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Ozma @rowyourbot.bsky.social

How truth operates in society is one of my lifelong questions. Societies can work BEAUTIFULLY while organized around untruths (kings, priesthoods). But there still has to be a core way of addressing truth that works or they fall apart. Maybe there’s ‘survival truths’? AI will threaten that one.

aug 8, 2025, 9:07 pm • 2 0

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Jared Friedman🇺🇦 @silkscreenfiend.bsky.social

Yeah, it seems like the most salient feature of AI is that it has no core, and will say anything to anyone. In that way it's actually really Trumpian.

aug 8, 2025, 9:10 pm • 3 1 • view
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Ozma @rowyourbot.bsky.social

Yes. 20 years ago in class discussion of ‘lying’ popped up and I found almost everyone in the class prefers to be lied to if the truth is upsetting. I hadn’t know I was an outlier on that. Believing lies or being in a fog of untruth is a disturbing idea to me even if nothing happens. I NEED to know.

aug 8, 2025, 9:16 pm • 1 0 • view
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Jared Friedman🇺🇦 @silkscreenfiend.bsky.social

Kind of interesting they were so self-aware though! I would expect everyone to say they want the truth, and then in the moment to prefer the lie...

aug 8, 2025, 9:23 pm • 1 0 • view
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Ozma @rowyourbot.bsky.social

Can’t say why it sounds horrifying—maybe a similar thing to society for the self (to me)? If your primary thing in life is to BE then you base this on lies where’s the feedback? You aren’t a self-formed being you are instead a created/manipulated being. Tho yeah, OK —lots of my beliefs may be false.

aug 8, 2025, 9:32 pm • 1 0 • view
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Ozma @rowyourbot.bsky.social

They started giving lots of examples and for each example I would say ‘Nobody better lie to me about THAT!’ And they’d say ‘oh, I definitely want to be lied to about that.’ Eventually agreed if they felt good with lies but bad with truth they prefer lies. Even living in an illusion!

aug 8, 2025, 9:28 pm • 1 0 • view
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Jared Friedman🇺🇦 @silkscreenfiend.bsky.social

Wow, that's super interesting! I'm with you, I have a hard enough time getting my bearings even when people aren't lying to my face.

aug 8, 2025, 9:30 pm • 1 0 • view