Target cities should hold military takeover referendums. Get the population on record on whether this is what they want. talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/think...
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I think we'd all be shocked & amazed at the percentage who vote in favor.
aug 26, 2025, 8:27 pm • 0 0 • view
Unlikely
aug 26, 2025, 8:44 pm • 3 0 • view
You're right. I guess I was thinking the suburbs would have a vote.
aug 26, 2025, 11:29 pm • 0 0 • view
I don't think many would, but if a majority did somehow vote for it, then what's the problem? If people in a particular place actually want to live under military occupation, then they can vote for that - fine. The problem is doing it against the will of the people having to live under occupation.
aug 26, 2025, 9:55 pm • 0 0 • view
Target cities should attack and invade any smaller MAGA-dominated suburbs.
aug 27, 2025, 3:11 am • 3 0 • view
What do you get when the National Guard of one state invades the sovereignty of another state without the request and approval of that states governor? Oh right, a Civil War.
aug 26, 2025, 7:55 pm • 24 3 • view
How about fire trucks are deployed wherever ICE shows up? Truckers with CBs can”break down” at points of egress to block the Gestapo from leaving. Then people start showing up.
aug 26, 2025, 8:54 pm • 0 0 • view
Off topic, but if Abrego Garcia is deported to Uganda, can France immigrate him and them make him a diplomat to the United States?
aug 26, 2025, 8:50 pm • 39 3 • view
Uganda has no allegiance to France, so no!
aug 27, 2025, 5:42 am • 0 0 • view
Now this is the kind of thinking we need from the Dems in Congress.
aug 26, 2025, 8:52 pm • 15 1 • view
Must say, it is the best idea I have heard in ages.
aug 27, 2025, 5:45 am • 1 0 • view
US would just name him persona non grata, but France should do that with the US ambassador there.
aug 27, 2025, 2:05 am • 1 0 • view
Consider signing. Pam Bondi & Ashley Moody corruption. Bondi & Moody's corrupt FL legacy qualified them for national office. www.change.org/p/pam-bondi-...
sep 1, 2025, 9:23 am • 0 0 • view
Omg! That would be priceless! Maybe Venezuela could make Andry Hernandez Ambassador to US.
aug 27, 2025, 2:09 pm • 0 0 • view
And you think. Trump is playing to the red and rural voters. Media-go to Memphis - Birmingham etc. and ask how safe their streets are and talk to Chicago’s Lakeview, North Center. You let Trump define the the battle. Get visual. Oops-sorry US media is a shell of itself. Work for a living.
aug 26, 2025, 10:27 pm • 1 0 • view
I like!
aug 26, 2025, 10:14 pm • 0 0 • view
Goveners should deploy their guard troups doing something far from cities and a ounce that they are unavailable.
aug 26, 2025, 9:20 pm • 0 0 • view
Yes. Blue states and blue dots need to be PROACTIVE against fascism not REACTIVE.
aug 27, 2025, 3:11 pm • 1 0 • view
They should be prepared to resist the invasion with force.
aug 26, 2025, 8:48 pm • 0 0 • view
we also need to take a page from Planned Parenthood, and have volunteer escorts. People that stand outside Home Depot’s with day laborers, or who escort people to their immigration appointments. Not just one or two people, but dozens, arms locked.
aug 26, 2025, 10:57 pm • 0 0 • view
This is a much better alternative than an outright insurrection that is expected to occur.
aug 27, 2025, 6:51 pm • 0 0 • view
🎯
aug 26, 2025, 8:18 pm • 0 0 • view
When the National Gaurd kills US Citizens, how do we go back from there? Don't say Kent State....that was 1960s. The military is losing this war against the citizens, and I fear MAGA has no clue they are going to be masaqured. They are 30%.
aug 26, 2025, 8:55 pm • 0 0 • view
Governors of democratic states with WH targeted cities should call up their National Guard to their targeted cities to control and block the Federal Government -with help from complicit Republican governors - sending their National Guard troops to occupy democratic cities.
aug 26, 2025, 8:08 pm • 20 3 • view
Came here to say this very thing.
aug 26, 2025, 9:00 pm • 4 0 • view
Go ahead and post what you were going to say it bears repeating by more than one person more than 1000 until it happens.
