JUDGE COLLEEN KOLLAR-KOTELLY: Is there an administrator of DOGE at the present time? GOVERNMENT COUNSEL: I don’t know the answer to that
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Judge Kollar-Kotelly grilled counsel for the government on DOGE's command structure. Counsel repeatedly said he didn't know the answer to her questions. The judge said the questions are relevant bc she has concerns about whether DOGE is operating constitutionally under the Appointments Clause.
feb 24, 2025, 8:51 pm • 3,916 677 • view
one of the people works for Transunion as well as Doge. remember when Transinion told to access your credit rating, freeze credit rating receive free credit monitoring from a possible release of personal info. they question plaintiff said standing because there was no public release of info by doge
feb 24, 2025, 9:03 pm • 3 0 • view
DOGE is not a legal or official US GOVT entity. No one elected Musk and the Senate did not confirm anything called DOGE.
feb 24, 2025, 9:09 pm • 0 0 • view
I am not defending Doge. just saying the kind of access the DOGE Transunion employee has would have at the LEAST called for credit monitoring etc. Making a case for plaintiff’s standing
feb 24, 2025, 9:14 pm • 1 0 • view
This is a freaking NO BRAINER! DOGE is not a thing! It has no administrator because it's not a department!!!!!!
feb 24, 2025, 10:49 pm • 0 0 • view
She is an excellent Judge. I remember when she was starting at the US District Court for DC - because I used to work there. Her concerns are completely valid. The counsel for the government is either stupid or cannot answer for very obvious reasons.
feb 24, 2025, 9:18 pm • 15 0 • view
Not only does the Emperor have no clothes, he doesn’t even exist!
feb 24, 2025, 8:57 pm • 15 1 • view
Should ask counsel why she’d come to court so unprepared to answer questions.
feb 25, 2025, 1:30 am • 3 0 • view
Here we go…
feb 25, 2025, 7:54 am • 2 0 • view
If the thugs cannot answer such a question, the judge should assume that the thugs are in violation of the appointments clause.
feb 24, 2025, 9:32 pm • 12 1 • view
Can she flat out halt things til she gets answers?
feb 24, 2025, 8:57 pm • 11 0 • view
They are failing to show cause why the whole scheme shouldn't be indefinitely halted, since they can't even show who is responsible for it. The only conclusion one could draw is that the responsible party is a non-authorized extra-legal actor who must be banned from the premises
feb 24, 2025, 9:02 pm • 24 2 • view
Legal malpractice much, Counsel?!?!
feb 24, 2025, 8:52 pm • 10 0 • view
I'm gonna go out on a limb here and suggest that perhaps they aren't.
feb 25, 2025, 6:56 pm • 17 0 • view
Then bring someone in who can answer or put people in jail for contempt
feb 24, 2025, 9:34 pm • 12 0 • view
They're going to go for the Sanity Clause aren't they??? youtu.be/6u8AgUXPpLM?...
feb 24, 2025, 10:08 pm • 3 1 • view
I’d watch at least five seasons of this
feb 24, 2025, 11:45 pm • 1 0 • view
How is it possible that the lawyer wouldn't know these answers? Why would they come before a judge and try to defend things they don't even know or understand? Isn't that unethical?
feb 24, 2025, 8:52 pm • 755 28 • view
How is the court not immediately shutting it down?
feb 25, 2025, 3:06 pm • 11 0 • view
The answer is illegal
feb 25, 2025, 12:21 am • 2 0 • view
I imagine lying to a judge is bad and telling the truth leads to losing. But being stupid does neither.
feb 24, 2025, 9:10 pm • 2 0 • view
this is the answer. and through millions of iterations of this brain-rot, the Doublethink George Orwell described so well takes hold
feb 24, 2025, 10:06 pm • 0 0 • view
They know the answer, they just don’t want to say it.
feb 24, 2025, 9:04 pm • 4 0 • view
it's entirely possible; in fact, it happened. they know they can't provide answers that do anything other than hurt them, so a decision has been made to play stupid
feb 24, 2025, 10:04 pm • 0 0 • view
If the lawyer can't answer and won't answer, then the judge can rule against them right then and there...
feb 25, 2025, 1:43 am • 2 0 • view
You assume the wall matters
feb 25, 2025, 1:05 pm • 0 0 • view
They want Elon to be in charge when he says "do this" but they don't want him to be in charge when being in charge leads to consequences. DOGE & Elon would like authority without corresponding obligations.
feb 24, 2025, 8:58 pm • 35 1 • view
I'm pretty sure early America has something to say about no taxation no representation. Ah, slips my mind.
feb 25, 2025, 11:43 am • 2 0 • view
Send him home. Tell him to come back tomorrow when he knows the answer.
feb 25, 2025, 9:23 pm • 0 0 • view
They are "just following orders." Those who don't know the context of that little phrase might want to read a little about WWII.
feb 24, 2025, 10:03 pm • 4 0 • view
Protecting Musk.
feb 25, 2025, 5:10 pm • 0 0 • view
This^
feb 24, 2025, 10:06 pm • 0 0 • view
A lawyer never asks their client if they're guilty.
feb 24, 2025, 11:31 pm • 2 0 • view
Can the president be subpoenaed?
feb 24, 2025, 10:13 pm • 0 0 • view
Sounds like a solid way to be sanctioned under Rule 11
feb 24, 2025, 9:11 pm • 3 0 • view
the lawyer is under orders to not say that elon musk is in charge, doesn't know of any true thing to say other than that, and is not willing to actually lie to the court
feb 25, 2025, 12:23 am • 0 0 • view
Isn't saying he doesn't know also a lie?
feb 25, 2025, 12:24 am • 1 0 • view
elon is not in charge because it has been said that he is not in charge, but also nobody else appears to be in charge, so perhaps nobody is in charge? who can know? from what i've seen being a conservative seems to require the ability to wholly believe contradictory things
feb 25, 2025, 12:27 am • 2 0 • view
Most of the lawyers who operate based on ethics & logic have been fired from the federal government. The lawyers who remain don’t care about such things.
feb 24, 2025, 10:15 pm • 2 0 • view
I think the attorneys drew straws and this attorney lost.
feb 24, 2025, 10:04 pm • 2 0 • view
Deniability.
feb 24, 2025, 10:03 pm • 2 0 • view
Incompetence is MAGA
feb 24, 2025, 10:09 pm • 1 0 • view
The whole point is to dodge the law so if nobody is actually running the show on record then there’s nobody to arrest
feb 25, 2025, 1:08 am • 9 1 • view
The mafia does this
feb 25, 2025, 1:08 am • 4 0 • view
The case names more than just the DOGE admin, AFAIK — so the lawyer is presumably representing those parties too, such as the treasury secretary in his official capacity. Whats really unethical is to pretend like you just didn’t think to ask, and not that DOGE is intentionally trying to hide…
feb 24, 2025, 8:57 pm • 7 0 • view
Thank you. That puts very clearly what I was thinking.
feb 24, 2025, 8:57 pm • 2 0 • view
I would need a cigarette if the judge asked him then why the fuck are you here?
feb 24, 2025, 8:56 pm • 25 0 • view
because nobody's told them, because they drew the short straw as human sacrifice, and yes, respectively.
feb 24, 2025, 9:39 pm • 6 0 • view
Because the entire strategy is to undermine the functioning of government. The lawyer can't give an answer because there's intentionally nobody.
feb 24, 2025, 10:55 pm • 0 0 • view
DOGE is not a legal or official US GOVT entity. No one elected Musk and the Senate did not confirm anything called DOGE.
feb 24, 2025, 9:07 pm • 2 0 • view
Of course it’s unethical. The lawyer knows that the answer is “Elon Musk is illegally in charge”. But they cannot say that so they duck.
feb 24, 2025, 8:54 pm • 937 41 • view
It’s Barron Trump
feb 24, 2025, 10:32 pm • 0 0 • view
But Trump says it daily. So as a lawyer I’m bringing that up. Elon runs it. We already know it. The judge should operate on that premise and shut it down.
feb 25, 2025, 3:07 pm • 1 0 • view
That's lying by omission.
feb 24, 2025, 8:59 pm • 320 6 • view
It’s not a lie to say “Musk is not, legally, the administrator of DOGE.” It’s just that—as everyone in the room knows—that means DOGE is being illegally run by someone who isn’t its legal administrator.
feb 24, 2025, 10:33 pm • 8 0 • view
aka failing at one’s duty of candor to the tribunal
feb 24, 2025, 9:16 pm • 6 0 • view
The Trump Admin released a letter publicly stating that Elon Musk is "not the administrator of DOGE." They know fully well they have not met their Presentment Clause obligations, it's not even omission at this point.
feb 24, 2025, 9:06 pm • 418 15 • view
I kind of want state AGs to start convening grand juries on the data theft. If there are official FEDERAL papers denying Elon is anything then he has no business collecting our private data to his AI servers or equivalent.
feb 24, 2025, 9:38 pm • 20 1 • view
A grand jury is ostensibly for a criminal indictment-- I'm not sure there's a need for that at the state level. What really must happen to save the Republic is for Congressional Republicans to grow spines and undertake DOGE's mission themselves. The Legislature controls spending.
feb 24, 2025, 9:57 pm • 7 1 • view
Time is of the essence and crimes are ongoing.
feb 24, 2025, 9:58 pm • 0 0 • view
I would hesitate to think that there are grounds for prosecuting someone like Elon Musk at the state level based on DOGE's activity. Any charge of sedition would come at the Federal level, and DOJ will obviously not cooperate at this point. Congress is the appropriate check on this imbalance.
feb 24, 2025, 10:00 pm • 1 0 • view
I have no hesitation. If DOGE can’t explain itself to the DOJ attorneys assigned to defend DOGE, there is probably a lot of crime happening under the auspices of DOGE and some of it may be within state jurisdiction. The federal prosecutors and investigators won’t be permitted to investigate DOGE.
feb 24, 2025, 10:06 pm • 2 0 • view
There is not a single aspect of DOGE's "mission" that is coherent, let alone one which any other government entity should undertake. DOGE just needs to be smashed like a bug, scraped off our shoe, and forgotten.
