A man, near the White House, who describes himself as a "retired disabled combat veteran," after burning an American flag tells bystanders "I am being detained because I expressed my First Amendment rights."
A man, near the White House, who describes himself as a "retired disabled combat veteran," after burning an American flag tells bystanders "I am being detained because I expressed my First Amendment rights."
Seems to have a few psychological issues otherwise they would not waste the time on him.
He’s a fkn badass HERO! 💙🦋💙
Hero.
All that makes America great is slowly being striped away from y'all.
And he's right
It'll do nothing. Until a veteran burns themself alive. Then they'll blame mental illness. Americans will accept it. And then nothing.
This courageous patriot/veteran must be in such pain asking himself what did he fight for & what happened to his country, constitution & freedoms??
A lot of veterans are struggling with that question right now!
😞🙏
The police arresting him are shameful Nazi enablers.
An American hero... with a flag and heart on fire!
Wanker
Way to speak up
Such bullshit.
The Law supersedes ANY edict from the orange 🍊 shitgibbon
We need thousands of people burning flags in front of the White House tomorrow.
despite intimidations, we see some deterioration in several fronts of the conman's political maneuver since Alaska.
I know it’s a pipe dream, but would love to see these officers loose qualified immunity for this arrest.
Long live this guy, and the citizens filming and asking questions.
"FUND THE POLICE!" -Genocide Joe Yeah thanks for that too, asshole.
For the eleventy billionth time, executive orders are not laws.
Those cops just broke the law! It is not against the Law! Also if an old flag you are supposed to burn it! 1990 Supreme court ruled!
They'll use an excuse involving permits or illegal use of fire in a specific area or some shit. Technicalities.
Thank you sir. What you did is legal.
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Texas v. Johnson (1989)
1st Amendment violation. Qualified Immunity is out the window.
Really? Can you post a link that shows how that works?
If a law enforcement officer (LEO) violates the civil rights of a citizen, and the judge is not corrupt, the LEO could lose their qualified immunity.
Won't happen
no. that's not it. first, this is the secret service so federal agent and thus essentially have no liability for violating 1st amendment rights. second, QI is only ever relevent if a government violates yout constitutional rights.
QI basically is: "if a government agent violates yours rights, but they weren't clearly established by a federal appellete court in a very similar situation to be a rights violation, then the agents get immunity.
Public officials and peace officers are entitled to qualified immunity unless they knew or reasonably should have known that the action taken within their sphere of official responsibility would violate the constitutional rights of the plaintiff (Harlow v. Fitzgerald [1982] 457 U.S. 800).
In a normal world since the SC already ruled it is protected these officers would lose QI.
Thanks dude!
Anytime.
should we stop asserting our rights because they aren't respected? don't obey in advance.
He takes Mike Huckabee's "Relaxium" he doesn't need facts. /s
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Look at those fascist goons. Reputations stained forever with the STENCH of fascism.
this is an unlawful detainment. Hope he sues the fuck out of all responsible parties.
Trump has immunity
not from civil lawsuits but the comment was directed more towards the myriad law enforcement agencies and NG involved.
[For our younger viewers] Supreme Court case Texas v. Johnson (1989) ruled that flag burning constitutes symbolic speech protected by the First Amendment. The Court held that flag burning is a form of political expression and the government cannot prohibit it without violating free speech rights.
Can you also cite the 1973 Roe v. Wade case, and then explain why abortion is no longer a federal right in 2025? For the younger viewers. Maybe -- and I am spitballin' here -- constitutionality has always been decided based on what the majority of the *current* SCOTUS says.
Because trump stacked SCOTUS with Gorsuch, Kavanaugh and Barrett with the help of McConnell. At this point we were f%*^ed ! Free speech is in danger. SCOTUS can overrule their own precedents. As you spitballed, majority rules.
Just ask ACB if the precedent has become subject to controversy*. Controversy being wholly manufactured by the far-right-industrial-complex.
But the current SCOTUS still has to make a ruling in this regard.
You are right. Luckily, I didn’t claim that they already had. Likewise, until they made a ruling overturning Roe v. Wade, they still had to make a ruling in that regard.
