You say “bad president” as if he can’t cause immeasurable harm to marginalized people in 3 years. Whether or not he’s respected, he can destroy the country & hurt a lot of people in the process
You say “bad president” as if he can’t cause immeasurable harm to marginalized people in 3 years. Whether or not he’s respected, he can destroy the country & hurt a lot of people in the process
Congress barely works as is, I don’t think they’ll delegate their actual power to JD Vance like they do Trump.
That's already happening. "That, but with a weaker more easily beatable person in charge of it" is a win.
I don't know how else to make it more plain that "President Trump" as in the character on TV is basically **god** to his legion of subhumanoid followers. If you're in a war against 'people' and there's a chance to DESTROY THEIR GOD - to burn away their FAITH, their will to LIVE, even? You take it.
OK but painting Vance as “just” someone who would be bad is minimizing what he can do. At best he’d continue what Trump is doing
He would probably back off some of the more unpopular stuff, since he doesn't and won't have MAGA behind him threatening to kill anyone who disagrees with him.
We think that, but MAGA is pretty fanatical…
Cults of personality have been extensively studied. We know how it will go.
I don’t think that’s what this is, though. It partially is, but MAGA is an evolution of the Tea Party Movement with elements of the Militia Movement & the Evangelical Christian Movement, none of which needed Trump. They’ll weaken without him, but most will fall in line
MAGA is purely Trump worship. It has no other attributes.
You are plain wrong here.
Everything else about them is long gone. Betrayed for love of their false god.
That is only under the assumption that everyone is willing to play ball with him... Which is severely unlikely.
I don't just want him to go away, I want the things who voted for him to have the hearts-full-of-hope FEELING that him sitting in *my* f---ing White House gives them about the future and their place in RIPPED OUT and stomped on, forever. I want them to SUFFER.
Fanboys will argue over a superhero getting played by a new actor. There's no way MAGA follows anyone but Trump. The whole movement falls apart when he is gone.
They said the same thing in North Korea, China, and the USSR. MAGA has too much power now for Trump’s death to stop it.
Please, they keep getting Ls.
You people are useless. Oh yes, they took an L. How? Some judge issued an injunction he’ll ignore? Some dude dunked on him really hard? OK. They’re still in power & still deporting everyone & stripping more & more rights away by the day, but one neighbourhood kicked ICE out so it’s all over for them
I’m just saying their grasp on power is way more tenuous than you think.
You’d think that if you didn’t really study this topic
The only person who failed to study seems to be you. MAGA fractures when Trump ends up in Hell.
Dude. PLEASE fuck off with that noise. I'm in the Confederate South and I don't roll over for these chumps. MAGA is a cult of personality, and there's no one to tak ethe reigns. These people bought TRUMP shirts, not VANCE shirts or even REPUBLICAN shirts.
I think it's important to correctly assess where your opponents are and where you are. We are not, for example, 3 generations into a military dictatorship dynasty. You get it? It's not great, but the tools exist to combat it. You can't believe in Trump more than Trump believes in Trump.
The Republicans aren't doing all that they're doing unsubtly because they think it's never gonna be over, but because they know the window to do it all is closing. It's possible to fight back, but it's NOT possible to fight back while trying to convince others and yourself that it's impossible.
North Korea effectively replaced their personality cult with another one, and China & USSR destroyed theirs just to survive as states. I won't rule it out with regards to MAGA, but do you really think Donald Jr.'s gonna be able to rally that cult given his lack of personality?
They don’t need another personality. They just need to keep the propaganda machine going & keep hurting the people that MAGA hates
They have to rally around a PERSON to feed the propaganda machine. It's not happening with Junior or Vance.
The *only* person in the sphere I could see doing it is Joe Rogan, and even then I don't think he has the charisma to keep the MAGA masses placated for very long. And he seems perfectly content making a personality cult out of the Austin, TX comedy scene anyways.
But Jordan Peterson's lack of charisma was well noted even before he flamed out, Ben Shapiro's too intellectual, Elon Musk wasn't born in America (and most of MAGA hates him too 💀) & anyone else is either too much of a politician or too much of a fly-by-night grifter to even bother with.
I guarantee you that they do. The cult won't just rally around anyone; if they would Trump would've been abandoned already.
Well, I want a Good President but the time for that was in November. That's over now. Now we're talking about the size of the damage. And if you can't see the the difference between "A Bad President" and "14 million people starved to death and we're tumbling into the next Great Depression"...
...like i dunno. I'm not trying to get you to like JD Vance, if that's what you think. It's just that Trump dying and him being President is the best case scenario outside of like A Decapitation Event. Like what do we do, root for Trump to live?