feb 24, 2025, 10:07 pm • 8 0 • view
I disagree: If Congress wants to take it upon itself to review federal spending and make exhaustive cuts to it, that's essentially what they do in the normal course of setting the federal budget. Congress can and may compel federal agencies to report on spend and testify on mission and budget fit.
feb 24, 2025, 10:12 pm • 1 0 • view
I think we all need to stop pretending that DOGE's destruction has anything to do with budgets.
feb 24, 2025, 11:29 pm • 6 0 • view
DOGE as it exists is an Unconstitutional overreach that destroys the Separation of Powers. If Congressional Republicans roll over, Congress no longer serves the people of United States any meaningful purpose and we cease to be a Constitutional Republic.
feb 24, 2025, 9:58 pm • 6 1 • view
All this talking. WHAT-ARE-WE-GOING-TO-DO-ABOUT-IT? Judge A can rule blah blah blah. Judge B can write injunction yada yada yada. So f'n WHAT! It's all a bunch of bullshit and everyone knows it. They have no intention of complying and they OWN law enforcement, so you tell me. ALL of you!
feb 24, 2025, 11:17 pm • 1 0 • view
We need to prioritize winning back the Legislature and State Houses. I personally think the Trump Administration's approach is slowly but surely self-defeating. I do not think most Americans support this Administration's behavior. The problem is that most CONGRESSpeople do. They must be replaced.
feb 24, 2025, 11:30 pm • 2 0 • view
I love your passion but, let me tell you. The Orange Turd and his MAGA lackeys have NO INTENTION of a mid-term election. Not that they would actually adhere to it. You see, THAT groundwork was laid 4 years ago! Rigged, RIGGED! You might get a blue state or two but red, no. Constitutional Crisis!
feb 24, 2025, 11:36 pm • 2 0 • view
So... Am I hearing that he may not be covered by qualified immunity?
feb 24, 2025, 11:16 pm • 3 0 • view
Probably not, but I'm unsure what specific law he has violated that would warrant some criminal prosecution for his conduct while working at DOGE. A person can behave in an Unconstitutional manner without being a criminal expressly.
feb 24, 2025, 11:28 pm • 0 0 • view
feb 24, 2025, 11:37 pm • 0 0 • view
Private citizens can't prosecute him. They can, however, sue him.
feb 24, 2025, 11:48 pm • 1 0 • view
Sure, then yes: I can't imagine he'd have qualified immunity from civil liability if DOGE is found Unconstitutional. Although again, I'm not what Constitutional harm us citizens could claim. The Unconstitutional nature of DOGE doesn't, to my eye, give rise to Article III standing for individuals.
feb 24, 2025, 11:53 pm • 0 0 • view
There's no statute of limitations on the student visa fraud he committed. It fraudulently led him to citizenship. We can deport Musk. We don't have to live like this.
feb 25, 2025, 5:41 am • 1 0 • view
And then Trump explicitly states he put Musk in charge of DOGE so..
feb 24, 2025, 9:11 pm • 218 4 • view
It's like the governmental version of evil hand syndrome. One hand keeps lighting a cigarette only for the other hand to snuff it out.
feb 25, 2025, 12:07 am • 3 0 • view
And Musk walked onto a stage at CPAC at the weekend waving a chainsaw around in front of a banner that said “The Dogefather”
feb 25, 2025, 12:14 am • 4 0 • view
Right, and I would assume most federal judges can see right through the "not an administrator" administration. The great issue we have today is that Congress has done nothing to stop it and we're left with judges doing the dirty work.
feb 24, 2025, 9:13 pm • 239 8 • view
I know this comment is UK based but I really hope it is time to buy a lettuce
feb 24, 2025, 9:17 pm • 241 4 • view
Curious, what does the expression “buy a lettuce” mean?
feb 24, 2025, 9:20 pm • 28 2 • view
It refers to the fact that the Star newspaper successfully kept a picked lettuce head fresh and viable for longer than Liz Truss lasted as prime minister
feb 24, 2025, 9:22 pm • 215 2 • view
Refers to the former PM, Liz Truss, lasting in office less time than it took a head of lettuce to rot once the obvious scandals started dropping
feb 24, 2025, 9:22 pm • 8 0 • view
Former PM Liz Truss's tenure was parodied with a head of lettuce as to which would last longer...the lettuce won.
feb 24, 2025, 9:22 pm • 10 1 • view
www.nytimes.com/2022/10/19/w...
feb 25, 2025, 2:29 am • 2 1 • view
Unfortunately no. We are in a lot deeper shit than that.
feb 24, 2025, 11:15 pm • 38 0 • view
... ah, a deep fried lettuce...
feb 24, 2025, 11:26 pm • 28 0 • view
Yep. And I'm still praying to wake up to all news stations playing Swan Lake on a loop.
feb 24, 2025, 9:55 pm • 6 0 • view
The Judge read this into the record.
feb 24, 2025, 9:26 pm • 6 0 • view
Read what into the record? I'm confused. Things are moving fast.
feb 24, 2025, 9:28 pm • 1 0 • view
Presumably the Administration's previous filings indicating Musk is not the administrator at DOGE: www.reuters.com/legal/white-...
feb 24, 2025, 9:30 pm • 2 0 • view
The DOJ's statement that Musk isn't an employee or admin of DOGE. Then she went through all of the tweets and even the statement of Trump where he specifically said that he put Musk in charge of DOGE. She came in with receipts!
feb 24, 2025, 9:32 pm • 12 0 • view
Damn. I had heard her name before but I didn't remember anything other than it's a clunky-sounding name. Now I will remember how she's handled this at least. lol
feb 24, 2025, 9:33 pm • 4 0 • view
Good! I'll have to wait for the transcript but here's hoping she draws the most negative inference possible from their shell game.
feb 24, 2025, 9:28 pm • 5 0 • view
🎯
feb 25, 2025, 2:05 pm • 1 0 • view
I think it is just plain lying at this point. EVERYONE knows who runs DODGE.
feb 25, 2025, 12:19 am • 2 0 • view
They *can* say that, but *choose* not to. That lawyer deserves to be fined, at the very least.
feb 24, 2025, 10:47 pm • 3 0 • view
Actually, I can believe this. I don’t think DOJ attorneys know WTF is occurring with DOGE and that is by design. This is NOT a defense but rather an analysis of how shady DOGE is. That said, no federal judge will buy the DOJ’s BS.
feb 24, 2025, 9:48 pm • 6 0 • view
wild to spend a couple centuries building up a presumption of good faith on the part of the government in court, and then trash it all in the course of a month
feb 25, 2025, 12:50 am • 4 0 • view
I don’t have the entire history of the DOJ in front of me but the principle you state is dead on. The DOJ has completely thrown away its credibility in court. Ironically, this is a good thing because judges will be far less inclined to give them what they are asking for in other cases.
feb 25, 2025, 12:52 am • 6 0 • view
They know. They just refuse to say.
feb 24, 2025, 10:32 pm • 0 0 • view
"Why would they...?" Ambition, a sense of entitlement, or expectation of immunity?
feb 24, 2025, 9:38 pm • 2 0 • view
DOGE is comprised almost entirely of SGEs and its very likely not an organization with an administrator so much as its literally just a bunch of dudes following Elon’s orders. They can’t answer questions about DOGE structure because on paper, there simply isn’t one.
feb 24, 2025, 9:15 pm • 5 0 • view
Really? Call Johnson in. He seems to know. bsky.app/profile/atru...
feb 25, 2025, 1:03 pm • 1 0 • view
It's more that they aren't a witness and can't get a straight answer from their client. I suspect he genuinely has no clue what is going on bc of all the contradicting statements made. Judge should ask for a declaration under penalty of perjury from WH.
feb 24, 2025, 9:31 pm • 7 0 • view
I’m not a legal mind or anything but I’m gonna guess no
feb 24, 2025, 9:49 pm • 12 0 • view
Trump’s lawyer will do everything possible to stonewall the Judge. I also think they aren’t prepared for the fight that’s coming from the opposition
feb 25, 2025, 3:05 am • 0 1 • view
Inept people or stupid, certainly sly like a fox 🦊
feb 24, 2025, 9:36 pm • 1 0 • view
These lawyers are just put in place to lie Delay Deny
feb 24, 2025, 9:01 pm • 4 0 • view
If they can’t answer who is leading them. Then they need to all be stopped, arrested, and charged
feb 24, 2025, 9:00 pm • 19 0 • view
Throw the AG in jail
feb 24, 2025, 10:19 pm • 1 0 • view
I've seen a lot of "I don't know" from the government's lawyers in the various hearings. These judges should unanimously take these omissions as inferred guilt and shut it all down until the government lawyers give them real answers.
feb 24, 2025, 11:03 pm • 4 0 • view
Why doesn't/can't the judge order the government to produce a list of DOGE employees then have them come in to the court and testify under oath as to who they report to?
feb 24, 2025, 10:36 pm • 4 1 • view
For a group that is so hell-bent on descreating our way of life, they sure do feign ignorance at an almost embarassing rate?
feb 24, 2025, 9:30 pm • 6 0 • view
So is she going to compel them to find out and then answer?
feb 24, 2025, 11:59 pm • 2 0 • view
I would have called a fifteen minute recess, told govt counsel to make some calls and if they didn't come back with the answer to an absurdly simple question they would face sanctions.
feb 24, 2025, 10:44 pm • 40 0 • view
Or Simmerly rule against them!
feb 25, 2025, 7:16 pm • 1 0 • view
Thats summarily ‼️‼️🤗
feb 25, 2025, 7:17 pm • 1 0 • view
Wow
feb 24, 2025, 9:03 pm • 2 0 • view
If the attorney can’t answer the questions, she should direct someone who can answer them to appear forthwith and be put under oath.
feb 24, 2025, 9:18 pm • 0 0 • view
This is why Trump wants to fire all the competent JAG lawyers & replace them with incompetent, unethical, amoral, white, sycophants. He doesn't want a competent lawyer w/ real information 'cause their answer would be: he's breaking the law, violating the constitution & screwing over Americans.
feb 24, 2025, 11:03 pm • 9 0 • view
If no one knows who is in charge, then you have to consider that all these people are independent actors. They should all be subpoenaed to come in and explain what they are doing, and who gave them permission to do it. If no one gave them permission. Charge them with all applicable crimes.
feb 24, 2025, 10:01 pm • 19 1 • view
Someone will inevitably say Musk and/or Trump ordered them to do it. Both will be bad (for them).