Oh, come on. The reason isn’t SCOTUS swinging back and forth, it’s Dems in congress who never quite got around to codifying it because then it couldn’t be used as a threat to scare money out of everyone. FAFO
Yes, it is the Democrats' fault that Republicans banned abortion. Like it will be TACO 45 leading the fascist regime.
It’s democrats fault that they didn’t codify bodily autonomy in any of the times they held all three houses. If they had SCOTUS couldn’t have done what they did. Find a fifth grader to explain it.
I believe his order said they would prosecute people if they violated other ordinances like something against "burning stuff in public". So if burning a white sheet is illegal then so is burning a flag. If you burn it in your yard then f-all they can do, elsewhere... maybe.
Is it legal to start a fire there, regardless of the flag?
First amendment activities (historically) are granted a lot of leeway - otherwise you'd just see states prosecute flag burning as 'disturbing the peace' or similar. If there was a pure oxygen source or a puddle of gasoline, no, it wouldn't be okay. But on public property with no risk? Fire away.
That was my question, too. I support this gentleman's right to burn the flag wholeheartedly, and I agree with everything he said, but I don't think you can just burn shit on the ground in public areas.
So if he had put it in a container (like a metal bucket) - he couldn’t be arrested ? Because then they couldn’t claim damage to the cobble walkway….
Agreed. That said, I doubt the guy would get any worse than a ticket if not for Trump's unconstitutional order.
He might be charged with public nuisance or fire in a federal park laws, sadly.
Even if not, he accomplished his goal, and I applaud him bringing awareness.
The Calvinball Court will decide that a 1989 case is too recent to consider stare decisis.
And they let trump desecrate a flag by signing his name on it ?
If DC has a general no burning ordinance, he may be charged for violating that rather than specifically for burning the flag, an act which is constitutionally protected under the 1st Amendment as a form of "symbolic speech," as established by the Supreme Court in the 1989 case of Texas v. Johnson.
That’s the ONLY thing that might apply. Then, the vet can sue for violating his 1A rights, which will be what they primarily decide to violate.
And violating a no burning ordinance would typically be a misdemeanor or strictly a code violation that would be a ticketable, not an arrestable, offence.
When average citizens with little power and everything to lose are braver about standing up to Trump than the powerful Democratic leaders in Congress, maybe it's time for them to step down.
4 officers to detain an old man! What is this world coming to?
It's called fascism, and it's here
Texas v. Johnson, 1989.
There are laws against burning things in public areas. Of course, we know it’s really because he burned a flag
Disgust over what this country is becoming
And this J6 insurrectionist was pardoned for using the flag to beat a cop. www.facebook.com/watch/?v=203...
Patriot
Look at those good little bootlickers delighting that they caught a bad guy for daddy. Scum.
Executive orders are not laws.
Disgusting police we will never be able to trust them again!
Executive Orders are NOT LAW. Sue sir, a jury of your peers will see it the same way.
This has already been litigated. Burning the flag is free speech.
Can I burn a photo of the flag? Burn a version with 14 stripes and 51 stars? A thin blue line flag? Can I burn the Confederate flag? Can I make an AI image of a burning American flag? Can I draw a picture of someone burning a flag and then burn that?
The tangled web we weave….
Or fly it upside down?
I can’t burn a flag, but it’s ok to desecrate it with an image of an old, fat, orange colored man with purple hands? That’s ok? Oh, and I can use it to beat police officers in a violent attack on a federal building? That is legal? Just clarifying. For a friend.
It's definitely ok to beat cops with the flag
Scalia wrote the opinion holding that flag burning was protected speech. He didn’t say you could burn one where and whenever you chose. Maybe that’s the issue here. Otherwise it’s a clearly established constitutional right and not protected by qualified immunity.
because they are fascists and they want everyone to be scared to use their constitution rights
1st Amendment right!
It looks like it took 4 officers to arrest him. That makes DC so much safer.
They finally had something to do again after chasing the sub-thrower.
Pretty normal. Cops always need like 7 guys to handle one.
Good trouble!
We need to be seen all over the country burning the flag.
And he is right. I might not like but it’s as American as can be to defend the right. The other is quashing core protected speech and conduct. Burning the flag is as political of a statement as can get.
