Or "National Socialism".

Don't do that enough of these morons already think nazis were socialist and believe communism and fascism are the same thing

Well they're going to be terribly surprised when they learn who fought the Battle of Berlin..

damn, I thought you were somewhat intelligent. nevermind.

Big mistake there, he's always been dumb

emphasis on "somewhat" lmao

I have long since learnt my lesson of not thinking about a white liberal man as an intelligent life form.

And also explained why him alongside other male white liberal podcasters are fully supporting Gavin Newsom's trolling tactics

Yeah, what happened to private ownership of the means of production?

I'll be buying AMD from now on.

I wonder if this share will go to his ‘library’ with him as well.

Call this shit out. This is not communism, and Brian is carrying water for capitalist pigs when he says it is. Absolutely disgusting, misleading bullshit.

McCarthy is smiling widely in his grave.

Or extortion

Has Intel not heard of Target?

Lmao that's fascism. Nowhere does this give the workers the control over the means of production. This is the government as a corporation. F a s c i s m.

I wish people would just look up the most basic definition of words before they boldly posted such dumb things. Bring back giant dictionaries in every home.

National Socialism.

Hitler went after communists and socialists and union leaders FIRST. The Nazis were NOT SOCIALISTS.

It’s called lining his personal coffers. Fucking CON.

Biden started this stuff. The idea is that none of these corporations would be profting if not for the global economy that we built so we're owed money and this is just capitalism. I don't agree but this is their thought process.

Luigy

No wonder so many Americans fear actual communism. They’ve been successfully trained to believe the word “fascism” is spelled “communism”.

Everything Trump touches dies - good luck, Intel.

"Mob boss" mentality. "Hey, now I own half your business."

How many of those shares will roll over to Trump Crime Family and how long before that starts ?

Just like China!

Not what communism is Brian

This sucks. What do suppose he plans to do with $11B? Perhaps restore Medicaid, USAID, SNAP, etc., etc. Oh, wait, I forgot, Trump will use the money to buy more crypto currencies, or perhaps to have his face carved on Mt. Rushmore, or try to buy a Noble Peace Prize. Shoot. Me. Now.

Unless we start treating the "gop" as a criminal enterprise, he11 bent on destroying the United States, there will be no bottom to this illegal and unconstitutional behavior. #endthegop

Putin is failing in Russia. Krasnov is doing all of this to fuck up our economy. Russia govt is “borrowing” rubles from civilian banks to keep the war going. Nothing else matters there right now. He’s in the ropes with his people. WHY DONT THE US NEWS COVER WHATS HAPPENING INSIDE RUSSIA ?

They barely cover what’s happening inside the US. The news media is not your friend, they wanted more Trump because he’s good for ratings.

AND media is owned by who?? He who owns the narration can write and report whatever they want. They are not just Trump supporters they're the ones driving this storm.

Your half of the media is controlled too The worldview of both liberals and conservatives were built for them by propaganda Think about what both "sides" agree on. Capitalism good socialism bad Who does this serve The people? Or The parasitic bludgercunts that rule over and sacrifice our lives

What do you mean "my half"? As far as I know I don't have any ownership of any media. This isn't a Democrat vs republican thing. This is a disgustingly, filthy rich vs everyone else.

The liberal half of the media It's a capitalism vs socialism thing Capitalism if you're all for giving the disgustingly filthy rich more money and power or socialism if you care about everyone else Neither liberal nor conservative media frame it this way which is intentional

Which liberal media are you talking about?

All of it

Let me re-phrase, who are you considering to be "liberal" media?

Murdock

He's not the only one. Several newspapers changed hands and then agendas.

Amanpour and Company on PBS has a cleaner version of world news topics. She covers main stories in the U.S. not just England. She also can interview someone WITHOUT interrupting them like most news shows do today!

The situ in media is beyond control. There are no sports on tv without paying for additional PPV or a monthly fee for something we got for free. Their lack of purpose is bottomless except, for I dunno, enabling genocide for clicks?

Bc it would be counter productive to their goal? Reality has no place in America rn.

Actually Brian this is a specific aspect of communism known as "nationalization". However, Democrats aren't communists so let's just support social programs. Now that Trump has paved the way, we can nationalize the oil industry and use the revenues for national health care when Newsome is elected.

Sweet jesus.

Fuck off fascist sympathiser you don't know what the fuck your talking about

Does Trumpster think that Intel processors are the way of the future?

Or another Trump family grift in real time.

I fucking wish he was a communist

The right has moved so far right that they’re now on the far left.

The horseshit theory and its consequences.

Holy shit you probably think we should've been more evil in Korea and Vietnam. Or that China is invading...

imagine being this wrong about what words mean

The bourgeois state making deals to keep particular companies afloat and assure the swindler regime gets a cut is not communism. If that’s communist, so are mafias.

Lessons from Putin.

~boooooooo communism boooooooo~

State sponsored capitalism!

So whats the truth?

ex·tor·tion /ikˈstôrSH(ə)n,ekˈstôrSH(ə)n/ noun the practice of obtaining something, especially money, through force or threats. "he used bribery and extortion to build himself a huge, art-stuffed mansion"

At least it isn't socialism. 🙄

Yada Yada Yada Whatever EPSTEIN FILES ?

Socialism, what's next, a government controlled economy?

WTF are we doing now?? Every day i feel like I’m in bizzaro land.

Good time to buy AMD.

I wonder what Trump's cut is? Cause you know he got something.

Communists be rolling on the floor, tears in their eyes. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

Last I checked, Intel was really struggling with a lot of its markets, so this will work out great for American Tax Payers.

Well, socialism, but yeah.

Otherwise known as extortion.

its not communism if the state is run by capitalists you tool

Not true! The definition of communism is when business' are owned by the state. Period.

And 10% isn't owned by the people or a state it's owned by capitalists and propped up with your taxes

Please open a book that wasn't written by the JBS

Thank you

the british empire with its indian colony, was communist?

No it isn't. You really need to educate yourself about what's actually happening in other countries. Public companies exist everywhere outside of the US and it is NOT communism.

Show me in the communist manifesto where it says this.

Y’all are right! This is TOTALLY the debate we should be having right now!

Learning something is always a good thing, Matt!

Pedagogy is looking pretty thin on the ground round these parts, folks!

Well, no shit, Matt, people are watching fascism happening and saying, ""gee golly garsh! Is this the communisms?" That's why they need to learn what words mean.

And this specifically matters because…?

Your being manipulated into upholding a suicidal system that is designed to fuck over humanity and destroy the biosphere that sustains your life Your willful ignorance matters because you are doing the bidding of fascists by not seeking out alternatives to the mass extinction that capitalism caused

So, how’s college been treating you? Pretty well? Also, *you’re.