feb 24, 2025, 10:50 pm • 2 0 • view
Or, better yet, arrested and charges with espionage.
feb 24, 2025, 10:49 pm • 6 0 • view
State crimes, hopefully
feb 25, 2025, 12:34 am • 0 0 • view
"You don't know who the Administrator of DOGE is? Do you even know who you're representing?"
feb 24, 2025, 10:54 pm • 28 1 • view
Keyser Soze
feb 25, 2025, 7:59 am • 2 0 • view
#FireMusk
feb 24, 2025, 8:53 pm • 2 0 • view
Ok, so what? What happens as a result of this and how is it any good to America?
feb 24, 2025, 11:20 pm • 4 0 • view
(spoiler: it's not)
feb 24, 2025, 10:16 pm • 4 0 • view
If there is no administrator of DOGE, how can Musk be the “acting” administrator of DOGE? Isn’t that how Republicans usually get around having to have Senate confirm their people?
feb 24, 2025, 8:54 pm • 22 3 • view
A glimpse into the power hierarchy of current Executive branch of our government. The more we learn, the more we see how glaringly unconstitutional DOGE is. Where are the pitchforks to stop this coup? GOP is complicit. bsky.app/profile/ronf...
feb 25, 2025, 2:01 pm • 0 0 • view
gonna go out on a limb and say AI is the administrator, which is one way to get around saying they don't know. because it isn't a 'who'.
feb 24, 2025, 9:02 pm • 3 0 • view
AFAIK the admin won’t need confirmation regardless. But speaking loosely, they don’t want to name Musk because that makes the lawsuits tractable — as it stands, it’s hard to stop DOGE legally because they don’t really exist beyond an ephemeral “orders of the president”
feb 24, 2025, 9:00 pm • 15 1 • view
So DOGE is only *acting* like a Constitutionally created agency, therefore a Congressional vote to create it was never necessary. Like a ghost gun of sabotage, it was created illegally, has no serial number/doesn’t officially exist, but it can effectively do damage. How long before SCOTUS approves?
feb 24, 2025, 9:28 pm • 3 0 • view
More explicitly: they have repeatedly claimed Musk is just a powerless *advisor*, and you can’t sue an advisor in their official capacity — they’re not responsible for any final decision.
feb 24, 2025, 9:00 pm • 13 1 • view
Great, then all the individual agents can be charged with espionage. Along with house Republicans.
feb 24, 2025, 10:50 pm • 3 0 • view
DOGE is not a legal or official US GOVT entity. No one elected Musk and the Senate did not confirm anything called DOGE.
feb 24, 2025, 9:07 pm • 5 0 • view
The former US Digital Service was renamed the US DOGE Service. The USDS is an entity within the Executive Office of the President.
feb 24, 2025, 9:19 pm • 0 0 • view
How come USDS still has a website that hasn’t been changed to DOGE? usds.gov
feb 24, 2025, 9:33 pm • 3 0 • view
… and why is USDS hiring at a time when government is supposed to be getting smaller? I guess that IS DOGE but still sort of disguised as USDS? They’re hiring loyalists to the new regime? DOGEbags are sketchy AF.
feb 24, 2025, 9:45 pm • 3 1 • view
www.whitehouse.gov/presidential...
feb 24, 2025, 9:50 pm • 0 0 • view
See Section 3 of this OE
feb 24, 2025, 9:50 pm • 1 0 • view
Thx. Lots of use of the language “shall” and “temporary” Just confused about the “publicly” renaming but leaving USDS . gov website unchanged.
feb 24, 2025, 9:57 pm • 2 0 • view
Section 5 just CYA? “This order is not intended to, and does not, create any right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable at law or in equity by any party against the United States, its departments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, or agents, or any other person” WTF?
feb 24, 2025, 10:08 pm • 0 0 • view
Yes. Just a cya.
feb 24, 2025, 10:22 pm • 1 0 • view
Not sure this makes it a legal department if the US GOVT.
feb 24, 2025, 11:42 pm • 2 0 • view
New development! bsky.app/profile/andr...
feb 25, 2025, 6:17 pm • 0 0 • view
Everything, absolutely purely everything in our govt is sketchy af. I refuse to acknowledge doge as anything legal unless & until it’s proven to be so.
feb 24, 2025, 11:47 pm • 3 0 • view
Musk: Still not Senate Confirmed.
feb 24, 2025, 10:50 pm • 1 0 • view
Agree. But not sure that the head of the U.S. Digital Service was a senate confirmed position. I think the bigger issue is that DOJ lawyers have disclaimed Musk being the head of DOGE. They refuse to say who is.
feb 24, 2025, 10:58 pm • 2 0 • view
Musk isn't the acting administrator of DOGE
feb 24, 2025, 9:03 pm • 0 0 • view
He’s just a WH “advisor” right?
feb 24, 2025, 9:49 pm • 0 0 • view
Special Government Employee
feb 24, 2025, 9:52 pm • 0 0 • view
Judge Judy would have called a recess and let them return with a real answer.
feb 24, 2025, 9:15 pm • 5 0 • view
Almost every federal judge I have appeared before would have sliced me open and drained my blood for a non-answer of that kind of material — and basic — question. Was she, umm, perturbed??
feb 24, 2025, 10:53 pm • 17 0 • view
Sanction counsel
feb 24, 2025, 10:15 pm • 14 1 • view
This what contempt is for: you lawyers made a mockery my time, so you'll cool it here in a cell until your bitch bosses bring a fucking org chart...
feb 25, 2025, 5:38 am • 8 1 • view
So what happens now? Is she going to do something to actually force them to answer or keep allowing this game to go on?
feb 24, 2025, 10:47 pm • 0 0 • view
I guess I would say okay we are staying here until you can tell me who is giving the orders. Have your lawyers make calls, I'll wait.
feb 25, 2025, 1:36 am • 4 0 • view
How can the lawyer not know who their client is?
feb 24, 2025, 9:11 pm • 5 0 • view
Because he hasn’t been told. It’s part of the strategy. If he doesn’t know, he can’t lie.
feb 24, 2025, 9:21 pm • 7 0 • view
This shows utter contempt for the law and the proceeding they are involved in today.
feb 24, 2025, 9:38 pm • 8 0 • view
unfortunately judges have no remedy for such contempt
feb 24, 2025, 9:45 pm • 3 0 • view
At what point does “IDK” become contempt?
feb 25, 2025, 1:47 am • 89 2 • view
He’s pleading the fifth, wait…..
feb 25, 2025, 4:07 am • 10 0 • view
How can they be operating constitutionally without congressional authorization for their expenses, let alone without a discernible administrator in charge? And the judge has “concerns” which is pretty much how we got here
feb 24, 2025, 10:18 pm • 4 0 • view
If the lawyer for the government cannot answer those questions, that's a pretty clear signal that DOGE is illegitimate.
feb 24, 2025, 9:20 pm • 84 1 • view
THIS
feb 24, 2025, 9:34 pm • 7 0 • view
Does it matter?
feb 25, 2025, 1:03 am • 0 0 • view
Apparently it doesn't, although it should...
feb 25, 2025, 1:36 am • 1 0 • view
feb 24, 2025, 8:56 pm • 0 0 • view
Kind of thinking that the answer to the judge's question is "no."
feb 24, 2025, 9:21 pm • 3 0 • view
Question: does the judge want Counsel to return with the answers? Or is she just going to let it slide?
feb 24, 2025, 10:50 pm • 2 0 • view
So I take it we still don't know who the DOGE administrator is. Keep it up, Anna--I have confidence you're going to break this story!
feb 24, 2025, 9:14 pm • 3 0 • view
Would be nice to go Perez and call out the attorneys for the lie. They have to know. They just don’t want to answer.
feb 24, 2025, 8:53 pm • 1 0 • view
please tell me the judge in the end said something to the effect of, "Well, if you don't know, you have 24 hours to find out and report back."
feb 24, 2025, 9:33 pm • 13 0 • view
24 hours in jail to report back🤷🏻♂️
feb 24, 2025, 11:17 pm • 2 0 • view
I would prefer I will be holding you in contempt until you are able to answer that question Bailiff please take her away.
feb 24, 2025, 10:19 pm • 5 0 • view
Just slap them with an injunction until they identify all the relevant individuals and authorities related to DOGE.
feb 24, 2025, 9:21 pm • 6 0 • view
Narrator: DOGE is *not* operating constitutionally under the Appointments Clause.
feb 24, 2025, 9:45 pm • 25 1 • view
I hope the narrator has Morgan Freeman's voice.
feb 24, 2025, 10:39 pm • 13 0 • view
I was hearing that as Ron Howard, but Morgan Freeman works too.
feb 24, 2025, 10:55 pm • 9 0 • view
Of course. That's a rule. 😀
feb 24, 2025, 10:41 pm • 5 0 • view
Helen Miran
feb 25, 2025, 6:14 am • 1 0 • view
oh this is also perfect.
feb 25, 2025, 7:21 am • 1 0 • view
Can't believe no one has brought up Sir David Attenborough yet 🤷😃
feb 25, 2025, 1:25 pm • 0 0 • view
That's because I have him chained up in my basement to narrate all my audiobooks. So, naturally, he's unavailable for other projects. :D
feb 25, 2025, 1:42 pm • 1 0 • view
Wouldn't this lead to a contempt action against the attorney and their client in a normal situation?
feb 24, 2025, 9:15 pm • 8 1 • view
That attorney should lose his bar license, IMO!
feb 24, 2025, 9:22 pm • 1 0 • view
Listening to this is enraging. This guy is so casual as he talks about people’s private information. I’d like every question to be framed around his personal info. “If counsel’s information we’re to be released…”
feb 24, 2025, 8:58 pm • 33 3 • view
www.cisa.gov/sites/defaul...
feb 25, 2025, 3:44 pm • 0 0 • view
www.myerslawgroup.com/understandin....
feb 25, 2025, 3:41 pm • 0 0 • view
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
feb 24, 2025, 11:26 pm • 0 0 • view
All the gaslighting just goes to show how important this question is - so, who is the hero saving all that money (from waste and fraud) for the American taxpayer? :)
feb 24, 2025, 8:57 pm • 4 0 • view
If the governmental structure/authority is unknown, ipso facto it is illegitimate. This isn’t a garage based startup.