The intentional suppression of the rights & liberties that you (ostensibly) swore to preserve, protect and defend, to the best of your ability (and you must actually be trying do that—or, by construction of the constitution, are not that at all)—is to declare yourself an enemy of the United States.
Good for you bud! Laws no longer apply in our fascist country.
If raising arms to defend our freedom from homegrown tyrants is too difficult then we will lose everything. No one is coming to save us and the sacrifices we have to make are massive. Unless someone can give me a viable second option it’s time to come to terms with what we have to do.
If the american flag falls to the ground , we are supposed to burn it and get a new one. That is what my uncle taught me. Maybe this man dropped the flag and wanted to do the honorable thing.
He was expressing his 1st amendment right of protest in one of the most historically symbolic ways possible. Burning the flag means you believe that the country you love has strayed so far away from its national values that it's no longer the country expressed by that flag. That flag is now useless.
Then, we need to have a flag burning ceremony at every protest. This country has strayed so far away from the America I know and loved, from America the whole world respected and trusted that it's unrecognizable , untrustworthy, and un-American . It's now closer to Russia than to pretrump USA. FT
No arguments here. I burned my first flag when I was like 14, at an anti-war protest in 1973. My folks were furious. I used a much less polished version of that argument to defend my actions. Didn't matter. I got the shit beat out of me anyway.
I assure you, I t’s far far worse than an American flag falling to the ground. I do agree, however, that this man is doing the honorable thing…
Many of these so-called maga patriots have no knowledge of properly displaying and/or dispensing of our American flag
We're allowed to burn flags. Are we allowed to burn them anywhere we want?
Secret Service is arresting him?
F the guys who arrested him
Nothing but lawless pigs
Good! Let's get Felon47's illegal executive order in front of a judge as fast as possible.
Jolly Good Ginger was there and got the whole thing. www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8BuGX7j/
Update: Jolly Good Ginger posted an update video that he's out of jail, was determined to have been in Park Police jurisdiction, and was only charged with lighting a fire in a park. Not in jail for a year because of the EO. They will probably try a followup clap back like Subway Sandwich guy.
I dont believe trump’s chicken scratch signature executive orders carries any weight in law… only Congress can make law. Liddle DiCKtator Donold is not a king barely human
We can’t look away. Please.
Can you burn a Don't Tread on Me flag and not get arrested by Trump's brownshirts?
HE is totalllly in HIS Right! ⚖️...⚖️...⚖️.. If you look at these Ueducated, Racist Goons the wrong way, they handcuff you and take you away!... THIS HAS TO 🛑NOW‼️
Fascists cannot hide by wrapping themselves in the flag and signing executive orders protecting a symbol over the rights of the people. This is fascist dictatorship enabled by the fascist SCOTUS supermajority retroactive nullification of the Constitution July 1, 2024. #NQNQ247
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Identify ands ruin the officers.
Mustache = fascist cunt. That is all.
This brave veteran who has been arrested for exercising his first amendment rights will be the case to go to court to throw out Trumps executive order! The Supreme Court has already determine it is constitutional to burn the flag!
If we are to get democracy back, be more like this veteran. I hate flag burning but this was acceptable in my book considering this man and his bravery and patriotism. He served 20 yrs in military. I’m sure he doesn’t like flag burning except he felt he had to get attention to the cause. Kudos.
Agreed-I hate to see the American flag being burned but in this case it is symbolic of what is happening to our country, our people and our Constitution.
I mean at this point the flag does not represent the good guys. We are the bad guys now so I don't care if they all get set on fire. Something needs to be done and it is pretty clear our elected officials aren't gonna do anything.
It’s why I’ve written to all of the protest organizers begging them to call for a Gen Strike. These protests every 4+wks aren’t doing much. All I recvd back were people saying I’m an alarmist, etc. Really? Alarmist? Guilty! Alarmed as hell how fast this dictator asshole is tearing USA to shreds!
Thank you for every single one of your efforts!!!! They are NOT in vain!!! You are not an alarmist! You and so many others including myself are witnessing tyranny right at our door!!! Do not give up!!!!🙏❤️
This message was right on time and thank you! Like so many, it feels like fascism has metastasized so quickly since January. He understands massive crowd sizes!I’ll never stop or give up. Today was tough. Thanks again!