Words mean things, Matt. What specifically are you whining about? What's got your wooly willy pubes all in a twist that people are correcting someone say that something is the opposite of what it is?

Both sides of the debate agree that what Trump did/is continuing to do is bad. But rather than joining forces to stop it, they appear to believe that it’s much more important/pressing to fight amongst themselves to define terms instead. Dunno, could be important, but no one has yet convinced me…

Because Fascism is bad and Communism is good.

[citation needed]?

Blud, who started it? I swear westoids have the thinnest skins.

Its not a debate when one person is just wrong

youtu.be/u0Crgt4avV0?... If Hitler&the Axis powers only invaded Russia The entire rest of the capitalist imperialist world would have happily let them wipe out everyone there That's who all anti-communists really are to this very day When liberals use the hammer& sickle it tells us they are fascist

Shut up nerd

youtu.be/u0Crgt4avV0?... If Hitler&the Axis powers only invaded Russia The entire rest of the capitalist imperialist world would have happily let them wipe out everyone there That's who all anti-communists really are to this very day When liberals use the hammer& sickle it tells us they are fascist

But what Trump is doing, would not even qualify as state capitalism. He seems to be attempting to combine state and corporate power and ownership into one entity. That is fascism.

Some argue that it was owned by the workers because the USSR was a dictatorship of the proletariat. However, because the workers didn’t have agency or control of the workspace, it’s not direct (if any) ownership of the means of production. So it’s not communism.

You’re talking about state capitalism. State capitalism was what happened in the USSR. The Soviets identified as socialist but the state ownership of the business was considered state capitalism, even at the time.

One politically illiterate donkey vs another politically illiterate donkey.

Lol who told you that?

So confident, so wrong. Dunning Krueger remains undefeated

No it isn't? Fucking boomers, man, lmao

is the state communist? no. did Intel workers gain ownership of Intel? no. the US government, the government for a capitalist state, now has a 10% stake in Intel after being told to do so by the US president, who is a fascist you keep saying "the definition of communism" but you haven't defined it

Both google and Wikipedia are free to use, i suggest you try them. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism

No it isn’t. You’re wrong

It's meant as control not just a type of ownership. The control part is what they mean by own. This deal gives us no control over the company - it's non-voting stock and this is just capitalism. Taking a profit from one company (Biden created this program) isn't fascism, the US already does that.

The idea that we are entitled to some of these profits is because the govt spent money and time to lay the path that Intel is now blazing. None of this is happening without government interaction. I'm not saying I agree, just what they are thinking.

I’m a communist and neither I nor anyone else who’s a communist defines communism this way. What you’re doing is trying to impugn the reputation of the Left by saying a literal American Nazi doing Nazi things is actually a communist doing communist things! This rhetoric is dangerous to the Left!

What you are telling every single klansman and neo Nazi is that if they engage in violence against the Left e.g. beat us up, stab us shoot us, bomb our homes libs like you will sit back and do nothing as they take care of your political adversaries on the Left. You’re doing first they came bullshit

so confident, and so ill-informed

That's owned by the workers. In socialism, it's owned by the state.

Remember: Comrade Ronald Reagan the greatest Leninist of our time said it himself! A true deciple of Deng Xiaoping. /j

The lead rotted her nasty boomer brain

That's not true but even if it were, this business is not owned by the state. Having a stake is not ownership. Why is not understanding communism the hill you want to die on.

Absolutely not.

well no but actually no

That's not the definition of communism. That's never been the definition of communism.

Is that what they taught you in school during the Cold War

It's not Capitalism if the state owns companies, you rancid piss bottle. At least a tool is useful.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_c... FIx your brain.

How in the fuck is insulting people that are correct helping you resist fascism? In what dimension is this actually helpful at all? Why are you lot more angry at the left than the fascists currently ruining everything?

Capitalism is when the capitalist class dominates society and owns and runs industry on behalf of their class, for private profit. They nationalize things to their capitalist state sometimes, when it's in their collective interest. It's still capitalism though.

yes it is, it even has a name, State Capitalism.

No there is a term for this it's called State capitalism

Fascism is the fusion of the government and the capitalist class and their businesses at the expense of democratic control of the government and workers rights.

Do you seriously think Trump is a communist and not a fascist? Oh sorry, first I should ask: do you know what those words mean?

so the Chinese are capitalists - you tool?!

China is State Capitalism under the guise of communism. Maybe try actually studying how China's economy actually works in practice.

Yes

Yes, the capitalist roaders won control of the CPC in the 1970s

youtube.com/watch?v=5KpS... Nobody wanted it and nobody had a say. Worth a watch. See also the second thought video shock doctrine. russia hasn't been communist sadly for over 30 years a global tragedy. China Cuba Vietnam have had to adapt to avoid destruction by the evil American empire as well.

Oops!

Communism? Extremely loud incorrect buzzer*

So how many shares did the child molester purchase? This guy is running a criminal enterprise from the White House.

I wonder how the Intel shareholders feel about that.

That's not communism. Nobody has ever really seen true communism. Humans are not capable of it.

If capitalist powers didn't fuck over socialist countries most if the world would be socialist today and America would have backup in their non struggle for liberation

The companies, universities, law firms, and long term media behemoths are just capitulating to all of his demands without a fight. It's incomprehensible.

This isn’t communism. It is oligarchy; or it is monarchy, where the ruler owns the realm; or it is “corporatism,” as Mussolini called it.

Why did I read that as "To my great horror..."

Dictator

Did Trump just hijack 10% of Intel? How does he just get $11B worth of company for no cost to us? There is mischief afoot, methinks.

MAGA likes and supports communism. Hmmm….

#ReleaseTheEpsteinFiles Also, please consider signing my petition:

What a load of shit.

God dammit you’re bad at this.

It's only communism if it's from the Democrat region of France. Otherwise it's sparkling Partiotistic Property Redistribution.

Communism does not advocate for redistribution

It’s not COMMUNISM, the working class isn’t in control of this, the CAPITALISTS ARE. Why is it so hard for you people to understand this.

70 plus years of using the word "communism" incorrectly by both the tyrants and those talking about the tyrants led to its debasement. Informally it has come to mean generically "control of too much by too few to the detriment of the population". "We" are headed down a *very* dangerous path.

It’s so frustrating bc that definition is what capitalism is! I just hope that if I talk to enough people maybe they’ll stop being so afraid of working class power and understand we, the many, need to take control. It’s the only way out of this. That’s why capitalists fearmonger over it.

Motivated to not understand this

I think he knows that he’s just calling out Donald hypocrisy to communism. That’s the impression I got from it.

Plenty of liberals, even educated ones, don’t understand what socialism and communism are. And regardless, this still spreads misinformation about what communism is and perpetuates distrust of it. It’s also not actually hypocritical of Trump because what he’s doing is fascism not communism.