feb 24, 2025, 9:22 pm • 52 2 • view
Even a garage-based startup could answer these questions clearly enough for the judge to understand.
feb 25, 2025, 6:58 pm • 1 0 • view
Musk would never raid a garage startup. He waits until they have a successful product before sacking management.
feb 25, 2025, 6:09 am • 3 2 • view
Putin-Musk-Trump is the chain of command. DUH
feb 24, 2025, 8:52 pm • 16 0 • view
feb 24, 2025, 10:54 pm • 5 1 • view
Don't forget Thiel
feb 24, 2025, 8:59 pm • 8 0 • view
It’s the “baffle ‘em with bullshit” strategy no ?
feb 24, 2025, 9:32 pm • 4 0 • view
Judge: who is in charge? gov lawyer: Who? He's on first. judge: What? gov: He's playing second judge: Who? gov: I told. He's on first.
feb 24, 2025, 9:12 pm • 38 0 • view
I don't know....third base
feb 25, 2025, 12:22 am • 1 0 • view
"Is USDS an agency?" -Judge Kollar-Kotelly "I don't know your honor" -DOJ Counsel
feb 24, 2025, 9:36 pm • 19 2 • view
Surreal. To this layperson, it sounds akin to showing up to court without knowing the identity of one of your clients — and the central one to the case, at that. In any normal case, that would be a big fuck up… Regardless, thanks for keeping us updated on Schrodinger’s Administrator!
feb 24, 2025, 8:55 pm • 11 1 • view
‘Counsel repeatedly said he didn’t know the answers to her questions.’ Demand that he get the answers!
feb 24, 2025, 9:19 pm • 5 0 • view
Happy to help her out with an answer to that question.
feb 24, 2025, 9:05 pm • 0 0 • view
Did she demand an answer be provided by a specific time?
feb 25, 2025, 3:49 am • 4 0 • view
“Bailiff, whack his pee-pee!”
feb 24, 2025, 9:38 pm • 7 0 • view
She's absolutely on fire. "The President can't just decide that payments are improper through an executive order"
feb 24, 2025, 9:29 pm • 55 3 • view
DOJ counsel is amazingly unprepared to answer basic questions which he absolutely should have foreseen. I love it.
feb 24, 2025, 9:02 pm • 16 1 • view
Perhaps because Trump deflects, tells lies, and waffles around when he is asked questions counsel has no idea how to answer the judge.
feb 24, 2025, 10:04 pm • 4 0 • view
yeah, but they're usually trained in waffling and avoiding. This guy was all "I don't know. Not prepared for this question."
feb 24, 2025, 10:07 pm • 3 0 • view
They know it's Musk, and ultimately trump. These lies they are continually allowed to get away with is what is destroying this country -- ITS THE LIES
feb 24, 2025, 11:03 pm • 11 0 • view
is there a contempt behavior in here somewhere?
feb 24, 2025, 11:56 pm • 3 0 • view
if counsel isn’t able to answer the questions then get Musk in court to respond.
feb 24, 2025, 8:54 pm • 9 0 • view
Who is appearing for the DOJ in these cases? Their names should be out there so people know if one of their friends or neighbors is an unethical lawyer.
feb 24, 2025, 9:01 pm • 13 0 • view
It’s not! How can a judge have questions?? 👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼👇🏼 DOGE is not a legal or official US GOVT entity. No one elected Musk and the Senate did not confirm anything called DOGE.
feb 24, 2025, 9:06 pm • 17 0 • view
she needs to have it recorded that she asked the questions and what the answers were, though - I'm sure she reads the newspapers like anyone, but she's got to base decisions on facts presented (or not presented) to her in court. "How (the bleep) can you not know?" is a valid followup, too. :)
feb 24, 2025, 10:25 pm • 3 0 • view
Understood. My frustration gets the best of me.
feb 24, 2025, 10:48 pm • 0 0 • view
I get it entirely, it's *so frustrating* especially since the answer to "wtf is DOGE even" gets inconsistent answers. But - especially with something this high-profile that the administration and probably the Supreme Court will be looking for any excuse to rip apart - she needs to be meticulous.
feb 24, 2025, 10:51 pm • 2 0 • view
In the UK the information commissioner would have shut DOGE down within seconds for so many data breaches
feb 24, 2025, 9:26 pm • 9 0 • view
But here we are with felons running the country.
feb 24, 2025, 11:44 pm • 4 0 • view
Exactly - the question is why in hell is it running at all!
feb 24, 2025, 9:12 pm • 3 0 • view
Exactly.
feb 24, 2025, 10:50 pm • 1 0 • view
Related: This in the in NY $80M stolen FEMA funds against Trump & Al. bsky.app/profile/samh...
feb 24, 2025, 9:06 pm • 48 6 • view
Looks like Jane DOGE has got some explaining to do 👀
feb 24, 2025, 9:38 pm • 27 0 • view
John DOGE. They'd never let a woman be in charge! That would be ridiculous!
feb 24, 2025, 11:52 pm • 11 2 • view
Nah once shit starts going down they love to point fingers at women and POC.
feb 25, 2025, 12:33 am • 5 0 • view
feb 25, 2025, 1:34 am • 2 0 • view
Would be DEI. Not based on merit.
feb 25, 2025, 12:04 am • 1 0 • view
Firstly, all I see are people talking. My question is more direct. Seriously folks, what are WE going to do about it? YOU and ME! If you walked down a street and ignored a cop's commands, what would happen? There is NO difference. These ASSHOLES have NO intention of complying, so, what do we do?
feb 24, 2025, 11:15 pm • 4 0 • view
You poor naïve little Americans it is being run out of Moscow
feb 24, 2025, 10:05 pm • 3 0 • view
We're aware.
feb 24, 2025, 10:07 pm • 10 0 • view
Judges love this kind of thing, evasive non-answers, unethical conduct.. really making friends I bet.
feb 24, 2025, 10:38 pm • 21 0 • view
Not Steve Davis, Musk’s top lieutenant and cost cutter with no government experience? Where’s his paperwork?
feb 24, 2025, 11:42 pm • 4 0 • view
Hopefully these judges will stop taking "I don't know" for an answer very soon.
feb 24, 2025, 8:54 pm • 32 1 • view
... And she is right.
feb 25, 2025, 5:50 pm • 1 0 • view
Man, they are just screwing with you specifically now...
feb 24, 2025, 8:54 pm • 0 0 • view
is it crazy to hope that judges will issue TROs until an administrator is revealed ?
feb 24, 2025, 8:50 pm • 0 0 • view
So now it's Keystone Counsel representing the US Gov🙄🤦
feb 24, 2025, 11:28 pm • 3 1 • view
A rapist and a druggy.
feb 25, 2025, 12:07 am • 0 0 • view
The judge should have adjourned for 15 minutes and order counsel for the government to get an answer. No answer the judge should throw the attorney in custody until they answered.
feb 25, 2025, 1:40 am • 26 0 • view
Why aren’t lawyers just quoting Trump? www.reuters.com/world/us/tru...
feb 25, 2025, 3:15 pm • 18 0 • view
Arm Ukraine 🇺🇦
feb 24, 2025, 8:56 pm • 0 0 • view
LOL, these overconfident jackasses keep making it up as they go along and thereby making utter fools of themselves…
feb 25, 2025, 1:51 am • 0 0 • view
Is the administrator of DOGE in the room with us right now?
feb 24, 2025, 10:07 pm • 4 1 • view
Then, why in the fuck are these motherfuckers defending something they can’t defend and why is the judge allowing it?
feb 24, 2025, 9:23 pm • 1 0 • view
Are we actually paying these lawyers?
feb 24, 2025, 10:42 pm • 0 0 • view
His name is A.I. (Administrator Idiot)
feb 25, 2025, 7:47 am • 1 0 • view
Can the counsel be in trouble for lying to a judge. Everyone in the world knows Musk is running that show.
feb 25, 2025, 1:32 am • 2 0 • view
Oh so all those firings were illegal and staff who were fired can sue the govt now?
feb 25, 2025, 12:29 am • 3 0 • view
Oh… a judge somewhere is going to get to the bottom of this. And it may be her.
feb 25, 2025, 7:53 am • 1 0 • view
All these judges are finding out that DOGE is the plot of Secret of My Success come to life: a new college grad shows up at a workplace, claims an office, starts giving orders, and everyone's afraid to question it
feb 26, 2025, 3:38 am • 0 0 • view
Read: Gov’t counsel does not how to pronounce any Cyrillic letters, words, or phonemes. It’s a Trump/Musk government feature, not a bug.
feb 24, 2025, 10:33 pm • 1 0 • view
Someone please give her a copy of Project 2025 & call the authors in.
feb 25, 2025, 12:57 pm • 0 0 • view
Could the lawyer be sanctioned for not preparing for this question?
feb 24, 2025, 8:52 pm • 1 0 • view
If there isn’t an administrator, then Trump is it by default. Although, frankly, anyone who let these idiots in the front door without that authorization should be fired
feb 24, 2025, 8:53 pm • 1 0 • view
If there is no administrator then she should order it to stop all work until there is.
feb 24, 2025, 10:22 pm • 2 1 • view
Sounds like “inherent contempt.” Throw him in jail
feb 24, 2025, 11:54 pm • 4 0 • view
They don’t want to give an answer since they know the person is illegally firing people. Got it.
feb 24, 2025, 10:16 pm • 2 0 • view
It's more fundamental. They operate on behalf of an agency that is legally a non-entity, so all their actions are null and void...
feb 25, 2025, 1:45 am • 1 0 • view
Putin
feb 24, 2025, 8:44 pm • 2 0 • view
That’s not an acceptable answer after this question has been asked by judges multiple times.
feb 24, 2025, 9:09 pm • 1 0 • view
He knows the answer is Musk.
feb 24, 2025, 9:38 pm • 0 0 • view
So stop DOGE until the person making DOGE decisions visits the court room and provides documentation that they, not Musk, is making the decisions. POTUS said it was Musk just a couple of days ago right?
feb 24, 2025, 9:07 pm • 3 0 • view
Deflect and deny!! Time to shut it down!!!