ACAB
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Those very youthful DHS officers have probably never read the Constitution, and have no idea what the First Amendment is.
This while most Dem leaders are sitting in their cushy chairs doing not even a minimum protest.😡 Cowards!!
What are you doing?
I feel a bonfire coming on. Whose with me?
Your country’s 1st Amendment seems to be dead.
It's worse than that. Our country seems to be dead
Hero
It is his right.
Integrity and courage
Imagine being arrested for burning a flag because some bone-spur draft dodger signed an executive order that will be thrown out by the courts. Imagine following the orders of some coward trampling on peoples first amendment rights. Civil disobedience is the cornerstone of American democracy.
He will be out in an hour because Trumps EO isnt law and this isnt illegal.
Ask Kilmar Abrego Garcia about that, if you can find him.
It had to start with the first veteran and now the bar's been set
It starts now! Protect this man, lawyers should be lining up pro bono.
@us-secretservice.bsky.social I hope you realize Trump's Exec Order is unconstitutional / illegal. Burning a flag is the proper way of disposing of it. "arrange for its dignified destruction, preferably by burning the folded flag, followed by burying the ashes" You did not let him do the last part.
Texas used to have people like Molly, Ann Richards, and LBJ.
And Barbara Jordan
You say that like LBJ was a good person.
When he graduated from college, he became a teacher in a poor school populated by Mexican American children. What he saw there prompted him to craft and push through meaningful legislation to help people-how our three branch government USED to work. 36 was not perfect but he was not piss-poor 47!
Judged by today's standards, yeah.
he was a moderately decent person, with some glaring flaws. He was a certainly better human being than any of the last 4 republican presidents by a mile.
They still do. Jasmine Crockett. Beto. Greg Cesar. Gene Wu.
Cowards! This man is a hero. Every American has a right to burn the flag. I stand with veterans and guardians of the first amendment.
This is a man who believes in the rights he fought to protect. Good for him.
“Land of the free”?
I found a lot of government waste and abuse in this video! The secret service and the military are paying to arrest someone who, if his story is true, will not be prosecuted.
But it’s OK to desecrate it with a pedophile’s name and a cross? Burning a flag is a fundamental First Amendment right!
Now, he is a hero! Maybe @thefireorg.bsky.social will rush to his aid.
Who’s gonna tell the orange one that just because he issues an EO, it doesn’t become law.
Guess he's not MAGA. Is he now headed for Uganda? Oh... what if he IS MAGA? 🙀
Limits on the ultimate symbol of freedom, huh?
This is my flag, and it will remain this way until the filth is gone.
Burning wood, flags, or Barbie dolls near the White House is not protected speech. Do it in your own backyard and put it on the internet like everybody else.
What. An. A-hole.
THAT man is a patriot.
Fuck Trump
SCOTUS ruled some time ago that flag burning was free speech - not illegal!
Kinda like they ruled about abortion rights and gay marriage….. and bribery and……..
I absolutely hate your point, but I absolutely agree with your point
It is not illegal to burn the American flag.
Traitors.
Curious, wasn't it JUST today that Donald signed an executive order outlawing flag burning?
Executive order are like a memo stating a wannabe. They are not laws. This veterans actions are timely and are protected.
But, if the police act as if they are laws, they are effectively laws. Whether the arrest will stand up in court or not is a different story
And ICE are acting with each passing hour of each day, like a dangerous street gang. Thinking about Belarus. A huge protest, beaten down, literally.
His name is Jay Carney
Considering the BS that is going on in our country, I would say that the American flag IS on fire & Lady Liberty has a noose around her neck.
Hero.
trump is suppressing 1st amendments rights.
Someone needs to start a GoFundMe for his legal costs
Meanwhile the felon is burning down the whole country with no consequences. Good on the vet for standing up.
Here we go!!!
What a kind and brave man volunteering to be the test case for a blatantly unconstitutional order. A veteran continuing his service.
👏👏👏👏
Performing his first actual service, more like
I hope he engaged an attorney before the protest. It’s a BS arrest & clearly a violation of his civil rights. But we all know this regime is going to do the wrong thing at every single turn.
No doubt they are drafting plans to deport him to Africa.
I doubt they will. They wouldn't want him elevated to a king, which is what Africa will do with a white man disrespected by the U.S.
