I understand what you're trying to say and I'm just saying it's wrong. I know this is going to sound nuts because of how much we think of the US as nakedly capitalistic but the model of research the us pioneered actually isn't.
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I agree with you on the domestic capability— and economic multiplier of science work/manufacturing. It didn’t die, it moved across the border. We opted out of participating in that market because Republicans are terrible people.
aug 26, 2025, 12:20 pm • 1 0 • view
What I'm saying is it didn't move across the border. They are taking and manufacturing an *existing* technology. They're not creating something new. And that's my point. We're gutting the systems that made that vaccine possible, making the mrna vaccine in Canada isn't replacing those systems.
aug 26, 2025, 12:29 pm • 11 0 • view
i appreciate this acknowledgement of basic science. it's so often overlooked and yeah a lot doesn't pan out as *immediately financial*, but it's integral to how US science has been able to produce so. much. knowledge.
aug 26, 2025, 4:58 pm • 0 0 • view
I disagree. Canada took the entire process (annual new science) and are making the vax. The original science was made here, we shouldn’t expect to keep that forever in a globalized world.
aug 26, 2025, 12:31 pm • 0 0 • view
What Kendra is saying, as I understand, is that the next vaccine, the next product requiring billions of dollars to research & develop, will not exist because we are losing the internationally-incomparable funding mechanism that created it. NIH funds at a scale that no other non-corporate entity can
aug 26, 2025, 1:09 pm • 3 0 • view
Canada is taking on the result of one of these funding efforts, yes, but not the mechanism that created it in the first place Talking raw numbers, the US has historically funded science at a scale that no one else has. That’s not American exceptionalism talking, that’s just the quantitative reality
aug 26, 2025, 1:09 pm • 4 0 • view
In 2023, the NIH invested $49.17 BILLION in research www.congress.gov/crs-product/... CIHR’s budget was $1 bil in 2023 cihr-irsc.gc.ca/e/53962.html You’re repeating the narrative that the same science will happen, just elsewhere It won’t. The international field is losing irreplaceable billions
aug 26, 2025, 1:19 pm • 3 0 • view
I never said we should keep it forever. It honestly seems like you're struggling to understand what I'm actually saying and like you're cherry picking my comments so have a good day.
aug 26, 2025, 12:34 pm • 8 0 • view
Put another way basic research is just that basic. It helps us understand how shit works. Most of it will not result in technologies that make money, but when they do it's usually the private sector that runs with it. This has lead to the false belief that the private sector pulls all the weight
aug 26, 2025, 12:06 pm • 203 38 • view
You’re missing a key step, which is that it is the government that also invests the most to turn basic research into technology in the first place ( although often for defence purposes) only then private companies come in. Gov investment is highly undervalued in so many examples
aug 26, 2025, 12:58 pm • 21 0 • view
Yeah i interviewed the LIGO researchers years ago and asked them what was the biggest benefit beyond the detection of gravity waves itself and they said the tech they created to make detection possible
aug 26, 2025, 1:00 pm • 20 0 • view
The book “Jump-starting America” has lots more ther such examples
aug 26, 2025, 1:02 pm • 8 0 • view
Agreed, it's another one of those soft power sources that this admin has DESTROYED, alongside stuff like USAID and international students at universities.
aug 26, 2025, 12:09 pm • 3 0 • view