It's just a shame he seems to be anti trans. He shouldn't be facing this abuse, and I 100% condemn the reform types he gets this from. It's just then frustrating to see him support people who direct abuse at trans people.
It's just a shame he seems to be anti trans. He shouldn't be facing this abuse, and I 100% condemn the reform types he gets this from. It's just then frustrating to see him support people who direct abuse at trans people.
I saw Mothin not answer whether a trans woman is a woman and it was a bit rubbish. He was strong on the point that oppressing trans people allows the oppression of all though, which suggests he doesn't understand trans people but would defend them because of that wider picture.
It was that (his refusal to answer LGBTQ+ greens questions, the only one afaik) and this bsky.app/profile/djmu...
The "Attacks" he's referring to is people calling out anti trans comments which he directly compares to the racist abuse he's faced. Clearly those things are very different, but the fact he thinks they're the same is very concerning.
I don't doubt that Hussain has also received abuse, but he has seemed to be doing the usual MP thing of conflating criticism and abuse. It's also telling that Ali chose to wait until most votes will have been cast before stating his position. (I don't recall whether it was after polls closed)
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Agree completely its a situation where both things can be right. Its awful he's getting any abuse. But hes also part of the system doing the same thing to our trans community
In his speech at the announcement of the new leadership team he expressed solidarity for trans people and said the same people attacking them are the far right. Said weβve all got to stand together.
That seems counter to his twitter post.
Also he was the only one not to respond to LGBTQ+ greens.
I didnβt know this, but that was what he said on Wednesday
He gave as a reason for not answering it, some position on pledges he has, thus making it all about him and refusing to engage with a special interest group of the party. He says we're all together but his actions throw LGBTQIA people under the bus.
As far as I can tell from the trans people I follow the party has lost the trans vote this week and it's because of Mothin.
Oh, no, I don't think it's *that* bad. His view does seem to be the minority view in party leadership right now, and he does seem to be on the mild side of transphobia based on the limited information I have. It's FAR worse in labour and "your party".
Very generous of you to expect LGBTQIA people to put up with a mild transphobe. I'm sure we're all grateful.
I am a LGBTQIA person. I'm not expecting anyone else to do that. I'm saying I am.
I'd also like to point out, it's me calling it out. I wont stop talking about it. But right now, I still intend to vote green.
It's obviously not an ideal situation, but it's far better than basically any other party. Polanski's resounding victory was a clear message by members that the majority of the party is unwilling to abide transphobia, and Ali keeping his position under wraps demonstrated that he knows this.
I'd certainly have preferred Frank Adlington-Stringer been elected, with him having staunchly stated his position on the matter. Ali has said that he stands against discrimination targeting us and now I can only hope that he lives up to that. And if he doesn't, we have to hold him to account.
The problem with Ali is not that he has been transphobic but that he has allied himself with a Your Party member who has been, albeit not directly on this. He needs to work out quickly where his loyalties lie and declare them publicly.
Oh, and he needs some intensive media training, stat.
Hi John, can you share what actions he's done against trans people? I'm not aware of any so would like to know please to make my own mind up. From what I've seen/read he's not actively anti, just being neutral because of his religious beliefs, which isn't ideal but tolerance paradox and all that.
There is no tolerance paradox. "Religious beliefs" isn't a reason to be intolerant of LGBTQ+ people/ You can see the comments I posted them here elsewhere. The context is he's comparing people criticising MPs for anti trans comments and support to racism.
Okay I hadn't seen the Tweets, he went over the line with that. Like I said everything I'd seen/heard previous was neutral, so was tolerable unlike Terfs etc. Thankyou for sharing the info, hopefully he learns a bit better and changes to be more supportive or he won't be voted in again.
This is kind of where I am. I'll say it like it is, but I'm not close to bailing on the greens at this point.
They're the closest to what I want and are the tactical vote where I live to get Labour out but if Mothin was leader or my councillor I don't know what I'd do.
Yeah, he can change and even if he doesn't is only one guy, no need to throw the baby out with the bath water as the party as a whole is still good/better than the available others.
He hasn't acted against trans people but has flatly refused to affirm that trans women are women etc, or to answer the LGBTQIA Greens questions before the election. It was his comments after the election that really upset people but I haven't seen them. I kept asking him to post a statement about...
.. Trans people being their gender and nb being valid but he flatly wouldn't.
He certainly hasn't said anything about trans people in any connection to religious beliefs though, just to be clear.
Yeah I'm just assuming that's where this comes from as socially conservative views are very common amongst religious groups in my experience.
Yeah this is where I got the neutral impression, wasn't pro but wasn't also anti. Obviously my opinion has now changed a bit with what the other person shared.
Important point for me is that people who stay neutral and aren't vehemently anti-racist, anti-misogynistic etc. are enabling the people who are the perpetrators of this hate. The same principle to neutrality being enabling applies here, doesn't it?
On reflection I was definitely having a stressy day yesterday but this is exactly what I was getting at. π
Yes they are enabling things by not calling it out, but they're not actively supporting it either so act as a bit of a wall too. Personally, in the tolerant society we should have, so long as people are not being actively intolerant they should be tolerated and tried to be brought over imo.
yeah, he needs to go..