No he’s not brown.
We took some of South Africa's white folks, they might send him there in return and call it an 'exchange mission' or some shit.
So, having an atty would not mean much.
I would be dollars to donuts they release him and do not charge him with anything, thereby giving away the entire plot as to the worth of the "executive order" toilet paper
Fascism at work right there
My personal thanks to this true patriot
Since when is executive order a law?
His first what now?
You know the real concern here is that the Supreme Court is being tossed a soft ball pitch to overturn the 1989 ruling.
They'll come up with some other excuse to pin on him. Like permits or some other shit. Same thing used to deter protest But this is what people should be doing. He says you can't burn the flag? Then do it. It is a time honored form of protest and acting like it is some new escalation is stupid.
But most will say "DON'T DO THAT" because there are still people who believe we should give a fuck about someone in Mobile Alabama getting unhappy about it. Optics weren't this supreme concern during other periods of unrest.
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One more day in fascist America
Hero twice over
You guys need to do something much more than just burn a flag. Remember when we 🇬🇧 tried to tax you🇺🇲?
Those cops should be ashamed of themselves. Arresting a man exercising his 1st amendment rights while they stand around and let a draft dodger named TACO tRump boss them around and lying about the Epstein files. You're on the wrong side of history.
There are no 1st amendment rights any more he must have missed Trumps memo
Burn the Confederate flag folks. This man is a hero. The cops should be ashamed
And so should the group of national guardsman off to the side watching it happen.
And so should the 1st group of folks who didn’t want a woman president because they “just didn’t like her” or the second group who didn’t want a woman president because they “didn’t like her laugh”.Now we’re stuck with someone we all wish would bite the dust.
Burning the Confederate flag is a great idea. It's legal and it pisses off the right people.
Hero!
well, they just arrest anyway and violate the constitution and roberts and his robed cowards allow it.
They must feel so proud.
And every good lawyer in America should stand beside this man and against Trump
Brave American Hero!
I would definitely donate to this guy’s defense for fighting for our constitutional rights
So many flags, so many people to arrest.
He of all people should know to respect the flag.
He, of all people, knows to respect Constitutional rights more than the piece of fabric that is supposed to represent them. Flag-humping pedophile Trump and his bootlickers have turned the flag into a symbol of fascism.
Not true.
@newsguy.bsky.social Everyone knows he's right, too. Even Charles Savage at the NYTimes. Ps. Flag burning is THE CORRECT WAY to dispose a damaged flag
SCOTUS bout to change their minds.
But it's okay for the fat fucking 47 to autograph the flag??!!! GTFOH
Fucking unpatriotic!
And why is he being detained by people with 'Secret Service' vests?
Executive orders are NOT laws. Laws are only made by Congress. This President has made no laws except tax breaks for rich people and taking away food and health care from millions of Americans. Everything he does is through mostly illegal executive orders.
Flag burning is an excellent form of protest. It’s clear who you are mad at and no one gets hurt.
This is not legal.
Burning the US flag is a legally acceptable thing under the 1st amendment. Arresting that man for just that thing is not legal.
Maybe we should all do that..... fuck trump and his executive orders that are NOT law!
If I had a medal to give him, I would.
He's a real American hero.
I agree with him. It's not against the law to burn the American flag. 🗽🇪🇺🇺🇦🌻
The GOP thugs HATE veterans and other REAL patriots!
The cops don’t even know what they are doing. They can’t even answer what he’s being detained for. Document everything, there will be trials. This man should sue the shit out of DC metro and the regime occupying the WH.
My bad, it’s actually Secret Service detaining him. Even worse.
It says secret Service on their uniforms but since when did SS dress like that? I had to enlarge photo. I thought they were police or the new fake ICE. Yes, you’re right! Even worse.
There are patrols around WH that act and dress more like LEOs. I know when we think SS that it’s dudes in suits and aviators with earbud in one ear. But they do have patrol forces on the ground that essentially perform the same duties as regular law enforcement just parameters around the White House
Ok. I know I watch too much TV.
Can't the officers simply decline to violate the constitution?
