The atheist community needs to be louder pushing back against the Christian nationalist wackos trying to create an American theocracy.
The atheist community needs to be louder pushing back against the Christian nationalist wackos trying to create an American theocracy.
I've worn out my "Good Without God" tshirt, I need to make a new one. I wear it when I volunteer for anything. But frankly the hostility I get negates a lot of the good vibes from volunteering, and I need those good vibes these days.
The Christian community needs to be louder pushing back against the Christian nationalist wackos trying to create an American theocracy!
It would behoove ALL religions in the US to push back against Christian Nationalism. If it is established, then they will inevitably define what constitutes their version of Christianity and exclude all other denominations as well as other religions. This affects more than atheist.
Agreed.
I think we've been hearing from the religious folks pushing back though.
It needs to get louder and harder.
Actually, I believe Christians need to be louder. Really we need everybody, but who better to sit down with these people than those who hold/held some of the same beliefs? I had planned to travel in 2020 to speak w/ people before the election. I think many would’ve if it weren’t for the pandemic.
100,000,000,000% We need to be more vocal and perhaps more organized. And I think we need to be more vigilant of bigots among our ranks.
It would be much easier if bluesky would stop suspending our accounts.
Christianity is not a true moral code. It breeds 3 moral archetypes. First four Commandments are void of moral intuition let alone wisdom. To make things worse forever, Bible cannot be edited. 1/2
I have seen many posts on social media from Milquetoasts (Sermon on the Mounts) or possibly Why Bothers (Bible as Metaphor) about them finding another church once theirs became MAGA. Clean your houses Milquetoasts. 2/2
You wouldn't be advocating for *gasp* REDDIT ATHEISM? 😂🤣😂
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There's an atheist community?
Oh yeah. Sub-communities too. They just arent remotely as loud and organized as they used to be in the 2010s.
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They first need to learn the difference between the christofascists and the rest of the Christian communities in the US. As it stands, many seem to be subscribing only to the Hitchens/Carlin version of "Christianity", seeing potential allies as the enemy.
I see little to no difference between any version of the Abrahamic Religions. I see arguments and wars over whose imaginary sky daddy is the best. It is utterly stupid.
That may be, but would you refuse to work with others from an Abrahamic faith who were working to mitigate the CN impact on our society?
I would not refuse to work alongside or with ANY religious affiliated individuals to eliminate Christian Nationalism. Separation of State & Church is enshrined in the Bill of Rights, justly so.
They know the difference just fine. How to deal with the fact those two groups of people agree on the many of same beliefs but disagree on the methods is challenging. Gotta filter the latter group.
That's a good point but its easier said than done because Christian communities often share the views of the christofascists but disagree with their methods. For example, thinking that gay people are an "abomination" but disagreeing that its the government's place to do anything about it.
No one said it'd be easy, and, speaking from experience, there are many denominations where the efforts could begin who want nothing to do with or be associated with the CN's. Evangelicals make up only about 1/3 of the "churched" in the US, which tells me there's a lot of untapped potential left.
I think there is a lot but you gotta do a lot of filtering. There are over 40,000 denominations and they can vary wildly in their political activity, theology and doctrine.
Start with the denoms with women in positions of authority (pastors/priests, bishops, deacons, archbishops).
IMO it's the Christians who need to put a check on Christian nationalism. Christ Nats won't listen to atheists. They might listen to another Christian.
See I'm not so sure. The Christain Nationalists arent the ones who need to be convinced and those people are already accusing liberal Christians of being "false prophets". Atheists and non-believers already have a history of fighting church and state issues and winning.
If Christian fence sitters need convincing I still think Christians would be more persuasive to that audience. That culture shift away from Christ Nat would prevent bad laws in the first place. Once the law is passed you're mostly right. Satanists have also challenged religious favoritism laws too.
You’re asking for the US population en masse to be capable of understanding nuance and compromise. We have a country with 54% of the adult population without an adult level reading comprehension level. This isn’t a problem of activism not happening, it’s a literal stupidity problem.
It isnt any stupider than it was 30, 40, 50, 100, or 1,000 years ago and yet we made progress. There is no reason to believe we cant now.
Also it’s literally the first story of the Bible. Knowledge is the antithesis of authoritarianism, which is why the Tree of Knowledge is evil. It’s right there. Knowledge, understanding and education are the antithesis of authoritarianism. Not more religion or anti religion.
You have a point
My point is if education was focused on instead of religion or lack of religion, the problem would solve itself. But everyone would have to be educated with equality. Again. Not a word the current population can comprehend thanks to the lack of education.
Maybe. I'm skeptical of that but I can see how you arrived at where you at. We have a LOT of educated opposition. People have a way of compartmentalizing.
Be skeptical! Please! I’m mostly talking from my own experience. But yes. It’s that ability to ignore reality that gives them the opportunity to ignore what is happening in front of them. I wish I had it. But it also seems to come with less intelligence overall so, maybe not.
Until the population is educated enough to understand nuance and compromise they won’t be able to understand their religion is the problem. If most of the adult population can’t read well enough to understand nuance and compromise, how does yelling at them help? They genuinely cannot comprehend.
Since when do christians listen to atheists? Or even to reason? They'll only listen to other people who share their delusion. It's like you're saying it's up to trans people to fix JK Rowling.
You don’t convince them. They cannot be convinced. You mock them. You beat them in elections. You fund public education.
They dont listen to them either and I never said the point was to convince the christofascists.