aug 27, 2025, 1:38 am • 0 0 • view
The governors should command them to stand down before trump gets to them.
aug 26, 2025, 11:44 pm • 0 0 • view
It’s not what I want.
aug 26, 2025, 10:07 pm • 0 0 • view
Why not just start having homegrown armed militias be everywhere the us military is? If these military members don’t get shook looking across the street at grandma and grandpa with a musket ready to put their lives on the line against a superior force nothing will and we are all doomed anyway.
aug 26, 2025, 8:36 pm • 4 2 • view
Or maybe even have local and state police arrest and prosecute the invading army. Nice is over. Fight back by any means they make necessary.
aug 27, 2025, 6:36 am • 0 0 • view
Love this idea. DC should do this too.
aug 26, 2025, 8:21 pm • 4 0 • view
That'll put a stop to it real quick
aug 26, 2025, 8:49 pm • 0 0 • view
Tbh, blue states should start forming formal state militias that are totally independent of presidential control.
aug 26, 2025, 8:40 pm • 7 2 • view
Well Constitutionally the National Guard is the Militias the Second amendment states are necessary to ensure the freedom of the states.
aug 27, 2025, 5:45 am • 0 0 • view
Not quite. By statute, the National Guard is under dual state and federal control and can be federalized. State Defense Forces are the true state-only militia: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_d...
aug 27, 2025, 10:58 am • 1 0 • view
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aug 26, 2025, 8:55 pm • 0 0 • view
Hopium's Resolutions Project from Simon Rosenberg sounds similar: www.hopiumchronicles.com/p/hopiums-re...
aug 27, 2025, 3:35 am • 1 0 • view
Rather than looking outside the box, perhaps look at US history. 1963 – 500,000 protest Vietnam war in DC 1995 – 800,000 in DC for Million Man March for Racial justice 2017 – 500,000 in DC for Women’s rights and anti DJT policy 2025 and the dismantling of US rights and freedoms - ??? in DC.
aug 26, 2025, 9:36 pm • 3 0 • view
This works while a country is operating on true democratic principles, however any unfavorable outcome, which is likely, would be discounted as fake. Referendum logistics would be limiting. Sorry, at this point Americans need to muster the will to protest like never before, this is what is left.
aug 26, 2025, 9:27 pm • 1 0 • view
It is time we start calling out the spineless republicans in Congress who are enabling trumps fascist takeover! They seem to have forgotten they don’t work for Trump….. they work for US!! Time to say “You’re fired’ #ComplacencyIsComplicity
aug 26, 2025, 8:47 pm • 0 1 • view
If you want to get really bold, blue state governors should start arresting ICE for human rights violations.
aug 26, 2025, 8:04 pm • 12 3 • view
The problem here is that in practice, you would be asking maga cops to arrest maga ice for doing what the maga cops wished they could do themselves.
aug 26, 2025, 8:11 pm • 6 0 • view
Launch MELT: The Maximizing Existing Liberties Taskforce. And hire them specifically to arrest ICE. :)
aug 26, 2025, 8:15 pm • 5 1 • view
It's on a par with asking for ice cream in hell, but I sure hope some governor reads - and acts on - what you're saying.
aug 26, 2025, 9:56 pm • 0 0 • view
Organize large groups to peacefully surround NG and ICE wherever they appear and wherever they are billeted and prevent their movement.
aug 26, 2025, 9:51 pm • 0 0 • view
That's more like it! Criticism can have meaning when it comes with a suggestion. Well done.
aug 26, 2025, 9:22 pm • 0 0 • view
some concrete things that can be done by pressuring local businesses: - deny them lodging - deny them food - deny them fuel - deny them any peace - publicly mock them...laugh at them make it hell for them...individually and organizationally
aug 26, 2025, 8:59 pm • 16 1 • view
$47 billion over four years at over a million dollars a day won't last long. I forgot to include Noam's photo ops. 🙄 What a waste of trump thinks it's his personal bank account tax dollars.
aug 27, 2025, 1:08 am • 0 0 • view
A good idea. Usually, a referendum has to have X number of signatures to be put on a ballot. Then, a special election needs to be held to be voted on. We don't have the time to accomplish this. Dear leader is talking about a couple of weeks. He's activating national guard units across the country.