feb 24, 2025, 8:46 pm • 4 0 • view
📌
feb 24, 2025, 10:08 pm • 0 0 • view
“Okay, it should only take a quick phone call to find out. You have 210 minutes. If you return without an answer then it’s illegal.”
feb 25, 2025, 1:10 am • 6 0 • view
Dang it. 20 minutes*
feb 25, 2025, 1:45 am • 5 0 • view
210 was so weirdly specific. 😉
feb 25, 2025, 2:30 am • 6 0 • view
So when do the tweets and truth social posts be entered into record showing the mobster bait and switch these assholes are pulling?
feb 25, 2025, 12:31 am • 33 0 • view
Then shut it the fuck down!!!
feb 25, 2025, 10:24 am • 13 0 • view
She needs to order an evidentiary hearing. Bring in Musk and the woman who submitted the affidavit saying he wasn't in charge, put them under oath, and see what happens. Enough hide-the-ball BS.
feb 24, 2025, 10:55 pm • 7 0 • view
America has fallen.
feb 24, 2025, 10:10 pm • 0 0 • view
Plus, who’s paying for Doge minions? Congress didn’t approve that.
feb 25, 2025, 12:28 am • 3 0 • view
Shut it down!!
feb 24, 2025, 8:33 pm • 0 0 • view
Does Big Balls have a chaperone?
feb 24, 2025, 10:58 pm • 1 0 • view
No disclosure no honor. Block the fake doge! Don’t waste taxpayers money on the foolishness! The country will be in complete turmoil in a week due to this nonsense!!!
feb 24, 2025, 8:40 pm • 2 0 • view
Would be ironic if the DOGE administrator turns out to have accidentally fired himself.
feb 24, 2025, 9:52 pm • 4 0 • view
Gov’t Lawyer had to know this would be a question.
feb 24, 2025, 9:08 pm • 0 0 • view
There’s video of trump saying it’s elon so I hope that gets tossed in there.
feb 24, 2025, 8:35 pm • 34 1 • view
along with some alttruth social posts I assume
feb 24, 2025, 8:39 pm • 8 0 • view
Might be, but he has stated on camera, more than once, musk runs doge.
feb 24, 2025, 8:44 pm • 5 0 • view
Just based on that Bullshit Answer The Judge needs to Shit that Bullshit Down
feb 24, 2025, 10:10 pm • 1 0 • view
"DOGE is the most transparent organization that has ever existed." "Who's in charge of it?" "Can't tell you."
feb 24, 2025, 10:01 pm • 153 23 • view
"we .. we... We..."
feb 24, 2025, 10:19 pm • 4 0 • view
Jesus, the Catholic Church is more transparent than Elon Musk and his imaginary DOGE.
feb 24, 2025, 10:43 pm • 73 1 • view
That's....that's saying a LOT!
feb 24, 2025, 11:52 pm • 14 0 • view
All right, let’s start disbarring some these lawyers now.
feb 24, 2025, 9:32 pm • 12 0 • view
feb 24, 2025, 10:14 pm • 15 0 • view
lol
feb 24, 2025, 10:21 pm • 1 0 • view
🤣
feb 25, 2025, 2:18 am • 1 0 • view
It's vladimir putin.
feb 24, 2025, 8:37 pm • 1 0 • view
This is some kafkaesque bs. Either musk is not the administrator of doge has *no* authority on fed workers, or he *is* the administrator and thus liable for all abuses/harassment happening under him. Hope they set a useful precedent here. It’s unconstitutional to shield musk like WH is trying to
feb 25, 2025, 1:18 am • 7 0 • view
This is what's been bugging me the most. DOGE doesnt have any official status, does it? Who is paying for it? Who is paying the people who are working for it? Musk is "in charge," but who actually has the authority to speak for DOGE?
feb 24, 2025, 8:38 pm • 29 1 • view
From what I understand, and correct me please if I have this wrong, but trump seems to have taken another legit agency that had some slightly similar purpose and made it DOGE. He also announced that Musk and Vivek would run it, but Vivek left, so that leaves Musk.
feb 24, 2025, 8:42 pm • 3 1 • view
However counsel has specifically stated that Musk is not running DOGE...
feb 24, 2025, 8:56 pm • 1 0 • view
He just said he doesn't know, though.
feb 24, 2025, 9:01 pm • 2 0 • view
Apparently the current US government position is that Musk is the only person we know is *not* running DOGE...
feb 24, 2025, 9:23 pm • 0 0 • view
Correct they put it on the US Digital Service and they renamed the US Digital Service DOGE. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...
feb 24, 2025, 8:47 pm • 3 0 • view
And I have to wonder if it's still legitimately doing the job it was established by congress for.
feb 24, 2025, 8:50 pm • 3 0 • view
There it is! Thank you
feb 24, 2025, 8:49 pm • 2 0 • view
Right? The idea that it’s just some unpaid volunteers randomly mucking about is laughable
feb 24, 2025, 8:41 pm • 2 0 • view
The official story on its legal status changes depending on which rules they're trying to bypass at the time. It's a rebrand of the US Digital Service (a real department) when they want to avoid some regulations, and an independent advisory board when they want to avoid others.
feb 24, 2025, 8:46 pm • 37 2 • view
So the government counsel for the agency does not know if anyone is in charge of the agency he’s representing? Recess the hearing and tell it to come back tomorrow with an answer.
feb 25, 2025, 2:25 am • 9 1 • view
Why doesn’t she close it down til the answer is transparent and clear to all?
feb 24, 2025, 10:59 pm • 0 0 • view
Sounds like they’re not an essential government operation then if the employee isn’t “competent” enough to run two neurons together and name its administrator.
feb 24, 2025, 10:03 pm • 3 0 • view
feb 25, 2025, 3:37 am • 0 0 • view
A smelly jail cell has wondrous effects on memory I hear.
feb 24, 2025, 9:15 pm • 2 0 • view
Disbar
feb 24, 2025, 9:01 pm • 1 0 • view
I thought Judge was extremely “generous” to these govmt attys with their “I know Nothing” and “we don’t think this matters” answers. Plus 2 weeks to “CYA” a reverse engineered “Administrative Record” to submit. Maybe we will get real admin NAME of Dumbass Oligarchs Gutting Everything Bureau. 🧐
feb 25, 2025, 1:29 am • 4 0 • view
Put him in a holding cell with his phone. You have one hour to get me the name of the head of doge or you lose your phone and I pit you in an actual cell.
feb 24, 2025, 9:14 pm • 4 0 • view
Someone call scooby doo?
feb 24, 2025, 8:44 pm • 3 0 • view
The judge:
feb 24, 2025, 9:24 pm • 0 0 • view
Why don’t you sit in this ell and think about it?
feb 25, 2025, 1:23 am • 1 0 • view
If there is no administrator, no one in charge, individual DOGE members should be brought in to court to defend their actions, and tell us all why they are not breaking the law.
feb 24, 2025, 9:19 pm • 10 0 • view
Or, who told them to break the law.
feb 25, 2025, 5:34 am • 3 0 • view
TV cameras just picked the mysterious administrator fleeing the scene. It’s… it’s… Doge J Simpson
feb 24, 2025, 9:22 pm • 10 0 • view
Nobody does, so I guess keep breaking the law then. Loophole unlocked.
feb 24, 2025, 11:06 pm • 0 0 • view
I mean how hard is this? A group with this much power has no leadership??
feb 24, 2025, 9:42 pm • 0 0 • view
The Dept of Justice RN:
feb 24, 2025, 10:36 pm • 3 0 • view
STAY TUNED TO THE NEXT EXCITING EPISODE OF “WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON!? Z”
feb 25, 2025, 4:16 am • 19 0 • view
DOGE doesn’t really exist!
feb 25, 2025, 12:15 am • 2 0 • view
That should be an instant sanction. Counsel ought not to mislead the Court.
feb 24, 2025, 11:36 pm • 14 0 • view
Then who the fuck is your client, counselor?
feb 25, 2025, 12:45 am • 77 1 • view
Ed Martin. Who has not a clue who he works for and insists on sending threatening messages to people demonstrating that fact...
feb 25, 2025, 1:46 am • 37 2 • view
Right??!!
feb 25, 2025, 7:15 am • 0 0 • view
If the administrator does not appear, can the judge rule that they lose the case due to their failure to respond? Yes, the attorney is there, but the attorney can't say who they are representing, so the administrator is still a no show.
feb 25, 2025, 12:13 am • 2 0 • view
Jude: “Okay, you have another three weeks to think about your answer and get back to me. This is URGENT Counsel!!”
feb 24, 2025, 8:35 pm • 10 0 • view
Well, if Musk isn't really Doge, then he's just goldbricking and we need to #FireMusk immediately.
feb 24, 2025, 8:44 pm • 8 0 • view
Am thrilled someone else besides me knows the term goldbricking. I just explained this term to someone at work.
feb 25, 2025, 5:27 am • 2 0 • view
Can we not just make a few of these F’s spend the night in jail for a change?
feb 24, 2025, 11:16 pm • 1 0 • view
I don’t know the answer to that….😂 Wow, Can you believe this is our f’n government? Did public education really fall this far from when I was going to school?
feb 24, 2025, 11:15 pm • 0 0 • view
Showing up at this hearing without a clear answer to such an obvious question seems, uhhh, bordering on contemptuous?
feb 24, 2025, 9:26 pm • 7 0 • view
The judge should tell the gov't, "I'm going to take a 10 minute recess. When we reconvene, you will either have a direct answer to my question, or I will hope to on contempt." Lock them up until they have an answer.
feb 24, 2025, 9:18 pm • 8 0 • view
Just say it. An unappointed dark money donor was given this role as part of a corrupt quid pro quo. Elon paid money to deregulate his business interests and achieve his own policy preferences.
feb 24, 2025, 11:03 pm • 33 3 • view
Somewhere, somebody is just dying to get this off their chest once and for all.
feb 25, 2025, 1:28 am • 4 0 • view
I didn’t think I could hate someone more than The Leaning Tower of Fatso but this spoilt little brat has form & good odds to over take him.
feb 25, 2025, 7:34 am • 4 0 • view
How is his acceptable? Can/will a judge direct the US govt (repped by DOJ counsel) answer?
feb 24, 2025, 11:40 pm • 1 0 • view
"I want an answer to that question by 5:00 p.m. or I will be holding you in contempt."
