It's not clear where you're getting the idea that I am arguing for the enforcement of any set of beliefs. I don't think you understand what I have written, nor do I understand your fixation on the idea that a society where we recognize our duties to each other means kids belong to the state
which was the original discussion. Other than for physical harm taking away rights of the parent is saying that the state determines how to raise a child. it would only be the beginning. (2
So, you are saying that teachers and school librarians ought to take orders from parents to conceal whichever books the parent has some paranoid delusion about? That's nonsense. Teachers have a duty to the students in their charge, not parents. This does not lead down some slippery slope
I already stated how they could do it it if is pushed but no teachers are there to teach students not raise them. This is part of the issues with education - that responsibility should be fully with the parents and then they should be held accountable when that is not done.
I'm not arguing that teachers are there to raise kids, you're arguing against a point nobody is making. I'm saying parents don't and shouldn't have the right to give orders to school employees. Teachers work for the community, not an individual parent. Being a parent isn't about gaining power.
Public employees are there to service the public...
They're there to provide the service that they are employed to provide to the people they provide it for. You can't expect the city public works employees to come fix your driveway while they're busy fixing potholes, and you can't expect the school librarian to enforce your orders
Like I said no physical harm - then no problem. Stand against their stupidity without trying to controlling how to live. (2
I'm not advocating for controlling how anyone lives. I'm advocating against the idea that a parent's whims ought to be able to dictate how school employees do their jobs. They don't get to tell teachers or school librarians how to do their jobs.
I already said no one should ban books. But if they want to forbid a library from letting them check one out that is their right - again stupid and if you do not think over time children see that then you do not give them the credit they deserve
It's literally not their right to dictate who is allowed to access which materials. That's a matter of the school's discretion, not any individual's whims. A parent can tell their kid not to do something, and the kid is free to disobey. The school isn't there to enforce the parent's instructions.
Well society disagrees with you and also so would most parents. Many states have those types of laws protecting parental rights. But no one should be allowed to ban books except for their child.
Those policies do exist in some jurisdictions. The fact that a law exists does not make it right. Those laws require librarians to violate their own professional ethics, and they violate the first amendment rights of children.
Actually it is their right to attempt to control what their own children have access to. I said check out but if the child wants to sit in a library - oh well. The only discretion the school has is availability not force other than actual text books.
The school unquestionably has the authority and discretion to ignore whatever nonsense a parent says and check a book out to a child. A parent has no power or authority over a school library or school librarian. Why would being a parent mean you got to be the librarian's boss? That's moronic
Why do you have an issue with parents controlling what their children read? If it is the time to track, I already gave a way for that to occur with no real effort. My issue is with people wanting to always tell people how to live. (1
I have already said that public schools should be required to teach all relevant issues regardless of parental beliefs but when it comes to offering books to read from a library or teacher than the parent should be able to say no for their particular child and no one should ban a book - (1