I’m saying that the Senator’s point is that he is a liar, even to his own base. Why is this important? Because if you sit back and say “you deserve this,” it’s hostile to potential voters. Think about a big tent, even if the idea that you have anything in common with Trump voters makes you angry.
omg. I don't want to be in a tent with ppl with such utter disdain for existence that isn't their own. Hostility might cause a few to think, too. Handling them with kid gloves literally brought us here. if you want to be in a tent with nazis, great but YOU might end up with that label too.
You make some good points, but I have no idea what to say to my own family who are listening to the cult crazies. I don’t want to “other” them, but what do you say to a fascist/eugenicist? 😭. I’m afraid in Mississippi, and regardless of who I voted for you are right, most people will call me a nazi
1/ YES! That's what I'm getting at w/ all my yelling. We are learning that our own family, friends, coworkers, etc are absolutely HORRIFIC people, the UGLIEST people inside their heads and hearts the past 10 years or so. Black/Jewish ppl ALWAYS KNEW THIS. We were insulated from it.
That’s the hardest part -realizing that the people who are closest to you are aligned with an insane fascist. I knew my relative had deeply sexist ideas (from arguments in the past) but it’s a whole new experience to fully acknowledge the profound and downright immoral ideas of humans around us.
yep. 💔 we're on the way to find out who's already at rock bottom with the Epstein stuff. Testing to see how honest these PRO-CHILD folks are. "Do you love your orange god or do you actually mean...**something?? anything??** seriously when you talk about caring for kids?" 😞
I can tell you something about this. I’m a survivor of childhood sexual assault. I’ve lived in the North and the Deep South. Moving to the South was horrific because of how my story was totally disbelieved. Being a tiny blue dot in a sea of self righteous, yet deeply hateful people is lonely.
One thing that is different about the current political climate is that the level of hostility is far worse. It’s not that the cruelty wasn’t there the whole time- just that his vulgar demeanor gives people permission to be awful. I cried when he was elected. Looked into moving to Canada
ohhh absolutely. It was swept under the rug until someone gave permission for it. And depending on a lot of things you can be VERY insulated from it and never see it until it's too late (especially marginalized that vote GOP.) I'm sorry about your trauma. I hope you get to a better place. ❤️️
2/ I'm surrounded by these people too, a sort of "Missisippi of the North". My strategy is the best offense is a perfect defense. Know your info, but don't go out to argue w/ your fellow Reds. But! if the Reds talk to YOU about it or try to feel out your politics, hammer away and let em have it.
3/ fin? i've had goofball Reds bother me about things like masking for COVID. I *firmly* said it's for my FAMILY. Can't stand there and complain about FAMILY, right fellow Red "family guy"? So it goes. Use their own words, their language. Some have never heard their words used like that before.
truth is 99% of republicans will continue to vote Republican. The potential voters you speak of are too entrenched in their own way of thinking. When truth is flexible, like with Fox News etc, the only way to change peoples votes is thru personal pain. There’s no common good. Only whats for me?
Even personal pain may not be enough. The orange man says gas is $1.99, and that eggs are almost free, and everyone believes him. I wish there was some kind of justice. Seems like the rich always win. I’m not getting involved in politics or watching the news because I feel helpless.
the saying goes, paraphrased: "if you're not involved in politics, politics is always looking for ways to involve you anyway."
True. I await my cattle car. I have no idea how to change things if voting doesn’t work. I don’t actually believe he won the election. Elon controls the satellites, and a disturbing number of voting machines were connected to the internet.
Totally understandable. And honestly, that's why so many lefties are sooooooo mad right now. If there was mass election interference (and there probalby was) we didn't need a Dem candidate to concede the election five minutes after some results came in. We need a an actual oppo party, and fast.