feb 24, 2025, 9:15 pm • 3 0 • view
How can they fucking not know? The judge needs to sanction them.
feb 24, 2025, 8:36 pm • 28 1 • view
Because it's so shoddy and unstructured there's no answer.
feb 25, 2025, 6:55 am • 0 0 • view
Because they do know and are lying.
feb 24, 2025, 8:41 pm • 32 0 • view
You may be giving them too much credit.
feb 24, 2025, 9:37 pm • 1 0 • view
Possibly!
feb 24, 2025, 9:42 pm • 1 0 • view
At that point, if I was the judge, I would have said: “Why are you wasting the people’s and my time ? I suspect you already know the answer, but you were instructed to stall. We will recess for 1 hour, after which you will present to this court the answer to my question or be held in contempt.”
feb 24, 2025, 10:07 pm • 193 6 • view
Actually no. I’m holding you in contempt rn. for wasting my time. The court knows you know this answer.
feb 25, 2025, 3:17 pm • 8 0 • view
www.cbsnews.com/news/this-is...
feb 26, 2025, 12:23 am • 0 0 • view
“trump said” is meaningless. The trump and the truth don’t know each other.
feb 25, 2025, 11:22 pm • 0 0 • view
In court though, where this is, it does matter what he has said. The gov lawyers just yesterday said they had no idea who was running it. Couldn’t give the judge an answer. Which is why this announcement today about the person “overseeing” it.
feb 26, 2025, 2:24 am • 0 0 • view
Couldn’t or wouldn’t ?
feb 26, 2025, 2:57 am • 0 0 • view
I mean we all know the answer is musk, I just don’t know why the judge doesn’t. They cannot say and will not say.
feb 26, 2025, 2:59 am • 1 0 • view
Why do you think they petrified of trump ? They would sell their own mothers to please trump.
feb 26, 2025, 4:48 am • 0 0 • view
I agree….I actually wish these judges would give them NO leeway. They’ve dicked around every step of the way. Enough is enough.
feb 25, 2025, 6:14 pm • 3 0 • view
I really don’t understand it, at all.
feb 25, 2025, 9:24 pm • 0 0 • view
Not 1 hour, 1 minute
feb 25, 2025, 1:42 am • 2 0 • view
You’re right. 😉
feb 25, 2025, 2:20 am • 1 0 • view
EXACTLY!!! Push back on these scumbag tactics. Either the lawyer is inept and should face the sanctions or they are purposefully lying to the court.
feb 24, 2025, 10:56 pm • 64 0 • view
Or both.
feb 24, 2025, 11:29 pm • 22 0 • view
feb 25, 2025, 6:28 am • 6 0 • view
Listening to this. Fascinating. Gov attorney has not clue about anything and can't answer any of her questions re Musk, DOGE, etc.
feb 24, 2025, 8:34 pm • 104 3 • view
She appears to be on the verge of holding that DOGE is unconstitutional ("ultra vires"). Certainly, she's establishing that DOGE has no named administrator, and the Gov attorney has no idea who runs it.
feb 24, 2025, 8:41 pm • 185 8 • view
Judge says "I would hope that by now we'd know the structure *of DOGE)."
feb 24, 2025, 8:42 pm • 109 1 • view
Gov atty: No standing and no concrete harm. Judge is pushing back a bit. Right now, she's just probing.
feb 24, 2025, 8:50 pm • 42 0 • view
Discussion now of "final agency action." Gov atty says there hasn't been any "final agency action," so DOGE actions cannot be challenged at this time.
feb 24, 2025, 9:01 pm • 33 0 • view
I take it this is a term of art? Because if it were plain language, I feel like firing someone is pretty final.
feb 24, 2025, 9:24 pm • 26 0 • view
Seems like the structure is Elon tweets something or whispers it to a DOGE staffer who whispers it to someone at the 2nd level of a govt. agency. Either that 2nd level person does it or is forced to resign. All official actions officially come from within the agencies.
feb 25, 2025, 5:25 am • 1 0 • view
They eliminated an entire agency (USAID) and left the employees stranded in some cases in very dangerous situations.
feb 24, 2025, 11:05 pm • 1 0 • view
Yes, it is. Someone with more experience than me w federal law could explain it better. But it's sort of like "you can't stop a work in progress, you have to wait for the finale."
feb 24, 2025, 11:10 pm • 2 0 • view
Unclear whether DOGE has fired anyone, or whether they ordered an agency to do so, and without putting it in writing.
feb 24, 2025, 10:16 pm • 9 0 • view
People have been fired, that's pretty final.
feb 24, 2025, 9:50 pm • 0 0 • view
That's right.If nobody knows who the hell is running it, get them OUT of the government's business immediately. Hiding the ball doesn't cut it in this case. If you don't know who is running things, it could be a foreign enemy. Put up or get booted.
feb 24, 2025, 9:10 pm • 2 0 • view
Just shut down everything they're doing if they can't or won't identify who's in charge.
feb 25, 2025, 4:14 pm • 16 1 • view
How dare they come unprepared for this hearing knowing very well what was going to be asked of them. The courts, Congress, the American people. We are all sick and tired of 45s continuing to be a loop hole jumper. It’s time someone, anyone, make him accountable for the destruction of our country.
feb 25, 2025, 2:01 am • 9 0 • view
Again?!
feb 24, 2025, 8:33 pm • 0 0 • view
Matt Walsh looks like a real POS
feb 25, 2025, 7:19 am • 4 0 • view
Lucky you if you've never had the incredibly unfortunate experience of encountering this particular douche weasel
feb 25, 2025, 11:16 am • 3 0 • view
No I had not. I'm starting to feel real dirty learning about all these POSs 💩
feb 25, 2025, 6:09 pm • 1 0 • view
They are very greasy, to be sure
feb 25, 2025, 6:13 pm • 1 0 • view
That alone should mean that any and ALL "doge" operations should be immediately shut down.
feb 24, 2025, 11:06 pm • 54 0 • view
feb 24, 2025, 8:37 pm • 0 0 • view
That is not acceptable. The government is structured so we can always identify the chain of command and who is in charge. This answer is contempt of court.
feb 24, 2025, 8:40 pm • 67 1 • view
NO ONE GETS IN TO SEE THE DOGE ADMINISTRATOR!
feb 24, 2025, 9:26 pm • 14 2 • view
There is, it’s Musk. They just don’t want to admit that in hopes he can avoid responsibility for the massive damage they’re doing. It won’t work.
feb 24, 2025, 9:35 pm • 1 0 • view
What a let down, am I right?
feb 24, 2025, 8:35 pm • 0 0 • view
The *real* administrator of DOGE was the friends we made along the way!
feb 24, 2025, 8:41 pm • 3 0 • view
Can these lawyers be disbarred? I don’t know what it takes for them to lose their license to practice law.
feb 24, 2025, 10:52 pm • 0 0 • view
You did it! Sort of.
feb 24, 2025, 8:32 pm • 3 0 • view
Why wouldn’t she declare a 15-minute recess for counsel to get on the horn to get answers?
feb 24, 2025, 9:23 pm • 4 0 • view
feb 24, 2025, 8:55 pm • 0 0 • view
That literally Elon’s Dad.
feb 24, 2025, 11:47 pm • 2 0 • view
🤣🤮
feb 24, 2025, 11:49 pm • 3 0 • view
Follow up question is: Can you find your elbow, or your ass?
feb 25, 2025, 4:27 pm • 5 0 • view
Another ass related stupidity quip that my grampie liked- "He couldn't find his own ass with both hands and a flashlight"
feb 25, 2025, 10:34 pm • 1 0 • view
They are trolling her too
feb 25, 2025, 2:30 am • 1 0 • view
Well, at least they're honest.
feb 24, 2025, 11:12 pm • 0 0 • view
Saw this and was like "does the OP know that lady who's always screaming WHO IS THE ADMINISTRATOR OF DOGE????" and lol. Yes. I see you've met (yourself)
feb 24, 2025, 9:31 pm • 1 0 • view
Judge: ‘What are you?’
feb 25, 2025, 12:35 am • 1 0 • view
This is legal rope-a-dope delay, one of Trump's favorite things to do. DOGE's work will be done and the identity of the Administrator will be moot by the time DOJ responds. If I were judge, I'd slap a TRO on everything DOGE to give them time to "clarify" who is in charge.
feb 24, 2025, 9:50 pm • 51 1 • view
It's Big Balls, isn't it?
feb 24, 2025, 8:39 pm • 8 0 • view
feb 24, 2025, 9:59 pm • 4 0 • view
feb 25, 2025, 2:11 am • 0 0 • view
yet they’re still too cucked to do a damn thing about it. so what good does this do us?
feb 26, 2025, 3:50 am • 0 0 • view
one question she should ask: is the administrator of dodgy an AI program/system/implementation/thing?
feb 24, 2025, 9:54 pm • 10 0 • view
That is not legally possible. AIs do not have personhood and cannot be administrators.
feb 25, 2025, 3:50 am • 1 0 • view
Unless there is something stating otherwise, I bet they’re trying to get away with just that.
feb 25, 2025, 3:51 am • 1 0 • view
It's Musk, they are just lying about it because that would expose him to the possibility of scrutiny
feb 25, 2025, 2:08 pm • 3 0 • view
How can there be when congress has not authorized it!
feb 24, 2025, 8:41 pm • 6 0 • view
Should have called Sweet James.
feb 24, 2025, 9:23 pm • 0 0 • view
In my non-legal fantasy, a judge throws each and every person saying "uh I don't know" in jail for contempt until they stop playing.
feb 24, 2025, 9:28 pm • 3 0 • view
TBH, we're not sure who the boss is either. 🤷
feb 24, 2025, 11:18 pm • 6 0 • view
😂
feb 24, 2025, 11:36 pm • 0 0 • view
I’m sure the judge was super chill abt that.
feb 24, 2025, 11:59 pm • 0 0 • view
When will you have an answer Is the obvious follow up
feb 24, 2025, 8:48 pm • 16 0 • view
Or - I expect an answer by ___. Or - Then I expect the following people to appear before me in court to answer this question under oath, and I expect that to happen no later than ___.
feb 25, 2025, 1:14 pm • 3 0 • view
🍌 republic
feb 25, 2025, 9:06 am • 0 0 • view
Then who hired them? Lawyer that doesn't know who their client is...
