It genuinely amazes me that Rod Dreher—who is of the people who helped mainstream "Camp of the Saints" in the United States, taking it out of the domain of niche white nationalist blogs and to major pubs—doesn't see any connection to between it and what we're dealing with today.
On top of everything else, it's so extremely weird to see a far right writer... Interviewed by an extreme right platform owner... And then used the phrase lost young men "to the right" YOU TWO ARE THE RIGHT! He didn't lose anything you f****** gained them....
Being surprised that right-wingers are racist is like being surprised that Mets fans are clinically depressed.
"I spoke to Bari Weiss," for info on a topic is a red flag at this point
What's funny is that these people can't even call it what it is. They won't call it racist or fascist, they've settled on calling it 'woke right'.
Same thing happened to guys like Gingrich and Cantor, who lost their jobs to the mob they riled up.
Minor point here but lol “race-radicalism”. Because he doesn’t believe racism exists or something?
When a post starts with “I talked to Bari Weiss” the poster has clearly telegraphed their intentions I think lol
Rod is a complete freak in many ways, but chief among them is that he is the least self aware person on earth.
Rod is a bizarre and contradictory homunculus. He is not without self-awareness but he is so deeply in denial that the self-awareness flakes off like dead skin, never to leave an impression on his mind. He’s the living embodiment of the Simpsons meme.
it’s all an act, no benefit of the doubt is reasonable anymore
Dreher converted to Orthodoxy because tradcath wasn't right-wing enough for him. He now lives in Budapest. He doesn't even represent right-wing American Catholics.
Dreher has always struck me as a useful idiot to the most extreme of the far right. He makes some of their ideas more popular without himself realizing what the natural progression will be from them being more mainstream.
I used to think this about Dreher but he has been doing his purehearted altar boy act for 30 years now, pointing the mob at his enemies and then wringing his hands that someone may get hurt in all the tumult. He’s been auditioning to be the brownshirts’ pet Deplorer of Violence since 2017
Yep.
I think Dreher understands what he’s doing and saying. He writes this stuff because he likes it. He’s a right winger, white supremacist, misogynistic pig, and antisemite. These things all go together.
Is this not what you wanted, Rod?
He's not upset about the outcome.... He's upset that other people are unhappy about the outcome.
It’d be nice if he ever, once in his life, asked himself that question (he hasn’t and won’t).
What Rod mostly wants is to get out of the weird psyschosexual prison he's been trapped in his whole life.
That’s the thing with ROD, innit? All he writes about is himself yet he shows no signs of even the tiniest bit of self-awareness.
I blame all of this on Rush Limbaugh.
It's a tiny hop within extremist literature from the vile anti-immigrant sentiment that "Camp of the Saints" promotes -- one that posits there's an intentional scheme to "replace" white Europeans -- to hardcore antisemitism. All that changes is who is behind this "scheme."
Some say it's the Jews, others say it's the ((globalists))
God, I remember when he was doing this. His whole schtick of "look, of course this is a really racist book...BUT!!!!" Absolute parody-as-reality territory.
This is what I'm referring to. He wrote this in 2015. www.theamericanconservative.com/good-lessons...
Isn’t it always ultimately Da Joos for these freaks?
no
“Shocked”, huh? Who could’ve seen that coming? I guess Rod isn’t very bright or observant because this has been an issue for quite some time.
"The Even *More* Radical Right, Shockingly, a Thing That Exists, is Coming For Our Sons, Who We Totally Set Up For This"
manningkrull.com/digital-phil...
He's a filthy fucking liar, he sees.
I mean, this is the Primitive Root Wiener dude. A lack of self-awareness is assumed.
I came here to make a joke about Bari and FP going to Rod Dreher to get to the primitive root of why young right-wing men are all Nazis, but now I'm not going to bother refining the phrasing
Sorry man
Well, maybe there's a small chance that there'll be another opportunity to make a Rod Dreher joke in the future, so no worries
Dreher is one of the stupidest men who has ever lived
He's an intellectual who can reason himself to the losing end of a 50/50 coin toss 100% of the time.
Anti-semitism really is the carcinization of the far tight
The call is coming from inside *where*?
Dreher euphemizes using "race-radicalism" instead of "White supremacy" simply because he can't stop lying to himself.
I wonder how long it will take them to figure it out when they realize that the poll of you, me, and everyone we know is notoriously unreliable.
Me typing a post while wearing my hot dog costume.
What’s even the difference between the ones who are “lost” and the ones who aren’t?
The way he phrases it as “a loss of young men of the right to anti semitism” No Rod, those guys aren’t lost, they’re still firmly on the right
in fact they've found their natural home
He'd cease to exist if he had one moment of self-awareness, and on some level he knows it.
Anti-“brown”, anti-“black” and anti-“Muslim” racism is like a gateway drug — it doesn’t stop with just those hits, it grows and needs other targets too to fan the flames of hatred and keep them burning.
of course he does. he’s just a fucking liar. they’re all fucking liars.
They don’t want to.
Hot dog suit guy etc.
He's going to spin this into a need to be more bigoted against queer people and nonwhite minorities to out-compete the antisemites.
The latest in our never ending series of "Arsonists sadly reflect on the consequences of fires they started"
he doesn't sound all that sad about it
To be fair, he is both stupid and dishonest
Rod is totally dishonest and wants to save face for being blamed for the obvious outcome of his hyper reactionary anti immigrant nonsense. Perhaps he only intended it to be targeted at Muslims but COTS is as vigorously anti black and hispanic too (one “horror” is black folks sharing the white house)
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I think Rod &co really believed they could keep the racism and hatred pointed at the muslim immigrants and the LGBTQ+ community. They considered their "thread the needle critique of Saints" would mitigate the widespread application of white nationalism. Classic FAFO.