I agree 20% with your assessment that "communism" is not ipso facto bad. Unfortunately, there are evil people who take control resulting in nearly every case to tyranny of one sort or another.

The vast majority of the time socialists have gained power the US/West has swooped in and sabotaged it. The US has staged multiple coups and decimated countries over this. Capitalists react to socialist movements with violence, so the working class needs to protect ourselves from that threat.

Ask yourself why you’ve been taught to assume that working class power necessarily requires tyranny. Tyranny against who? Why would a movement about working class power and control over our own society and modes of production necessarily be oppressive? It doesn’t make sense. You’ve been lied to.

I think you are right, working class power does not require tyranny. What I do think however is that wherever there is power, narcissists and thieves seek to gain access to it. I believe civilized people have not yet learned the magic necessary to prevent theft of society's resources.

There definitely needs to be guardrails against that, and communism is the best system to prevent it because private property would be abolished, wealth dispersed, and power structures would be democratized.

I am an old computer geek who participated in and celebrated the rise of the internet. Information democratized, explosion and sharing of creative expression, wealth built and shared widely! <20 years later: enshittification. Screwed by arrogant control freaks. Wishing for better guardrails.

The Internet was ruined by capitalist. We can do even better than guardrails to prevent them from causing more damage.

Theres ofc a long journey to this point, it will take a long time to abolish class divisions. It will take time for our culture to shift to one where people take care of each other and don’t feel the need to compete for resources and control. Capitalism fuels these problems, communism is an antidote

I know that. I was just offering a different perspective into their perspective of saying what they said and why they said it. I am aware that both of them are wrong about what socialism or communism is.

This only works if there is hypocrisy and there is not. This is just fascism.

He’s been falsely calling everybody at communist for a decade. That’s the hypocrisy.

But he's not doing anything related to communism. So there is no hypocrisy.

I completely understand what you’re saying. I also understand that they are wrong. And I understand that what they are saying is wrong. I’m just adding contact to why they are saying what they are saying.

Not us! It's them. You know the idiots who LIE all the time & don't realize that their bloated orange taco & his rich friends are killing our Republic. Heaven help us!

Who am I responding to? If you want to fight against the capitalist class who is controlling and destroying everything, educate yourself about what socialism and communism really are, and get to work organizing with us to build working class power to take their power away. It’s the only way.

elephantsinourrooms.com/2022/08/30/f...

If you don't understand what's happening, for example that is not communism, how can you make changes for the better.

What a Shitty investment. Intel is dead.

Especially since trump claims the government spent nothing. It was a communist shakedown.

No deal propagated by trump is good for America.

Wait, the CEO that trump said should be fired? Now he's highly respected? Trump was right, he should be fired for caving to communism

If Intel gave shares, what did they receive? 'Under the terms of today's announcement, the government agrees to purchase 433.3 million primary shares of Intel common stock at a price of $20.47 per share, equivalent to a 9.9 percent stake in the company.'

Only 10% communism.

Only .00000000000000000001% public ownership but no control 100% capitalism

No. Not communism in any way, shape, or form.

Nationalising industry? Adolf approves.

Stste sponsored extortion

"now fully owns and controls 10%". 10%. You control nothing.

Imagine the effect on Intel when the administation decides to sell, or to *threaten* to sell that 9.9% stake in Intel on a Friday afternoon, if trump decides he doesn't like something they did and may not be able to control. No normal investor could do that, but trump would. (Ex. "tariffs")

The state owning the means of production is more like Socialism, a bigger bugaboo to the oligarchs than Communism. Under Communism, the strategy is clear. Just subvert and take over the Party and you've got everything, like the Russian oligarchs. Still the plan. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism

Which is not in any way shape or form what this it

It’s so weird that every bit of news is equally unreal and not surprising at all.

"We will take America🇺🇸 without firing a shot... we will bury you!" -Soviet Premier Nikita Khrushchev.🇷🇺

If Trump isn’t transferring the means of production to the workers’ hands, it’s not communism. Workers owning the means of production is one of communism’s most fundamental tenets. Also you’ve used the capitalist Russian flag, not the communist Soviet flag.

Also your post is homophobic as shit, why is it so hard for you lot to make fun of Trump without resorting to homophobia and transphobia? No wonder you moderate conservatives love Newsom’s bigoted ass so much.

#NASTYTRUMP

that's actually fascism, but you're politically illiterate

Wrong. Try again.

The lead is stronk with this one

the merging of state and corporate power is textbook fascism let me know when intel is expropriated from the capitalist class and put in the hands of the workers

You are correct. And when folks ask why there is so little resistance to the old conman's regime, there's the answer. The big money wants him there. At the same time, nothing better illuminates the rot and degradation of today's ruling class than the person they chose to run this shit-show.

A boomer that doesn't know anything. Shocking.

I feel like the American lack of understanding of political concepts is extremely deliberate on the part of their political establishment.

Mccarthyism has certainly melted their brains beyond repair. It's far too late for the yanks now. BALKANISE.

It's baked into our education system. I never even had a teacher suggest I read Marx until I was in college and had to do an assignment on Marxist literary theory for a class on literary criticism for my English degree.

Very convincing argument. I am convinced.

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Ok boomer

Old person wrong. More at 11

I cast deflecting swat on your retort, retargeting you

how is it wrong to call a fascist (who is doing fascism and state capitalism) a fascist?

The duck quacked several times and then got offended it was being called a duck.

Well done for being confidently wrong lmfao

Uhhh… it’s literally fascism. Fascism involves constant fearmongering and very intense in-group out group thought, magical thinking, nostalgia for an imagined past, jailing and killing of opponents and random people, and the rapid centralization of power. Almost all of that has happened here

And you’re a c*nt—at least BTC is CUTE, you’re a gross, hag. Stop being vengeful because you can’t get laid!

I don't know what that other guy thinks this is but it's not fascism nor communism. This isn't a controlling interest, it's passive ownership - the govt has no say in anything other than collecting a check. Without any govt control over the means of production, it's just capitalism.

In conjunction with the rest of the Trump regime's political and economic policies, this blending of government and corporate interests is in fact pretty standard fascism.

This is by the literal definition - state capitalism. The state has zero control over Intel and this is non-voting stock. The purpose here is that we feel these massive corporations owe us for building and defending the industry in which they thrive. This is a Biden program. I don't agree w/it

This thread is excellent, literally everyone is wrong and they're all arguing about it.

The hypocrisy is lost on so many. Republicans are okay with the government-owned business but social security, Medicare, and the ACA are socialist programs. I'll retire to Bedlam.

there is actually law that prevents the government to be involved in competition with private industry.

Can trump pretend he is a president and do presidential things for a while, instead of all the crazy shot he is doing? He should be focused on the economy instead of destroying it......

