This in particular is nonsense. If someone chose to have a child, they chose to accept a duty of care over someone for many years. A child is a person, not an investment, not a thing you pay for in exchange for control. And you actually cannot possibly control what a child is exposed to.
A child is a great investment not for returns but to achieve a great human being. I think I have expressed that unless the child is closed up from life you can not stop exposure and the is the saving grace to stupid parents.
You can control what media is playing or present in your own home, but the minute they leave your home, they are out of the piece of the world you control. Rather than trying to exert control over others (including the child), your only option is to talk through and contextualize these things.
We will need to agree to disagree - I am for full exposure for children to life with guidance but they can make up their own minds. But I will not enforce my belief system on everyone else. Nor does our constitution allow for that.
It's not clear where you're getting the idea that I am arguing for the enforcement of any set of beliefs. I don't think you understand what I have written, nor do I understand your fixation on the idea that a society where we recognize our duties to each other means kids belong to the state
which was the original discussion. Other than for physical harm taking away rights of the parent is saying that the state determines how to raise a child. it would only be the beginning. (2
So, you are saying that teachers and school librarians ought to take orders from parents to conceal whichever books the parent has some paranoid delusion about? That's nonsense. Teachers have a duty to the students in their charge, not parents. This does not lead down some slippery slope
I already stated how they could do it it if is pushed but no teachers are there to teach students not raise them. This is part of the issues with education - that responsibility should be fully with the parents and then they should be held accountable when that is not done.
I'm not arguing that teachers are there to raise kids, you're arguing against a point nobody is making. I'm saying parents don't and shouldn't have the right to give orders to school employees. Teachers work for the community, not an individual parent. Being a parent isn't about gaining power.
Public employees are there to service the public...
They're there to provide the service that they are employed to provide to the people they provide it for. You can't expect the city public works employees to come fix your driveway while they're busy fixing potholes, and you can't expect the school librarian to enforce your orders
Like I said no physical harm - then no problem. Stand against their stupidity without trying to controlling how to live. (2
I'm not advocating for controlling how anyone lives. I'm advocating against the idea that a parent's whims ought to be able to dictate how school employees do their jobs. They don't get to tell teachers or school librarians how to do their jobs.
I already said no one should ban books. But if they want to forbid a library from letting them check one out that is their right - again stupid and if you do not think over time children see that then you do not give them the credit they deserve
Why do you have an issue with parents controlling what their children read? If it is the time to track, I already gave a way for that to occur with no real effort. My issue is with people wanting to always tell people how to live. (1
I have already said that public schools should be required to teach all relevant issues regardless of parental beliefs but when it comes to offering books to read from a library or teacher than the parent should be able to say no for their particular child and no one should ban a book - (1
Public schools are exposure and it is great. I would hope that all parents are involved but they are not but want control and as long as they are not physically harming the child you have no say otherwise you are supporting a child raised by the state. (2
Not sure you are reading or comprehending what I write. I agree with most of what you say but you can not interfere with a parents rights to raise a child as they deem appropriate not as you see it. (1