aug 26, 2025, 8:10 pm • 0 0 • view
Depends on where you are located. In San Francisco a measure can get on the ballot as a referendum with signatures or by a vote of the Board of Supervisors which can happen much faster. We've already got a Trump themed special election coming up...
aug 26, 2025, 8:30 pm • 2 0 • view
I did not know that. Go San Fran! Of course, the election must be planned with all of the personnel involved. It's a matter of logistics.
aug 26, 2025, 8:42 pm • 0 0 • view
I like it, but elections are expensive, and big city budgets are already stressed, especially with Trump pulling hundreds of millions of bux from local law enforcement.
aug 27, 2025, 2:46 am • 0 0 • view
In the referendum, they should mention food, housing & mental health support. Is bringing in the Guard the most cost effective way to reduce crime? If you could reduce crime by y% would you rather have x boots on the ground or offer $100 in grocery debit cards to x00 people in need. Etc....
aug 26, 2025, 9:44 pm • 1 0 • view
Superb idea.
aug 26, 2025, 7:52 pm • 5 0 • view
What? No, that's our Governor's job. We elected him to do that. You don't need a plebiscite to ask whether you want federal troops in your city. You had that already. It was called the Governor's Race in Your State. One of their jobs is to be the Commander in Chief of their National Guard.
aug 26, 2025, 8:02 pm • 6 1 • view
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aug 27, 2025, 3:44 am • 0 0 • view
Blue governors should mobilize the guard to protect citizens from Trump's invasion
aug 26, 2025, 11:55 pm • 0 0 • view
What if the Governor called up the Guard ahead of Trump and sent them somewhere?
aug 26, 2025, 9:05 pm • 0 0 • view
This can serve multiple, helpful purposes. It's more robust and effective than polls, and percentages against clearly signal popular will and opinion. A major chunk of the regime's strategy still depends on warping public sentiment.
aug 26, 2025, 8:56 pm • 0 0 • view
Pope Leo on the streets of Chicago wearing a White Sox hat and holding the hands of immigrant children.
aug 26, 2025, 9:58 pm • 1 0 • view
Target cities should start raising Minuteman companies and channeling the Patriots of old.
aug 26, 2025, 10:32 pm • 0 0 • view
Our mayor is weak and cop-alicious. :(
aug 26, 2025, 8:49 pm • 0 0 • view
The feds don't even have the code to access the bathroom much less the buildings and comm systems. You can't takeover and keep running a City/State without cooperation of the locals. I don't think Chgo Police will even let them park near Federal Center.
aug 26, 2025, 11:35 pm • 1 0 • view
@demgovs.org @democraticags.bsky.social
aug 27, 2025, 6:20 am • 0 0 • view
What Pritzker is doing in Chicago seems almost as effective - assembling a broad coalition of community, business, faith, and political leaders. It has put Trump on the defensive to justify the invasion while setting that debate on more favorable terrain. Elections ain't cheap.
aug 26, 2025, 9:05 pm • 5 1 • view
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aug 27, 2025, 1:52 am • 0 0 • view
💯 A great idea. Would make a clear record of whether those living in the city felt crime was so high they needed troops. Could be very useful in subsequent legal efforts to force removal.
aug 26, 2025, 8:36 pm • 1 0 • view
Or Dems preemptively organize in their State a March Against Trump Invasion
aug 26, 2025, 8:16 pm • 0 0 • view
Add what they would rather the money and effort be spent on, too.
aug 27, 2025, 4:40 am • 0 0 • view
These are great ideas, I hope people are listening!!
aug 26, 2025, 8:24 pm • 0 0 • view
Beats torches and pitchforks, but I wouldn't rule them out.
aug 27, 2025, 6:41 am • 1 0 • view
Mayors should declare a general strike ...
aug 26, 2025, 8:16 pm • 1 0 • view
💯. Governors should do so as well. Shut down O’Hare and JFK. Stop the ports in LA and Baltimore. Have the software workers in Seattle who keep Amazon and Microsoft running take a few days off. Let’s bring the USA to a standstill.