A capitalist economy doing well is bad for the 99% of us that aren't capitalists The capitalist economy crashing is also good for the capitalist class and bad for the other 99% of us Fuck their economy it's tied to our misery

How long before he bankrupts Intel

Please point to the section of the text that shows a stateless, classless society (you can't because such a thing is impossible)

Last week, he demanded the man resign, yet today he's calling him highly respected. This is bullshitting on a galactic level. Why are we letting this happen?

Because Americans don't know what capitalism is they don't know what socialism communism or anarchy is either so nobody has the tools to even recognise how fucked they are let alone an understanding of alternatives to it

He demanded he resign and stock fell 11%. Then he demands stock as payment for the already awarded but mostly unpaid grants. Which business is next?

Do you think anyone should look into any of his friends and family trading in Intel stock or is that too much to ask?

Who would look? Not the SEC. Presidents should be mindful of their remarks that may influence stock performance but previous staff members have said Trump enjoys making comments and then watching how his words influence the market.

I wonder how it will influence the market when he says 'Argh!' and dies. Too bad he won't get to see it.

Umm...pretty much! The right has goes gone so far right that they've hit the beyond far left.

Communism, capitalism, potayto, potahto

I wonder where Trump got the idea to extort companies… His good friend Vladimir?

Just what I said.. glad to have it confirmed

you’re both wrong. it’s fascism.

You are right, but the country has a history about "communism" - something some folks would understand how negative that was- this is our first real experience of fascism. SO I chose the word on purpose as it does fit the definition of gov. control of corps

this country has a history with communism because of red scare garbage. what you’re seeing is fascism and capitalism, not communism. the workers aren’t controlling anything.

You are right there

Rtumps following in Putin's footsteps.

I would like Felon47 to tell me EXACTLY what the Intel chip does. With detail. Not adjectives.

State Capitalism: where they force private companies to bend the knee for political power.

Trump can bankrupt them.

Wrong! It is called Authoritarian Capitalism. The same system China has

Your nazi blood boiling again?

Ok Buttercup. Since you brought it up I'll give you a little advise. Learn German History before opening your mouth. Not every German was a Nazi. And the difference between Trump and Hitler? One got elected by the People the other did not. America had a choice and that's what makes me mad!

Woah, guess I activated the ancestral memories! Don't worry, being nazi is normal in the west now. You don't have to hide anymore, hun.☺️

Oh Sweetie you know nothing, but I am curious Any reason why you think me being a Nazi? Do you know me? Do you know my Grandfather? Because I don't. He died fighting the Nazis. Next time you think it is ok to insult me and have no knowledge what you are talking about I will report you.

Why are you getting angry, I am sure he did.😏

You noticed? I'm impressed!

Your Nazi collaborator blood activating?

Stupid can fly. Look at the Air Force One.

💯🤝

‘which is what Intel does’……

that's not communism. or socialism. this is fascism. see next post:

the reason you think it's communism is because socialist countries with communist party leadership own stake in private enterprise. the difference is that in socialism, the people and the party control the corporation. in fascism, it's just rich dudes using the state to get cheap stocks.

I guess you mean in modern China? Otherwise what do you mean leadership in socialist countries owned stake in enterprises?

Modern China, Vietnam, and Cuba all have some private industry that is at least partially owned and controlled by "the state"

Right, but for Vietnam and China they're more "socialist" than socialist. Meanwhile, other than ppl just being partisan on this thread, I'm not sure what the outrage is over government owning part of a company when there is Amtrak, the US postal service, etc.

But I definitely do not get your point about this being related to fascism to own 10% of Intel.

You know, who else calls fascism, communism, fascists

www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7ys...

Yes

We need to normalize calling them commies. Because it’s true.

it's not though

Or you could use words that make sense? That's an option too?? Fascist is literally right there???

Fuck trump

The government owning shares in a corporation is not Communism.

It’s how Putin became wealthy. Pay to play in the state

Extortion

American does something Americanly Dipshit liberals - whoa hey this is like the soviet union!

Shouldn't your fat ass be on twitter?

Shouldn't your dumb ass be at school learning the definition of words so you don't look like a dumb fuck like maga

Lol stfu you self.righteous cornball

Shouldn't you stupid ass yanks be in hell?

Shouldn't you, dog botherer?

*corrects liberals for not understanding the literal definition of communism and begging them to read marx and kropotkin* liberals: "wowza! to stormfront-lite you, leftoid!"

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So if you agree what’s your problem?

Does that somehow make it ok?

? Make what ok?

A bully that picks on people for their weight ? you'll fit right in on twitter

His name is Gordo obviously he doesn't care about being fat Some of you ppl need a hobby

As you're a yank, I'll let you off this time as you've probably never happened upon the name Gordon.

never give a yank the benefit of the doubt

NEVER

Name has nothing to fucking to with it your coming the cunt at someone for their weight and you know fuck all about them. Some of you need to grow the fuck up

Get therapy

Get back to calling people names Kid

Your name is Dive Bar T?

sit down you silly old cunt

Well, what neo-McCarthyists like maga call communism, anyway.

From whence are the raw materials sourced? Not China any more.

He will now sell it to himself

And if he gets his way, in time, Intel will hold 10% of their own company.

State-run Business formerly known as “Intel”, soon to be known as “trumpTel “

Not state run what the fuck are you talking about

The US govt owns 10% of this company now. Since when is that a free-market economy type of scenario?

You know capitalism doesn't mean free market right?

The optics are terrible. There has never been a more corrupt administration than the Trump admin, so what is their goal?

The other half of the suicide cult is just as corrupt they're just not as open and honest about it the goal of capitalism is to consume ourselves to extinction for profits the 99% of us that are nothing more than disposable batteries won't see any of Both parties uphold this suicidal system

Total coup and dictatorial power with zero democratic recourse

The working class siezing the means of production and everything being run democratically

This isn’t communism, it literally describes state capitalism. Communism wipes out private companies, no Intel, no stock, no profits. State capitalism is when the govt takes a stake in a company that still runs for private profit. Screaming “communism” just proves you don’t know the difference.

In academic circles that comment is fully correct. The "leaders" of the Soviet Union (and others) debased the name. It is well known in the non-academic world that "communist" has been stretched to imply ruthless tyrannical control of the population and imperialism. Informal but informative.

I'm surprised to see the left in the US pull that card from the deck, usually it's the right that mislabels and yells "communism" when they dislike a policy.

BTC is making a point here. He is saying that what Twitler is saying partially fits of the definition of communism. He’s saying it To the right-wing nutjobs. To annoy them.

I suppose that's more than possible because though I quit watching podcasts about Trump a few years ago, BTC was sensible and not prone to inaccurate information or sensationalizing. That's why when I read his post I was stunned. Thanks for replying and pointing out a side I hadn't considered.