feb 25, 2025, 6:47 am • 4 0 • view
Is this court in the US ? Sounds like Belize 🇧🇿
feb 24, 2025, 10:33 pm • 1 0 • view
Lying sons a bitches
feb 24, 2025, 10:32 pm • 1 1 • view
Would it be possible for Trump to declare DOGE administration a state secret for reasons of , if only as another delay tactic to be slowly unwound in court?
feb 24, 2025, 9:17 pm • 0 0 • view
Do judges like it when lawyers are totally unprepared
feb 24, 2025, 8:37 pm • 119 2 • view
Oh man. If you are seriously asking this, then do i have a podcast for you: try the “Formulated Objections” episodes of Knowledge Fight, in which you hear far right dingdongs try and fail under oath to justify their illegal & immoral actions with 0 preparation, even though they were given notice.
feb 24, 2025, 10:39 pm • 0 0 • view
As some judges do in fact eat red meat, yes. Most would eat such a lawyer for lunch. with a small bit of salt sprinkled over the corpse. Seriously, no judge would put up with this level of crap. Sanctions. Serious sanctions which could range from fines and suspensions to jail time IIRC. Law license
feb 24, 2025, 8:46 pm • 91 2 • view
Yes. Everything already said above. in the real world, you better have an answer or a good reason why you don't know. Otherwise, it appears you're trying to hide something you can't say without risking your license.When your credibility before the court is damaged, you don't get it back; life's hard
feb 24, 2025, 9:15 pm • 3 0 • view
2/ gone. Serious as houses. Feel like one fell on them too.
feb 24, 2025, 8:46 pm • 35 1 • view
No, but their opposing counsel does
feb 24, 2025, 11:01 pm • 0 0 • view
Nope. Judges are skilled in the art of handing you your ass on a platter. Or giving you a new asshole. If they go that far, you are really in trouble.
feb 24, 2025, 9:15 pm • 2 0 • view
Oh FFS…
feb 24, 2025, 11:53 pm • 0 0 • view
Counsel should be sanctioned. If you come to court unprepared to answer the most basic question relevant to the case, you are either an idiot or a liar. Or both.
feb 24, 2025, 9:34 pm • 107 2 • view
I guess for some lawyers... the pay is enough. the... hoped for pay.
feb 24, 2025, 10:25 pm • 0 0 • view
They know the answer They are lying
feb 24, 2025, 10:42 pm • 36 0 • view
And should therefore be held in contempt
feb 24, 2025, 11:12 pm • 30 1 • view
bsky.app/profile/sean...
feb 24, 2025, 10:08 pm • 0 0 • view
wut
feb 24, 2025, 8:59 pm • 37 1 • view
Great to see you!!!!!!🤪
feb 24, 2025, 9:03 pm • 3 0 • view
Nice to see you as well!!!
feb 24, 2025, 9:07 pm • 5 0 • view
This place is so much better!!!!
feb 24, 2025, 9:07 pm • 7 0 • view
Yes indeed it is, It's 1 Million Percent Less Toxic here on Blue Sky 🥰
feb 24, 2025, 10:11 pm • 5 0 • view
It really is nice to have the option of going to your list or the following section. I can breathe........
feb 24, 2025, 11:00 pm • 2 0 • view
feb 24, 2025, 11:01 pm • 5 0 • view
This is a kakistocracy. The usurpers are unelected or illegally installed. This regime must collapse. From their own unfitness, lack of qualifications and unconstitutional policies.
feb 24, 2025, 10:23 pm • 15 5 • view
Yes but when
feb 24, 2025, 10:41 pm • 3 0 • view
is it beginning? they must leave - resign - in shame. fat chance. but this coup has big faults in it. figuratively and literally.
feb 25, 2025, 10:04 pm • 0 1 • view
Why is this reality in 2025, I am so tired
feb 24, 2025, 9:18 pm • 2 0 • view
How can the unit responsible for probably the largest cut in jobs not have an identifiable administrator?
feb 24, 2025, 8:47 pm • 6 0 • view
This IS fraud on the court.
feb 25, 2025, 2:04 pm • 7 0 • view
nah, there's no admin. They're more like an anarchists collective 😒
feb 25, 2025, 2:28 am • 1 0 • view
Anarchists are better organised. /s
feb 25, 2025, 4:03 am • 2 0 • view
Well then, I guess the court should order Donald J Trump to appear in court and provide testimony as to who is in charge of DOGE. This is one of those “the buck stops at the top” things.
feb 25, 2025, 1:21 am • 4 0 • view
Scotus gave him a get out of jail card‼️😡
feb 25, 2025, 2:17 pm • 0 0 • view
It's you, isn't it, ANNA? 👀
feb 24, 2025, 9:22 pm • 0 0 • view
Judge should sanction all the lawyers. They knowingly are being deceptive
feb 24, 2025, 9:12 pm • 5 0 • view
Complete and total shutdown of DOGE until they can figure out what's going on
feb 24, 2025, 8:45 pm • 23 1 • view
Shut it down. If no one is accountable for their actions, than it should not be allowed to operate.
feb 24, 2025, 10:48 pm • 0 0 • view
I still think she should bring them all in so they can testify since she's getting such woefully inadequate answers from the DOJ. And by "them" I mean Musk, his embedded employees, the guy who said he was actually the one in charge and not Musk, and any department head
feb 24, 2025, 8:45 pm • 9 0 • view
who had contact with DOGE and was forced to give access. Bring them all in and let them testify. Tell the DOJ to go sit down.
feb 24, 2025, 8:45 pm • 3 0 • view
ya know for a group that's so eager to tear down every other agency's organizational structure, DOGE is in dire need of better organization. Either that or counsel is lying and should be held in contempt.
feb 24, 2025, 11:03 pm • 3 0 • view
This is the dumbest dictatorship in history
feb 24, 2025, 9:27 pm • 4 0 • view
“Get this useless piece of shit out of my courtroom”
feb 24, 2025, 9:16 pm • 2 0 • view
Throw them all in prison
feb 24, 2025, 10:10 pm • 1 0 • view
NAME THE "GOVERNMENT LAWYER."
feb 25, 2025, 12:36 am • 0 0 • view
That's an easy fix. Order someone like Edward Coristine, Luke Farritor, or Marko Elez into the courtroom and put them under oath as to who they get their marching orders from.
feb 24, 2025, 8:43 pm • 44 2 • view
This...
feb 24, 2025, 8:56 pm • 2 0 • view
When you say Edward Coristine, do you mean "Big Balls?"
feb 24, 2025, 9:16 pm • 4 0 • view
I hesitate to use that monicker, as it assumes facts not in evidence.
feb 24, 2025, 9:18 pm • 36 0 • view
Ask them too what they were doing on or about November 5, 2024 in Pennsylvania?
feb 24, 2025, 10:55 pm • 2 0 • view
Absolutely all of this as soon as possible. Who is the prosecuting attorney?
feb 25, 2025, 5:26 am • 0 0 • view
And who signs their paychecks!
feb 25, 2025, 2:17 am • 3 0 • view
I would say, “you have 24 hours to come back with a name”.
feb 25, 2025, 7:47 am • 1 0 • view
Judge
feb 24, 2025, 10:00 pm • 1 0 • view
Hmmm.... That is hardly a great answer.
feb 25, 2025, 8:45 pm • 1 0 • view
Why is this not a pinned skeet? bsky.app/profile/anna...
feb 24, 2025, 9:54 pm • 11 1 • view
It is now!
may 29, 2025, 11:46 pm • 4 0 • view
They are “skating on thin ice”.
feb 25, 2025, 1:59 am • 0 0 • view
This was obviously where this was headed. They don't want to disclose it.
feb 24, 2025, 8:36 pm • 24 0 • view
Happy to take bets on whether someone from Palantir is involved, not in the firings - those look like Elon - but in ingesting data. Better-than-even odds that an ex-Palantir person is in there. Reasonable odds that the Palantir set includes Greg Barbaccia, the US Chief Federal Information Officer.
feb 24, 2025, 8:52 pm • 57 9 • view
Take a look at Brian Bjelde at OPM. He was at SpaceX and was the guy who orchestrated the mass firings at Twitter
feb 25, 2025, 1:50 am • 1 0 • view
That $10m a week they’re apparently spending has to be going somewhere for services. Should it be FOIA-able or something?
feb 24, 2025, 8:55 pm • 5 0 • view
Bingo!
feb 24, 2025, 8:58 pm • 2 0 • view
And, if Barbaccia doesn't understand who is running DOGE then he's not doing his supposed job as supervisor of all federal IT systems. @annabower.bsky.social - can the plaintiffs demand the opportunity to depose Barbaccia?
feb 24, 2025, 9:00 pm • 54 8 • view
Or, journalists can just contact Barbaccia's office and ask. The CIO sits in OMB. Let's do it - someone should pick up the phone and ask. www.cio.gov/about/member...
feb 24, 2025, 9:17 pm • 37 7 • view
A whole article from NBC stating that DOGE will feed email responses into some kind of "AI system" and not one mention of WHOSE SYSTEM IT IS THAT WILL BE USED. @annabower.bsky.social , help us! If tech reporters are failing, anyone with a phone and guts can call. www.nbcnews.com/politics/dog...
feb 24, 2025, 9:26 pm • 47 10 • view
Who Voted for This? World’s richest man decides if you work. Wasn’t on the ballot (it was orange jerk). Now he says AI will decide who gets cut. That’s insane! Kick Musk out on his butt!
feb 24, 2025, 10:45 pm • 2 0 • view
bsky.app/profile/josh...
feb 24, 2025, 10:00 pm • 0 0 • view
Pretty obvious. bsky.app/profile/josh...
feb 24, 2025, 9:58 pm • 0 0 • view
We need to tell the AI that a terrible person is misusing it to hurt other people.
feb 25, 2025, 5:30 am • 0 0 • view
Ffs
feb 24, 2025, 9:55 pm • 11 0 • view
With all that data on tax, employment, medicaid etc....they can impose a tyranny the USSR could only dream of.
feb 24, 2025, 9:44 pm • 1 0 • view
feb 24, 2025, 8:38 pm • 1 0 • view
Can’t this judge order the United States to submit a sworn declaration from a DOGE official, or at least counsel, within 24 hours, identifying the administrator of DOGE?
