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Jon @jon-snowboarder.bsky.social

Of course, there would likely be similar sentiment if that question were posed to Palestinians. The consequence of many decades of war and its related atrocities.

aug 11, 2025, 7:49 am • 0 0

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Jon @jon-snowboarder.bsky.social

But also political and social compromise can be found as has been shown in other bitter conflicts. The will has to be there, unfortunately, that poll (amongst many other indicators) would suggest it isn't.

aug 11, 2025, 7:55 am • 1 0 • view
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Glostermeteor 🔶 @glostermeteor.bsky.social

Its what happens when populations are radicalised by endless conflict. Its why an enforced peace from the outside is required. 1948 independence for the region was clearly a mistake.

aug 11, 2025, 8:17 am • 1 0 • view
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Jon @jon-snowboarder.bsky.social

I'm not sure I entirely agree, I think the solution eventually tends to come from within. Meddling by outside influences often just aggravates many of these conflicts and in some cases is even what started them. Having said that condemnation, meaningful sanctions etc are important.

aug 11, 2025, 9:02 am • 0 0 • view
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Glostermeteor 🔶 @glostermeteor.bsky.social

We have had 70 years of them trying to find a solution from within and it clearly hasnt worked.

aug 11, 2025, 9:04 am • 1 0 • view
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Jon @jon-snowboarder.bsky.social

Agreed, but wherever we (as in the West) have ‘stepped in’ with our big clumsy boots to try to force peaceful solutions we have pretty much universally made it much worse. I don't have an answer, unfortunately.

aug 11, 2025, 9:09 am • 0 0 • view
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Jon @jon-snowboarder.bsky.social

The problem usually is that our intentions are not entirely selfless…to say the least.

aug 11, 2025, 9:10 am • 0 0 • view
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Glostermeteor 🔶 @glostermeteor.bsky.social

All you have is ratcheting hatred on both sides, with both sides turning into nazis, but with 1 side having nearly all the weapons.

aug 11, 2025, 9:04 am • 1 0 • view
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Jon @jon-snowboarder.bsky.social

As I say, I don't have an answer. A genocide can't be allowed to continue but I'm struggling to imagine a workable solution for any peace, let alone a lasting one. I thought the same about the troubles in Ireland for many years though.

aug 11, 2025, 9:15 am • 1 0 • view
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TheSecretDiplomat @thesecretdiplomat.bsky.social

Seema a thread I wrote earlier today might be relevant here, hope this is helpful/relevant: bsky.app/profile/thes...

aug 11, 2025, 7:03 pm • 1 0 • view
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Jon @jon-snowboarder.bsky.social

Thanks, a very interesting read.

aug 11, 2025, 7:32 pm • 0 0 • view
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Jon @jon-snowboarder.bsky.social

I’ll just add that many of these things have already been tried, and then swiftly unravelled, in the region over the decades. Same as in Ireland really, something just finally clicked there though. Political will on both sides maybe, war fatigue? Not sure.

aug 11, 2025, 7:37 pm • 0 0 • view
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TheSecretDiplomat @thesecretdiplomat.bsky.social

Yes, as Beckett would say - "Try again. Fail again. Fail better." The GFA wasn't the first time the "successful formula" was tried in Northern Ireland.

aug 11, 2025, 9:50 pm • 0 0 • view
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Glostermeteor 🔶 @glostermeteor.bsky.social

I dont think they are remotely the same. Mainly because despite the political differences N Ireland was 2 sides of the same core faith, the same background, almost all white (especially in the 80s/90s). Palestinians and Israelis are like polar opposites.

aug 11, 2025, 7:46 pm • 0 0 • view