💯

Indoctrination of Americans taught them to misuse the terms socialism and communism; instead of understanding the definition of each they use the words to shock and frighten, to override their critical thinking by creating instant and overwhelming feeling of dislike. Pavlov would be proud.

Our ignorance is pretty embarrassing these days. Even from the ones opposed to Trump. But some of us are listening and paying attention to the difference.

It part and parcel of US culture; even your school text books are heavy with indoctrination. Biases are a normal part of every society but the US is exceptionally well equipped in spreading propaganda including within it's borders. I hope rational folk hurry and take control of the White House.

That's the problem. They are opposed to Trump and Republicans. If Trump suddenly became a humanitarian they would be opposed to humanitarianism because it'd be a Trump / Republican idea. This is what's killed America.

We make children say our oath every single school day from day one to the last day of education. Every day. Not even China or North Korea do that. Even Hitler felt that saying the oath once was enough. Doing it every day is indoctrination or rather, beating it into your head.

Indeed Friend of mine said to an American, " We are patriotic but not so obsessive that we talk to our flag". That indoctrination is an effective tool used to manipulate American minds; used to shame anyone who disagrees with government policy. "You're not a REAL American unless you ____"

Also, if I recall correctly the "under God" phrase wasn't even added until the 50s. That's probably something other countries don't include as well.

That always bothered me, for a country that supposedly likes separation of church and state...🤷‍♀️. The establishment clause seems to have been eroded over the years.

You are correct, that (“Under God) was added shortly before I was born; this was covered in our (in USA) history class, in a public school, and adding that to the pledge was an overreaction by communist fearing types in the government. I don’t remember if Joe McCarthy was involved, I suspect so.

It's because the right and the "left" here aren't far apart

Yes, and over the past few decades, they both shifted to the right. GOP is now extreme right.

youtu.be/u0Crgt4avV0?... If Hitler&the Axis powers only invaded Russia The entire rest of the capitalist imperialist world would have happily let them wipe out everyone there That's who all anti-communists really are to this very day When liberals use the hammer& sickle it tells us they are fascist

Thank you! THANK YOU!!

Owning the means of production IS communism. So BTC is making a point here, that what Dementia Donnie said partially fits the definition of communism. Fascism is corporations owning the government, which is actually closer to what’s happening. I’m not sure if you are being purposely blind here.

That’s incorrect. Owning 10% of a company is not controlling the means of production, it's equity shares. Fascism isn’t just corps owning govt. It’s ultranationalism, cult of leader, suppression of opposition & violent control. Words mean things. Mislabeling muddies the fight against the real threat

Words do mean things and when a government forcibly takes a stake in a private company, it's not commmunism, it's worse. If you don't think this is part of a real threat, then you don't understand the greater concept.

It is not controlling it directly, but is extortion by DT, more or less. I stand by my fascist (Nazi) label for this administration. All of your other requirements are happening. Not 100% all over yet, just targeted areas so far, but they keeps expanding their activities. With Republicans’ approval.

Agreed. It's more like a Russian oligarchy fascist takeover. Communism would be so much better, honestly.

Who controls the means of production? Is it workers? Or is it still the businessman who owns the company? The formal ownership of the means of production does not translate to its seizing, and it does not abolish class. It's not even on the road to doing so.

If the right is using "communism" whenever they don't like something that does not even look like it, I will use "communism" whenever I like too

Words matter. Blurring them plays into the right’s hands. If everything oppressive gets called communism, then the right can hijack language to smear social programs, unions, or equity as if they’re the same as dictatorship. Naming fascism clearly is how we hold it accountable, and how we resist it.

It's true. It's also true you should not get Goody Two Shoed. If others don't play fair, you should not play fair either.

Dude you're maligning revolutionaries. You're buying into McCarthyism.

I'm not sure of what you mean

You're doing harm. You're not "fighting dirty." No, you're fighting for the fascists by confusing the language of liberation. Call them what they are: Fascists. Stop slandering communists. And please look at this country's history HONESTLY to see what communists have actually done.

Well, there are different way to see it, calling them communism is a way to make fun of them too

No, it's a way to keep people from organizing and it's a way to spread ignorance. We're on your side. What you're doing is divisive and unhelpful.

"America paid nothing for it", it does look like the state stealing private property. I'm not a fan of the concept, especially on this scale, but it does match

I'm not the doing doing it, it's not my thread. But pointing out at similarity with communism and at the hypocrisy does help

Many people are unaware that fascism is on the far right spectrum of governing while communism is on the far left. The two concepts are diametrically opposed. You cannot be a fascist communist.

Is your brain melting? Is it made of rancid meat? Is that how those words got typed?

It's a far cry from Communism the same way Nerf is a far cry from Lockheed Martin. They could get there but it's just superficially the same if at all.

Still 100% wrong

That’s not communism idiot

There is nothing that isn't loudly decried as communism by Fox as long as the other side does it, so odds are actions like this one have been, would be or will be called communism by some witless pundit. The word has become completely meaningless. Idiot.

No it has a very specific definition

Correct and I have not heard it being used to mean that specific definition in the US discourse once. Not a single time. When someone in the US says "communism" what they mean is "something bad".

Which is intentionally programmed into us because if people knew what communism socialism or capitalism meant they would revolt and remove the power of the parasitic bludgercunts that are sacrificing life on earth for profit

so fundamentally you agree that the word "communism" is cynically mangled by liberals and conservatives alike, to the point of meaninglessness, but for some reason that just makes you feel smugly superior to the people pushing back on it. Wow, cool.

Yeah, that's the thing people are making fun of, a dumb liberal seeing some fascism and calling it communism.

sounds like you dont talk to a lot of communists. You should change that, lots of cool ones on here.

This is capitalism folks. This is non-voting stock and we don't get a seat on the Board. This is purely about profit, the idea is that companies like Intel wouldn't exist w/o our control over the global market so were owed a cut. I don't agree.

You guys obviously don't speak American. "Communism" is when the state takes stuff away from rich people, or when workers are allowed to complain about being exploited, or when a bee stings you, or a hangnail. The only thing that's not communism is when the billionaires get all the money.

According to this post billionaires getting all the money is communism too

Keep signing your posts

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Reading through this thread it's glaringly obvious Americans need to read this! Definitions of and Comparisons Between Communism vs Socialism vs Fascism elephantsinourrooms.com/2022/08/30/f...

