€’ view
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Pablo Allelli @pallelli.bsky.social

This is a completely different situation. We will only be able to send someone back to France if they have someone to send back to us, that means that the numbers are unlikely ever to be that great. It's a migrant swap scheme, not a migrant return scheme.

sep 20, 2025, 2:45 pm β€’ 0 0 β€’ view
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Sam Maclaine @sammaclaine.bsky.social

You are wrong on that. It is not based on someone that France wants to return to the UK. The UK has opened up an online legal safe route from France for people who want to claim Asylum in the UK. They are already doing so in volume. It is a balanced scheme but there will be no shortage of numbers πŸ€”

sep 20, 2025, 2:58 pm β€’ 0 0 β€’ view
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Pablo Allelli @pallelli.bsky.social

Fair enough, but if France are not choosing a specific returnee, then the deal still requires the UK to accept one of theirs, and I dare say France will have the final say on the acceptability of whoever gets sent to them. I still maintain that the scheme is a joke.

sep 20, 2025, 4:17 pm β€’ 0 0 β€’ view
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Frank - Queen of Schengen πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡ΊπŸŒˆ @chillaxbcn.bsky.social

So basically there is no point of the EU, is it? It just doesn't suit third countries like the UK.

sep 20, 2025, 6:13 am β€’ 0 0 β€’ view
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Sam Maclaine @sammaclaine.bsky.social

If I remember rightly in 2018 the UK was part of the EU. Seems as if we can make better arrangements for the UK as a third country. Seems the EU Commission is happier too πŸ˜‚

sep 20, 2025, 6:37 am β€’ 0 0 β€’ view
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Frank - Queen of Schengen πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡ΊπŸŒˆ @chillaxbcn.bsky.social

Probably you are right. Good riddance of the UK. You were always problematic. Good luck with Brexit πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

sep 20, 2025, 6:42 am β€’ 1 0 β€’ view
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Sam Maclaine @sammaclaine.bsky.social

Thanks. Getting on fine thank you. 'Relationship with the EU' is now 14 out of 15 on the YouGov survey of UK issues. The 'Brexit' drama over πŸ™‚

sep 20, 2025, 7:04 am β€’ 0 0 β€’ view
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Frank - Queen of Schengen πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡ΊπŸŒˆ @chillaxbcn.bsky.social

Excellent ratio πŸ˜€

sep 19, 2025, 7:48 pm β€’ 0 0 β€’ view