Rule 9 only applies when the majority party allows it to apply. By refusing to allow a vote period. The democrats have tried and been shot down each time. The only way without civil war to get rid of Trump is to gain the majority then force the vote.
and waiting for the mid-terms is NOT an option, for many rock solid reasons (we have no idea if there will be any fair elections at all next year is one of them.) and...
At this point the midterms are the only path legally we can hope for. If that fails, then it could very well be civil war.
Nope. We can fight. We can force our members of Congress to do their fucking jobs. or we can be cowardly shithead and give up like you.
And you can't force congress to do your bidding when the majority don't listen to you. Your rhetoric is all well and good, but you have no idea what it would really take to force anything.
Your silence on this critical issue achieves nothing You opposing impeachment is a huge gift to Mike Johnson and his friends They love having zero pressure put on them.
I don't oppose impeachment. I actually am for it. Or the use of article 25 to remove him as unfit. Either will do. But just removing him is not enough. He must pay for his crimes.
You support doing nothing which is unspeakably stupid
I support attempting legally to remove, and if that fails, then weigh my options as to what I can and will do versus what forces will oppose me. That's not cowardly, it's called wisdom and planning. Something you seem to be sadly short of.
And as far as being cowardly, until you actually stand between the bullets and civilians, don't call another who has a coward.
LOL
We gave Pelosi a majority in 2018 and she did ABSOLUTELY FUCKING NOTHING with it. She actively enabled the fascist takeover by normalizing the corrupt dirtbag's crime spree. We need to learn from that really dumb mistake and force them all to advocate for impeachment right now.
During his first term Trump was impeached twice. He was not removed because it takes a two-thirds vote in the senate to do so. The Republicans refused to remove him. Again, CSPAN is free to look up and see the actual votes.
after he committed 150 well-documented impeachable offenses, impeaching him twice is a fucking joke.
Your plan is to roll over and play dead. That's exactly what Donny wants Democrats to do. So go ahead, be a fascist-enabling dirtbag. Your grandkids won't respect you. and I won't either.
I don't plan on rolling over or playing dead.I will vote as the rest of the country will if there are midterms. If not, I will fight like my family has done to take this administration the old fashioned way.
The only legal way to remove a tyrant is the impeachment process It's in the Constitution by ignoring that process you're letting a fascist dictator reign That's rolling over and playing dead.
1st, I am not in congress, so my voice is just as useless as yours to make any major changes to government without voting. 2nd, there are other legal ways of removing a tyrant that are constitutional. But again it takes a majority to vote on them.
Oh, so you believe that citizens have no impact... cool So why do you even bother to write all this shit to me?
I never said citizens can have no impact. I said that you can't force a member of congress to do anything unless you replace them with others who will. Railing and shouting at me because I speak actual sense won't help your cause any.
You know the 25th is far more difficult to implement than impeachment. So now you're just making up nonsense. Why troll me? What do you gain from this? What does anybody gain aside from the fascists? Stop protecting them.
Now you're just lying. and why are you so determined to protect the orange criminal from impeachment and removal? like, seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you?
I'm not protecting that load of pedophilic shite. I am as opposed to him and his nazi agenda as I would be to any felonious traitor to this country. I simply refuse to shoot myself in the foot when I may need it later to carry me into battle.
Hell yes you are. The only legal way to remove him is impeachment. and here you are fighting tooth and nail to make sure no one tries to impeach. You are a fucking fascist enabler.
My family fought the fascist nazis. I myself served in the military and oppose Trump daily. I don't just sit on social media screaming about how useless democrats are. I actually educate people on the dangers of this administration.
You spend a lot of time on social media desperately trying to convince people NOT to try to remove the fascist. You actively aid and abet the vile criminal.
Obviously you are part of the problem as you would rather throw the baby out with the bathwater than just the bathwater.
I have already addressed this stupid accusation.
you write shit about babies and bathwater but your proposal is "leave the fascists in power for a few more years. don't even try to remove the vile criminal regime"
Actually I've stated that legally to remove them you have to have the votes. Your response is force the votes, which is impossible to do when the majority party won't allow it.
Go troll someone else with your fascist-enabling idiocy
The cost of impeachment is zero The potential benefits enormous Only a fucking idiot would oppose that.
Again. You have to have the votes. Otherwise it won't happen. And since the entire republican party is opposed, and they hold the majority at least until the midterms it won't happen until the democrats can take the majority with enough votes to push it through.
Roll over and play dead as you so vigorously demand we all do is the worst fucking idea Nobody ever got the votes by being a lazy assed fucking coward.
And nobody will ever get the votes by throwing the entire party out the window. Again, learn how government works. I suggest a civics course.
Stupid straw man. We have to toss out the pro-fascist ones. I posted a link. A clear list of all of them.
and nobody has any idea how messed up the mid-terms will be. Betting on that is unbelievably fucking stupid.