aug 26, 2025, 8:51 pm • 2 0 • view
Great idea in principle but functionally impossible in the face of an "invasion" that could happen tomorrow. Elections are complicated and take time to set up, months. We elect our representatives to speak and act on our behalf - let them all speak out early and often.
aug 26, 2025, 8:17 pm • 1 0 • view
It doesn’t actually take very long. Ca is doing one for their redistricing on a few months notice.
aug 26, 2025, 8:45 pm • 3 0 • view
governors could just activate their guard now
aug 26, 2025, 8:54 pm • 0 0 • view
Sure, CA referendum via special session added to the ballot in November, 3 months, no faster anywhere else. Trump will move into multiple cities before then. What will be voted on, a resolution without legal force? Or . . . ?
aug 26, 2025, 11:45 pm • 0 0 • view
Correct! And the suggested referendum can easily be added onto the ballot. Californian here. Let’s do it.
aug 26, 2025, 8:54 pm • 0 0 • view
Non-targeted red regions should hold them too. Let them ask for takeover and have Trump The explain why they’re not getting one.
aug 26, 2025, 8:48 pm • 13 4 • view
Yep. All the focus on safer Blue state cities means red state cities where crime is higher are being neglected. The people of Oklahoma, Louisiana, Tennessee, Florida, etc are being out at higher risk of crime without fear of punishment.
aug 26, 2025, 9:29 pm • 4 1 • view
Target cities should pass poison pill ordinances that say that if local police are "federalized"—or in any way break the local civilian chain of command—the city stops paying way. No way local taxpayers should be made to pay for their own military occupation.
aug 27, 2025, 1:55 am • 15 0 • view
I’m reminded of the saying “be careful what you wish for”. You may find out that 51% either don’t care or actively support the buffoon. Do some in depth research before assuming most people think like you do.
aug 26, 2025, 9:56 pm • 0 0 • view
You mean like the Reuters poll earlier today that showed only 38% of those participating approve of deploying the military to DC?
aug 27, 2025, 12:42 am • 0 0 • view
I was referring to the next set of states to be invaded. If I’m wrong, I’ll apologise.
aug 27, 2025, 1:46 am • 0 0 • view
using what? their local election system? City? County? for when? November? April? c'mon Man??
aug 26, 2025, 11:24 pm • 0 0 • view
Do it now before armed government men are deployed to polling places.
aug 26, 2025, 8:47 pm • 0 0 • view
Hell no! Whenever the Nazis held referendums, they got their legitimization. Do not fall into that pseudo-democratic honey pot. Defend your Constitution, demand your govt. upholds it. Do not give fascists a foot in the door.
aug 27, 2025, 4:34 am • 1 0 • view
In a nutshell, from the link: "The Trump system is impunity for friends and infinite scrutiny for adversaries." Adding that the infinite scrutiny against Trump's personal opponents is paid for by taxpayers.
aug 26, 2025, 9:45 pm • 0 0 • view
Sorry, was actually from another link at TPM: talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/a-mag...
aug 26, 2025, 9:47 pm • 0 0 • view
Josh is the only marshall i acknowledge. he probably makes his own hefty gavels, too.
aug 27, 2025, 12:35 am • 0 0 • view
Because that will deter Trump?
aug 27, 2025, 5:42 am • 0 0 • view
They should have defense of the city drills.
aug 26, 2025, 11:46 pm • 0 0 • view
A Survey Monkey survey to go out via their already existing email lists. Survey qr codes on traveling/static billboards, newspapers, which can be spun up quickly - and doorhangers or postcards, which take time and manpower
aug 26, 2025, 8:51 pm • 0 0 • view
on what legal basis can trump send troops, national guard or otherwise to chicago? He'd have to declare some kind of emergency and then chicago sues and a district court forbids it. he cant send troops to any city besides dc. la proved that.
aug 26, 2025, 10:13 pm • 0 0 • view
begin in town halls and expand to state...show the colors
aug 26, 2025, 9:43 pm • 0 0 • view
Everything depends on the wording of the question. "Would you be willing to have our state National Guard assist police officers, if the result was a substantial drop in violent crime throughout the city?" gets a lot of well-intentioned "yes" votes. Many people would take that trade-off easily.
aug 27, 2025, 2:48 am • 1 0 • view