Idk. They’re describing certain authors descriptions of socialism. When most (all) socialists I know don’t advocate eliminating private property. Or advocate collective ownership. That’s more communism. Socialism isn’t a monolith. No one owns the definition. It’s govt caring for ppl and 1/

You don't know any socialists Socialism is the process of eliminating private property You can't be socialist and uphold private property

I know you're probably respectable and that's great but you're self things that are false

2/ equalizing social and systemic inequality. Public school: meant to equalize education, poor and rich alike SNAP: meant to feed the poor kids. And others who are starving. Social security: meant to ensure the ppl failing to plan their retirement don’t end up homeless. A well regulated 2/

3/ economy allows for ppl to get rich, companies to thrive but prevents them exploiting workers. Taxes the rich to provide basic min std to everyone. This reduces homelessness, crime. It’s a win win for everyone and you can still have billionaires

What do you think profit is? Stolen wages and ripped off consumers You cannot have profit without exploiting people

I hope you realize very lengthy books have been written on the subject of socialism , I really don't understand how you expect me to provide a *summary* that will satisfy everyone. Also, you're talking to someone raised in a social democracy, unlike the liberal one in the US.

Oh sorry it’s not directed at you, you’re not responsible. I just get so irritated by academic definitions rather than the fantastic real world examples we have from many countries. Sorry, my comment wasn’t aimed at you

There's good reason for academic definitions So people cant make up their own definitions and bastardise the concepts to create fear of the only cure to the disease youtu.be/01wcUXRqG78

“Well ackshually” 😂 Go back and read the thread, moron. Muting bc I just can’t with mansplainers

Quick shut down the conversation it's going into challenging the system territory

My block list is heavily populated with mansplainers, esp. annoying are the ones who are incorrect

Thanks for the explanation...no worries then. You were thinking (typing) out loud, eh.😂

Several European countries do such a better job of democratic socialism but bc we are a fascist oligarchy, we are brainwashed to believe socialism = oligarchy. 🤷🏼‍♀️ I was just trying to counter that. The academic version annoys tfg out if me. Signed, Grumpy socialist ❤️

I get it. I am an elderly grumpy socialist.😂 💜☮️

Who is next. How many companies will he destroy. Everything he touches turns to orange and dies.

I sure hope you don't actually think this is what communism is

Looks like Intel needs to be destroyed then. Boycott them into oblivion.

And I'm sure they are in DJT's name. Government owned my ass.

Just like Russia snd China where they own everything!

Damn stupid INTEL valuing money more than country. Maybe Microsoft will be next since it offers fantastic & extensive monitoring of citizenry. Abandon the big corporations, folks. Buy only small business or use open-source software. Warning!

I don't think you know what that word means lmao.

You are ABSOLUTELY correct, this is COMMUNISM !!! Shoots that MAMDANI, is a communist, falsehood right in the ass. You know this stands to reason, after all he’s PUTIN’S bish !!!! maga loves pedos AND communism… Imagine that, Traitors of democracy from the beginning !!!!

I hope this is sarcasm

Found eight and a half thousand Fed dipshits

Remember when Obama took over GM temporarily? The Republicans in Congress were beside themselves.

So, Mr. President, who's the socialist now?

Socialism is not communism. Democratic socialism only works to keep capitalism from getting out of hand and enslaving people.

No socialism is not communism. Communism is when everyone gets an equal share in everything. Socialism, is when the government controls businesses, instead of businesses controlling government, which is Capitalism. In Capitalism, people can work their way up and have a say in their government.

Our government was formed to protect us from corporations, starting with the British East India Corporation, which had a monopoly on tea distribution.

To protect us from large monopolies, not protection from corporations. A single individual can form a corporation, it doesn't have to be a giant business. In a Capitalist society, we want businesses to do well, but we don't want them to run rough shod over the people.

This is state capitalism not socialism but even if it weren't, this looks more like communism or fascism, not so much socialism.

My understanding of socialism is when the government takes over the private business. Nazi is short for National Socialist Party. I believe that's exactly what we have now, running our government.

In short, socialism is when the means of production belong to the people - we would all share equally in the profits of a nation run by people, not shadowy corporations. The Nationalist Socialist Party has nothing to do with socialism and the use of the word was a ruse to hide fascism behind.

What you are describing is communism, not socialism. Sorry.

You're right of course but also, respectfully, wrong. communism is a subset of socialism. I'm also wrong so we can share in the accolades. Now, find me any example of a communist country actually being communist and general, any one of them where the economy/production isn't run by the govt.

There are only countries that we have come to call "communist". The fact is, that there are no real communist countries, where everyone shares equally in the wealth. North Korea has millions of people that are basically slaves to a dictator. We call it "communist". It is not.

Your understanding is wrong, you dumbass. Gawd you people are thick.

It's amazing how people who can't actually make a logical argument are reduced to name calling, usually due to some sort of brain damage.

No one, nothing here even comes close to socialism. The government taking shares in a company as part of a deal is literally capitalism.

I have to strongly disagree. Capitalism is when the power is in the hands of private industry, whether large or small business. When the government owns or runs a business, it is no longer private, and that is socialism.

You can disagree all you like but a 10% stake is not “ownership” and under your definition the US is a socialist country because the US Post Office exists.

The post office was set up as "quasi-public", a kind of hybrid. Not set up to make a profit. This is not the same as a corporation that is privately set up to make a profit. A company like GM, is privately held by it's stock holders. It is not connected to the government, and was never meant to be.

Please, for the love of god, pick up an Economic History 101 book and understand that stockholder capitalism is just one form of capitalism and also 10% is not a majority or controlling share. Hell, just read some Adam Smith. Who said government was “never meant” to be connected?

I used GM as an example of capitalism, I didn't say it was the only example. I owned a small business for many years. It was a sole proprietorship. I was and am, a capitalist, because I believe in my right to run my own business and make a profit doing it. I think I have a good idea of capitalism.

Well, state owned business anyway. Tik Tok is likely to be the next and then we shall watch all those people who wanted govt to be run like a business FAFO.

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Fascism. The blending of State and Corp under Far Right Authoritarianism isnt Communism.

The corporations remained in the possession of the industrialists. This is partial nationalization, a step towards communism. Trump is already purging the government in the style of Mao Zedong's Great Leap Forward, where experts and those who might tell him he's wrong are removed

Youre all so aggressively happy to be wrong about this stuff. Corp and State blending with the Corps pledging to Far Right Authoritarian cult of personality for their benefit is Fascism.

Mix and match authoritarianism Who purged scientists, intellectuals and government bureaucrats who would tell him that he was wrong in his ideologically-bent analysis of reality, Mao or Hitler?

Communism also has authoritarianism issues, correct. However, ideologies and words have *meanings*. The blending of State and Corporate powers under Far Right Authoritarianism where the Corps pledge support to gain benefit is *Fascism*.

But this isn't that either. Some people are so obsessed with meanings that they miss the broader point: this is the very behavior that they accuse others of and claim to be against Fascist corporatism did not exclusively concern itself with corporations, but whole industries, including labor

What do you think the NLRB ruling is about? What do you think the Stock Market going up based on Powell saying the economic issues can be siloed onto workers is about?