feb 24, 2025, 10:19 pm • 3 0 • view
Only the best.
feb 24, 2025, 10:54 pm • 0 0 • view
It’s simple it’s Elon Musk who brought his tech bro boys and together they’re destroying the treasury’s system with Trumps permission
feb 24, 2025, 9:48 pm • 0 0 • view
She needs to give them a hard deadline, like 8:00 PM, to tell her who this is, or the attorney will be held in contempt.
feb 24, 2025, 8:36 pm • 82 0 • view
I'd say it's more likely she rules DOGE to be an unconstitutional unstructured morass of power that must immediately be disbanded. And anyone operating in the name of DOGE gets a contempt order. So Big Balls and the Nazis get contempt.
feb 24, 2025, 8:47 pm • 4 0 • view
or, I assume, she'll just issue the preliminary injunction broadly
feb 24, 2025, 8:40 pm • 24 0 • view
Nope she needs a person to hold in contempt if they violate the order.
feb 24, 2025, 8:41 pm • 32 1 • view
that would be anyone who accesses the data against the court order, regardless of who their boss is
feb 24, 2025, 8:46 pm • 18 0 • view
So the young Muskrats could be held in contempt? Lock them up.
feb 24, 2025, 8:54 pm • 34 1 • view
Remember that Trump can pardon anyone as long as this is a federal judge (which it should be).
feb 24, 2025, 10:17 pm • 3 0 • view
Not a contempt charge
feb 24, 2025, 10:23 pm • 3 0 • view
Contempt charges are not pardonable? That would be very cool.
feb 24, 2025, 10:23 pm • 1 0 • view
There is civil contempt and criminal contempt. What most are talking about here is civil contempt. That is not a punishment, but rather a coersive tool. The contempt consequence ends as soon as you comply.
feb 24, 2025, 11:33 pm • 0 0 • view
But if you refuse the matter then enters criminal contempt, which is pardonable.
feb 24, 2025, 11:43 pm • 0 0 • view
It’s a procedural charge not an adjudication. That’s my understanding.
feb 24, 2025, 10:25 pm • 9 0 • view
Seems like there's been plenty of debate about this, and Trump has abused his pardon power in the past. He'd probably get away with it again. www.law.georgetown.edu/public-polic...
feb 24, 2025, 11:01 pm • 3 0 • view
There are different types of contempt. Criminal contempt can, I believe, be pardoned. “Coercive contempt” (stay in jail until you obey my order) is considered civil, so not pardonable.
feb 24, 2025, 10:56 pm • 0 0 • view
Did the judge push back??????? How long are they going to be able to get away with Schrödinger's DOGE administrator?? They are doing this so no one can be held in contempt!
feb 24, 2025, 8:34 pm • 186 6 • view
Yes, she did.
feb 24, 2025, 8:45 pm • 10 0 • view
They are creating American KGB
feb 25, 2025, 7:39 am • 58 3 • view
This Exactly Has Always Been The Case As In With The January 6th Insurrection
feb 24, 2025, 9:57 pm • 18 0 • view
I think technically only congress can create a department and fund it. So there really isn't a DOGE for Musk to be part of or confirmed to lead.
feb 24, 2025, 8:50 pm • 4 0 • view
Bingo...that's been the argument all along.
feb 24, 2025, 8:52 pm • 2 0 • view
There is/was an office of government efficiency, created under Obama the point was to have a strike team to help departments modernize and do special projects. Trump turned that into DOGE, legally. That is how it supposedly exists and gets funding.
feb 24, 2025, 10:13 pm • 0 0 • view
Jail him. See who pays the bail.
feb 24, 2025, 8:52 pm • 2 0 • view
Deep State
feb 25, 2025, 3:34 pm • 2 0 • view
So then DOGE should be prohibited from operating until they can identify who the administrator is. A list of all individuals associated with DOGE and their roles should be provided. What happened to the govt transparency they advocated for?!
feb 24, 2025, 10:16 pm • 4 0 • view
AMERICANs have a right to know who runs DOGE
feb 24, 2025, 11:13 pm • 2 0 • view
Absolutely. I want to know who collected our data, how it was stored, and what measures, if any, were taken to protect it.
feb 24, 2025, 11:39 pm • 0 0 • view
It's like walking into court and saying "I don't know who my client is."
feb 24, 2025, 9:19 pm • 0 0 • view
Will the order be followed?
feb 24, 2025, 9:18 pm • 0 0 • view
No one is in charge so nothing can be illegal, problem solved
feb 24, 2025, 10:18 pm • 3 0 • view
This wilful ignorance is a strategy to avoid anyone being held accountable. Did Musk's minions do X illegal thing? Trump: I haven't heard that. Who is in charge here? Golly gee, I just don't know. {They are liars.} But I don't think this strategy was designed for a court of law.
feb 24, 2025, 10:55 pm • 2 0 • view
Accountability. Not counting hillbillies.✨
feb 25, 2025, 1:37 am • 0 0 • view
They don't want to answer that. It's obvious they're playing dodge ball in order to keep Musk out of Court and prevent him having to testify under oath.
feb 24, 2025, 10:14 pm • 3 0 • view
The judge should hold the government in contempt for refusing to answer basic questions.
feb 24, 2025, 8:48 pm • 11 0 • view
Who TF is giving that lawyer instructions? No client = no authority.
feb 24, 2025, 9:35 pm • 1 0 • view
!!!
feb 24, 2025, 9:16 pm • 0 0 • view
Clown show 🤡 Not funny.
feb 24, 2025, 10:32 pm • 1 0 • view
Criminal enterprise protecting dear leader.
feb 25, 2025, 3:22 am • 1 0 • view
Isn’t part of the point to delay any actions? Give DOGE more time? At some point, when it’s all in pieces, legal action will be moot.
feb 24, 2025, 8:58 pm • 11 2 • view
This. The judges "push" but dint really do anything. Then delay delay delay. Soon they will be done breaking shit and then just pick some random janitor pay him off and be like "this guy is admin" at which point its too late to do anything
feb 25, 2025, 1:20 am • 0 0 • view
THIS.
feb 24, 2025, 9:06 pm • 3 0 • view
WHAT THE ABSOLUTE
feb 24, 2025, 11:17 pm • 0 0 • view
Just going to lay it out there again. SO WHAT! They OWN the judiciary. They OWN LE. THEY OWN IT! So, all this legal mumbo jumbo means exactly Jack and his good buddy Squat. I repeat, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT IT!!! No one, repeat, NO ONE is coming to help us. What do we do? Ideas?
feb 24, 2025, 11:20 pm • 0 0 • view
Concerning
feb 24, 2025, 11:53 pm • 0 0 • view
JUDGE COLLEEN KOLLAR-KOTELLY: Who's in charge of DOGE? SLIMEY GOVERNMENT COUNSEL: I don't know the answer to that.... JUDGE COLLEEN KOLLAR-KOTELLY: Okay, get out and leave your licence at the desk. Don't turn up so unprepared for something so critical again. This is what should be happening.
feb 24, 2025, 10:13 pm • 27 1 • view
The judge should have fined him for being unprepared and wasting the court’s time. At the least. In a just world the lawyer would be held in contempt.
feb 24, 2025, 10:54 pm • 8 0 • view
what actually happened? can’t believe she accepted this?
feb 25, 2025, 1:23 am • 0 0 • view
Trump is not a puppet of Musk. Musk is his chaos-loving hatchet man, dismantling government. Trump is too lazy and unintelligent to do it himself.
feb 24, 2025, 10:13 pm • 5 0 • view
This is an unacceptable response. failure to provide an accurate response should result in a default judgement.
feb 24, 2025, 9:47 pm • 1 0 • view
Why does the judge not give them until (say) 09.00 tomorrow to find out the answers to these questions, or face contempt citation?
feb 24, 2025, 9:23 pm • 2 0 • view
I love her mildness. "It's unfortunate that you're not prepared for these questions" is not a sentence you ever want to hear from a judge.
feb 24, 2025, 8:37 pm • 633 26 • view
Dying inside and it’s not me before her.
feb 24, 2025, 9:03 pm • 5 0 • view
Why not? It's not like anything will happen to them for not answering.
feb 24, 2025, 11:08 pm • 1 0 • view
I love that American judges can get a bit sassy
feb 25, 2025, 1:50 am • 24 0 • view
That hurts.
feb 24, 2025, 8:55 pm • 27 0 • view
Does it? Because it sure looks like they can lie with impunity cuz they keep doing it without repercussions.
feb 24, 2025, 11:43 pm • 14 0 • view
Judge looking through criminal contempt of court rules, quietly murmuring to themselves, “How many years can I lock this guy up for?”
feb 24, 2025, 9:31 pm • 5 0 • view
pretend he shoplifted some deodorant
feb 25, 2025, 1:53 pm • 0 0 • view
Sounds like “Bless your heart” to me.
feb 24, 2025, 9:59 pm • 7 0 • view
"bless your heart" with the possibility of jail time lol
feb 24, 2025, 10:44 pm • 4 0 • view
i already have double sets of "possible jail time" at home leftover from trump
feb 25, 2025, 1:52 pm • 1 0 • view
I deplore it. It bespeaks a failure to bring these people to book. They are finding poor responses effective in the face of milquetoast demands from one of the checks of democracy.
feb 24, 2025, 10:55 pm • 0 0 • view
Mild phrasing does not equate to mild jurisprudence.
feb 24, 2025, 11:01 pm • 3 0 • view
Schmitt comes to mind. There’s barely a smidgeon between Carl Schmitt’s “Sovereign is he who decides on the exception” and failing to nail down, procedurally, the person responsible for such a heinous act of deception at the very highest levels.
feb 24, 2025, 11:09 pm • 0 0 • view
Well, I hope you’re right, for your sake.
feb 24, 2025, 11:02 pm • 0 0 • view
Roasted and toasted like a marshmallow in a fire pit. 🤣
feb 24, 2025, 9:13 pm • 1 0 • view
Is this perjury? He likely knows the answer…. And honestly has no business showing up in court if he doesn’t.
feb 24, 2025, 9:05 pm • 0 0 • view
So who is supervising the teen hackers?
feb 24, 2025, 9:00 pm • 3 0 • view