Short answer is probably yes. The longer answer is evidently no
The even longer answer is that they probably have been chomping at the bit for an opportunity to openly violate the constitution
This administration is going to have to payout so much money due to lawsuits
Too bad they don't give two shits about any laws
Future administrations will have to pay for it, this administration ignores the law. Either way, it still means us taxpayers are the ones paying it.
Hasn’t it been litigated that burning the flag is protected speech? Or is SCOTUS ready to overturn that ruling also?
Yes, and yes.
Taco is wrong, this man is right. That’s all he was doing. The charges will probably either be dismissed or not formally filed. Taco just wants the headline.
One guy is great, but many people burning flags at the same time would be the best way to demonstrate the idiocy of Trump's EO.
Look at all the uniformed clowns
Lafayette park. I suppose there will be more of this, until dear leader brings us all to heel.
Not gonna happen.
💔 *&^%$#@! nazis.
trump is a fascist
Supreme Court passed the law that ALLOWS him to do exactly what he did ❤️🤍💙
Only Congress can pass a law. Executive Orders are not laws. Supreme Court decisions are not law. Only Congress gets to do that. That said, the SC did affirm the right to burn a flag, if you are so inclined.
If you read in the comments, I corrected my mistake after Mr Perfect jumped my ass too. Maybe if we had an EDIT button on here....
Actually, scotus can not pass a law- just decide if it is allowed under the Constitution. But, given how far they have driven into the weeds ( eg. all the times they struck down lower court rulings affirming the right to habeus corpus, eg. Boasberg, Xinis ) - less relevant with every passing day.
Excuse me, but a perfect person pointed out my mistake. They did not "pass" the law, but confirmed it is "protected speech." My bad & I'm sorry I upset Mr Perfect
No need to apologize. The point is the government cannot prohibit protected symbolic speech, a first amendment right.That said, the three stooges Gorsuch Kavanagh, Barrett can join Robert’s, Thomas to try to overturn 1st amendment.Sickening!
The SC doesn't pass laws...
Whatever Mr Perfect..... you obviously get the gist of my cooment
It wasn't a knock. Don't be so sensitive.
They only selectively pay attention to the Constitution
and the administration only selectively pays attention to SCOTUS.
SCOTUS doesn't pass laws. They ensure that laws are constitutional and they protect the rights of individuals and states.
Proper display of the American flag says if the flag is flown after dark then it must be lit up so it can be properly seen. If you walk your neighborhoods at night you will see maybe 1%-5% of home owners that fly their American flags 24x7x365 do not light them at night. Most are in need of burning.
Help stop the regime!! Nationwide PROTESTS September 1st. Find a protest near you for September 1st, Monday, Labor Day. Go to findaprotest.info And help spread the info about the protests by posting nonstop on every platform. We need 3.5% to show up. SHOW UP!!! Resist! This needs to be big!
Fuck trump that traitor ass cunt.
Stand Strong ✊
Oh boy
The oppressors are being quite gentle with this hostage. I guess the training manual says only wrestle black and brown folks to the ground even when they are not resisting.
He's not wrong. If we value the right of free speech, we must support him.
I would argue that burning anything - the flag, trash, a newspaper - in the middle of the street anywhere isn't terribly legal, punishable by a fine and that should be the end of it.
I hate seeing the American flag burned, but I agree that people have a Constitutional right to burn the flag, and a veteran probably has a better right than most.
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We need about 100 people showing up and all burn the flag at the same time. If I lived closer I would do it
He didn't do anything illegal. the First Admendment is clear and this has been in front of the Supreme Court before, of course it was not a court of loons
This is a test of The orange ones executive order. SCOTUS - here we come!
Was he arrested or just detained
mine is upside down
Uh, isn't he going to be executed now? Didn't the orange felon sign an "executive order" that states if anyone burns a flag, they're executed? Am I remembering that correctly? Or was it something else? Felony? I dunno. Still a wild thing to happen here...
But beating police officers with it is fine, right?! Plastering Trump's face on it is fine? Wearing it like a cape is fine?
Fascism is and has been here here and is growing. The people will need to put the end to this government that is being forced on us.
That is an American patriot.
I'm sorry to say that every time I see a person in uniform whether it be a police officer or a military person I think 'what a fucking prick'
He’s being arrested for exercising his 1st amendment right.
That is what the headline says