I just recognized that there are two separate "they"s in that second paragraph and that's probably confusing to read

Hitler famously purged leftists, scientists, civil servants and those who disagreed with him you dolt.

Hitler

Mao's Great Leap Forward involved young ideological zealots searching out bureaucrats who resisted. They were fired and sent out to do "honest work" and "reeducated". He tried to impose his will on reality, ignoring scientists, plunging the countryside into famine as pest predators were hunted

FYI the reason youre struggling so hard with your analogy is because you're wrong.

It's NATIONAL SOCIALISM. Where only companies that are in line with the ruling party are even allowed to do business.

you're an idiot and too stupid to even realize it

Oh the the great leap forward is happening under Trump? When do I get to purge my landlord then?

Look up how fascist Italy worked and how much they nationalized the country

Virtually nothing. On the contrary, they privatized state-owned enterprises. Sometimes when somebody didn't want to play along with the plan of the state, their land or business was taken and handed to a more pliable actor

It's very funny how confidently wrong you are

I find it strange how you focus on narrow definitions and ignore actual actions. Trump's ideology and goals may be fascist, but the actions, particularly DOGE, mirror those of Maoists of the 1950s and 60s. Very little in ideology demands a certain course of action to achieve that aim Meanwhile:

Ffs 🤦‍♂️ You anti-communist dweebs will burn your own KIDS if they get called “communist” 🙄 It’s textbook fascism. LEARN ffs 😡

You people are so cooked

It's called extortion. End him. Permanently. Without a pulse

So, by "The United States" he means himself.

What does this mean for the nearly completed Samsung factory outside of Austin, Texas?

USA is owned by israel point.

Make America Communist Again

More like the Mafia, I think--government doesn't control means of production, just gets a cut. It's protection money.

i thought MAGA tards hated Communism?

This isn't communism it's merging of state and corporate power it's fascism The polar opposite of communism

Anyway, it seems the point in common between white MAGA and white liberals is their clear ignorance and arrogance to use wrongly words after decades of USA propaganda and isolation

Well in principle this isn't communism in first place

Well in principle, name me one nation in the world who model their economies on the capitalist system? And BTW, I know what Communism is, I know what socialism is and I know what Capitalism is. See Communist is what I have been called by the right for refusing to join the MAGA cult. Get it now?

Boy you ain't bright

Only when it is done by liberals.

Disaster. This criminal regime is out of control.

Well, it is out of the control of the people to whom it was entrusted. It is in someone's control. I don't think it is old, Trump. Who IS in control of this criminal regime? Whao are the ones who have used his narcissism and his stupid and his MAGA followers and...

Palantir, Peter Thiel, Stephen Miller, Shane McCullar, Heritage Foundation, Vanguard, BlackRock

Wonder what Constellis, aka Black Water, is up to these days?

Probably a number of Constellis’ “security”, mercs are in DC terrorizing good people, no doubt keeping everyone notable under surveillance

Pretty much what I was thinking. All of this gets more disturbing by the day

The Oligarchs, represented by Steven Miller. Peter Thiel, Leonard Leo to name a couple.

Brilliant question. We need to look behind the curtain.

Spoiler: it’s Stephen Miller

He is very very evil

Look deep, back to the early 90’s when tRump was going bankrupt and he needed a fix bad and had no credit… and who bailed him out?? The notorious Leader of all the russian mafia.

The same guy who put Putin in power.. these characters and Gislane Maxwell’s dad and many other elites an Epstein were ALLLL connected to the russian mafia… WE are all now owned by the russian mafia

The actual controllers are Heritage Foundation with Project 2025. Their entire plan is being followed to the letter, especially with Russ Vought is in the White House, with control over the government pursestrings. It just so happens that they are friendly to Russia, and that Putin has kompromat.

Homan and Miller are behind that curtain

The government should own the commanding heights of the economy and run it in the interests of the public, instead of shareholders. Libs and defenders of capitalism can eat my asshole.

= state ownership in private company.

It's more socialist, but yeah it's a huge contradiction with Trump's whole thing, he's just bragging like *he* owns it now.

No it's fascist merging of state and corporate power it's got fuck all to do with socialism or communism USA is do fucking screwed 90% of you dont even know the definitions of words and can't grasp simple concepts

Jesus Christ dude I used almost those exact words in a different thread. Be an asshole somewhere else.

I do t think you know what communism is if you think this is communism.

Okay, I'll be honest, I'm not sure which lie is which. Did he use his own money and purchase shares for himself? Or did he use taxpayer dollars and buy shares for himself? Cause either way, pretty sure this is a lot of illegal in one social media post. I wonder how quick they'll try to spin this.

...and they call Dems and Independents Communists...

Elon, you scared bro?

Paid nothing? We will pay one way or another if this is true. Trump doesnt understand how anything works & lies about everything! So 🤷‍♀️

I thought it was Socialism...

No it's fascism

I believe socialism, actually. But yep.

No it's fascism america is so fucking screwed

It's fascism.

And extortion.

The least uneducated white American.

Tell that fucking whore to come say that shit to my face.

Good thing they sell computers that don't have Intel chips in them.

If US government Owns 10% of Intel how can Intel bid on any US government Contract ?? Conflict of interest ??

It's 10% of non-voting stock and we don't get a seat on the board. We have a profitable stake, nothing more. The idea (Biden started this) is that we built the systems that companies like Intel profit from so we're owed. I don't agree but that's the thought process here, not fascism or communism.

“Thank you for your attention to this matter.” LOL, this is so ridiculous, I thought it was a Newsom staffer for a sec. 🤡

This definitely is not GOOD!

Wait..... uhm..... newsroom.intel.com/corporate/in....

Orange one didn't do shit.

I bet that money rolls into America and keeps on rolling right into trump’s, and whoever else he decides, pockets. Who going to have any oversight on this? Him?

Free markets, Free markets, the free markets are falling!

Free market is a myth An oxymoron The market is controlled by the capitalist class The capitalist class is free to do as they please on their market the working class are disposable batteries with zero freedom wageslaves

Disappointing

So he stole part of the company

No he invested in the company

Check the crypto transactions 🤣

Where does the money go? Me, you? What account? Under exactly who's control?

And an even greater deal for the trump family

Gommunism is when the governmenr does stuff

No that's socialism. Communism is when the government does a real lotta stuff. Like just a ton of stuff

Does stuff whether you like it or not.

This country is fucked I can see why people hate Americans 🫠

www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaSf... Use this movie to ram down the throats of anti communists. Anyone who still believes in American exceptionalism. Just hammer at them until you are done. Then hammer it into their thick skulls with even more unrelenting intensity. They are wrong and need STFU forever.

As if we have any say in what our government does grr. We need a dictatorship of the proletariat revolution

What's worse is that so many Americans go about their day totally unaware that their country is spiralling into a fascist dictatorship!

Literally. We are so cooked as a goddamned nation.

en.wikisource.org/wiki/Sociali...

Not exactly, but point taken.

Weren't they pissed at TikTok for ties to the Chinese government? What's the difference?

He signs off all these messages like a collection agent because that’s who he has had the most dealings with

*Cyberpunk Dystopia Intensifies*

Because Trump is a fucking Communist Brian,and has been for at least a decade

You absolutely clueless fucking tool.

You are a fucking moron as dumb as the fuckwits that voted for him

No, shit-for-brains. Trump is a fascist, the end goal of all anti-communist propaganda. Pull your head out of your ass and learn what words mean before using them.

Is it like your head is throbbing all the time?

Learn what communism actually is. At this point those trying to label Trump a communist when he's the farthest thing from one are either willfully ignorant or massive idiots, take your pick.

And you’re a tool git.

LMFAO

Do you think fascism and Nazism just means when people get put in gas chambers?

Of course not

Your posts say otherwise

So why are you calling Trump a communist and not a fascist or a Nazi?

NO INVESTIGATION, NO RIGHT TO SPEAK

Someone take grandpas phone away

He is literally a fascist, not a communist.

Begging through my tears for liberals to learn what fucking words mean.

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If that were true then communists would have voted for him

The last 7+ months is proof that they did

That doesn’t make any sense

It does when you see crops rotting in fields after Trump forced the majority of workers to flee and DeSantis is pushing through pro-child labor laws,those are Communist elements

That's capitalism, you clown.

Have you ever considered that the United States government and the billionaires who run it maybe *lied* to you? Have you considered that maybe McCarthyism was bad? Have you ever had a real conversation with a communist or read anything from one to learn more about it?

Why would I want to learn how to live under a dictator who violates human rights as easily as you and I breathe?

Why do you assume the working class liberating themselves from needing to serve the working class will be a dictatorship? Do you think it’s good that our labor is exploited and that the capitalist ruling class is in charge of our lives, hoarding their wealth so that we struggle to survive?

Absolutely not

You didn’t answer the first question. I’ll assume this is an answer to the second. How do you propose we solve that issue if not socialism?

You need to exorcise these stupid propaganda cartoon ideas from you head immediately

Under communism children would have free food and education, you uneducated Muppet!

Your head is fucking empty. Christ you're SO stupid

Fool

Child labor is is a COMMUNIST element???

So everything you don't like about capitalism is communism, huh? Not how it works, bud

@ianthe.online why are there so many libs like this?

ohhhhhHHHH myGOD

nobody even needed to make up a guy who believes that "Trump is a fucking Communist ...and has been for at least a decade." that guy already exists and is on Bluesky and there are many like him, somehow! lol

No.

The USSR outlawed child labor, unlike the USA

Liberal brains have been pickled by the CIA

And lead poisoning

Dictionaries exist. Have a friend rsad you the relevant definitions and maybe try again.

And yet both of those things have happened countless times under....Capitalism.

Nope. Capitalism.

Being Putin's bitch isn't capitalism, its treason and bending the knee to someone who pines for the days when the USSR existed

Putin is an oligarch. Like, he's literally the most extreme type of capitalist you will ever find. Bending the knee to Putin is literally treason in the name of capitalism.

One of the guys responsible for destroying the Soviet Union wants to bring it back which is why he hasn’t made any attempt to do it in a over a quarter century of power!

Real big "Obama is a secret Muslim communist dictator!" energy from this one.

Whatever. The state taking a stake in a capitalist enterprise is state capitalism, and it takes profound ignorance of political philosophy to call it communism.

No he doesn’t

Yes.....he does

You’re just talking out of your ass with no rationale

No they aren’t

You're a fucking idiot.

The corruption continues unchecked! 🤬

Sucks to be Intel's biggest competitors. I foresee many tariff and federal regulation exemptions for the Great American Company.

And theft

Um... “Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power.” — Benito Mussolini

I don't see free healthcare, housing, higher education, and guaranteed employment anywhere. So where's the communism?

Oh, this lot have distilled its essense to provide only the stick and no carrots.

almost like it's a completely different thing!!!

Liberals have put that stick in their ass for pleasure.

You aren’t smart

I know. Is there a point to your genius observation?

To ridicule you

Were you not hugged enough as a child? Is that it?

Keep trying

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Trying too hard now

Not trying at all mate. You're just too easy.

More like Socialism, but your point is taken. They are such corrupt hypocrites. Corrupt to their core.

The citizens collectively own the means of production is the definition of Communism. Any GOP Senator have something to say? In the future, dismiss EVERY GOP criticism of Dem policies as bad faith. Who can forget "death panels" and "Jade Helm 15". They believe in nothing.

Wonder what HIS cut was?

No. He's doing socialism. Does anyone know if that stock pays a dividend, or will the United States need to sell it to realize any gain?

Not what socialism means.

Communism is a stateless, classless, and moneyless society. The consolidation of the means of production under state control is in fact socialism. 10% under state control is still socialism.

then literally every nation on earth is in some way socialist. state owned and state investment has been a longtime feature of capitalism. what, was the british raj socialist because it was heavily supported by the british empire too?

no it is not socialism or communism , it is authoritarian capitalism.

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Thinking about his funeral gives me hope.

Lettuce prey. 🙏

Bingo

No, shit-for-brains, the government owning a portion of a capitalist company is expressly NOT communism. How the fuck do you even find work being so profoundly stupid? Jesus, leave politics to people who have some clue what the fuck is going on. No one needs you to display your ignorance.

Liberals and conservatives calling each other communists all day. Two deeply unserious groups of people. No wonder McCarthy and Nixon got them dancing on the palms of their hands.

My thoughts exactly!

It's more like Nazi's integration of public property. Soon, the militaro-industrial complex will own a big part of USA big companies where Big republican names will be put in high positions. We're a the beginning of Schindler's list were he make some nazi''friends''and make a ''deal'' with jews.

The Pedophile-in-Chief

New maga backdoors on chiplevel incoming. From now on intel is no less suspicious than huawei.

wtf you talking about, bro?

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It's not though.

The private life is dead. www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozpc...

So?

Shameful! tRump is bragging about his regime stealing money from an American company. A gut punch on conservatives’ idolatry of free markets. Did people vote for this interference in the economy?? What is the rationale for this?? Where is the stolen money going to??

Truth

There are so many dangerous issues with this. And who exactly “owns” the “free” shares? The felon? Demand to see the documents. Quite sure this is part of his personal retirement fund.

Yeah, don’t believe it until we see something from intel confirming it. Just like the alleged trade deals it’s bullshit until confirmed by the other side

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Actually it’s state run capitalism. Under communism the workers would have full control of the company with the state as a supporting role.