FUN FACT: Gavin Newsom doesn't deserve a glide path to the '28 Democratic Presidential nomination just because he found a 20something Latina to outsource his tweets to
FUN FACT: Gavin Newsom doesn't deserve a glide path to the '28 Democratic Presidential nomination just because he found a 20something Latina to outsource his tweets to
Can't we start living in the now? He's doing more than any other Democrat, NOW. There is a good chance we won't even have an election in 26', much less 28'. Can't we just support him now?
Can't we support Camille Zapata for doing the actual work? Anyways once upon a time trans lives matter the end
She's a brilliant writer, yes.
"Any Port in a storm" has always been excellent advice." If you don't make it to shore, you are dead anyway.
Suggestion: find and support another Democrat who is willing to punch back at Trump/MAGA with the same attention-getting tactics and with the same advantages that come with being gov of the state with the 4th largest economy in the world.
Except he's the only one who can have that advantage because he's the governor rn
My point exactly. He has institutional strengths that give his efforts extra punch, and he would be a fool not to take advantage of that. That his popularity is skyrocketing is evidence that rand-and-file Dems are hungry for what he's giving. Someone else might do it better, but who?
Pritzker, Crockett, AOC, Walz...
They've been around for a while now and they aren't doing what Newsom is doing. They're all great, full support, but this is a bottom up phenomenon. Maybe they can start doing something different to meet the moment, but what?
I guess if the bar for the average Democratic voter at this point is "South Park but tweets", then find their own Gen Z terminally online poster and let them loose. Camille Zapata is doing fine work but if I had to guess there are more hers out there than are currently getting media oxygen.
I think you're missing what the bar actually is. It isn't about the tweets; that's incidental. It's about getting Trump's goat and pushing back against the TX gerrymandering. The bar is this: FIGHT! If he's doing it better than anyone else, we should applaud that, not throw water on it.
And if another GOP led state, say Missouri or Ohio follow Texas' lead, then this is just more of Gavin's usual self serving bullshit. The bar IS fight. There are better fighters.
Slippery slope arguments have always justified unilateral Dem disarmament, and most Dems are sick of it. This is why Newsom's popularity is surging. If there are Dems who can fight even better, then bring it on! But again, throwing a wet blanket on someone causing MAGA to cry is counterproductive.
MAGAs default position is crying about everything forever, that's why they fought the Civil War until they won it in January. All I see is a shitty rich white man polishing his image and getting credit off the back of a WOC's work. If reality is a wet blanket, too bad.
it's so pathetic that that's all it takes for people to be like "have we found our candidate..?". have higher standards than none at all! leaders should prove themselves through action, not tweets!
It's beyond bonkers and frustrating to see the left eat themselves from within. We have reached the point of a nationalist authoritarian country, run by a wannabe dictator and Dems continue to attack their own. THAT'S why the Democratic party has 27% poll numbers.
Considering how anti homeless, anti trans, pro AI (and this list continues) Newsom has been, if that's what the future of the Democratic party is then I'm out. It's beyond bonkers and frustrating to see someone get anointed Dem Jesus two years in advance for outsourcing his social media.
Who would you rather see as the Democratic nominee?
Pritzker, AOC, Walz, Crockett, Warren, Leticia, Abrams, Michelle Obama, Amy Poehler, my next door neighbor, that one waiter who always gave me extra bread sticks, @mtsw.bsky.social, both surviving Beastie Boys, Danny DeVito, Rhea Pearlman, Tony Gilroy, a hologram of Jimmy Carter, Steve Kerr, Cher...
I agree on the first 4 names you listed. Question, what is the worst thing Gavin Newsom has done to lose your confidence?
The anti trans bullshit, which is continuing while he apparently successfully whitewashes in this "He's a FIGHTER!" wave of support when the person doing the most of the social media work is a WOC. IF we're only going to list A thing that's made me lose my confidence.
Thank you for being civil in this conversation, I respect people who can disagree and not get angry. As for Newsom, I choose to give more weight to his actions and laws then what he said on one podcast.
His actions have done a 180° in under six months fueled purely by jumping to whatever point focus groups that month tell him to do. Raymond Shaw would be proud.
But did he make it law?
What did he say that was anti trans? Didn't he pass bills protecting trans kids in California?
Newsom-Pritzker '28 Pritzker-Newsom '28 How big would your head explode? 😃
It wouldn't, because rich white men being shitty has never surprised me. If it does, then I wouldn't vote for either party's Presidential ticket.
Pritzker.
I like Pritzksr too!
Why is it when we like someone we say they should run for president when they could probably do more benefit where they are? And when someone is doing something good, why do we put them down by saying you wouldn't vote for them for president?
Why is it he's getting credit for the work Camille Zapata's doing? Why is August him so much different from Match him? Why is there this rush to Gavin considering the work the JB Pritzkers, Jasmine Crocketts, AOCs and Tim Walzs have been doing before he culture vultured "South Park but tweets"?
Zapata wouldn't be doing it if she didn't have his permission.
Camille Zapata is doing fine work but if I had to guess there are more hers out there than are currently getting media oxygen. "Social media South Park" a) is a low bar to clear that b) hasn't proven to sway the clutch of 55+ constituents who most reliably vote.
I'm a 55+ voter. South Park doesn't sway me but it's pretty damn funny. I agree that are probably more of hers out there. Now, Newsom is not my first choice by a long shot. However I will vote the nominee. Purity has hurt us too many times.
Bravo, @rosellawr.bsky.social !!
Newsom has been a disaster for CA
Does that negate the fact that he is speaking truth to power and pushing back on what's going on? Because you don't like him and you don't like how he's done for California does not mean that what he's doing now isn't a good thing. I don't get this all or none crap.
Of course not--but he deserves props for realizing he needed to outsource one of his weaknesses. I support what Newsom is doing today. Would I vote for Newsom as a presidential candidate in November '28? That's more than 3 years away. Remember how much our world changed in two hours on 9/11/01.
Feel free to do all the deliberation you want. I'm not voting for him.
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He’s literally dem Ron Desantis. Became governor of a huge state which lets him get easy attention and headlines but has a historically awful record and will buckle under national scrutiny
You obviously know nothing of what it is like to live under DeSantis.
I’m not saying Newsom is as bad as desantis I’m saying they have extremely similar political profiles
You said "literally dem Ron DeSantis". When Newsom starts banning books, taking over colleges, destroying memorials to slaughtered LGBTQ, steals $10M in taxpayer money and filters it to his wife, spends $250M on a concentration camp, or tries to take over Disney, get back to me.
Oh my god you’re dumb I’m not commenting on policies
You may think I'm dumb but just be grateful you haven't spent 6 years living under a fascist.
Voted for him twice and while i don't agree with everything he says or does lets not compare him to an imbecile like DeSantis who is a Trump maga simp.
They’re the exact same type of saucelessnees where their high profile job is the only thing propelling their relevance on the national stage.
One is an incompetent idiot the other just wants to be president. Imo i don't think it should be newsom nor a man. It's been time for an educated woman to be president.
Yes but Ron was horrifically awkward and had no personality. Say what u will about Gavin but that does not apply to him
Newsom isn’t exactly like him but he still comes off as alienating and insincere and he’s just not very good at politics or campaigning, but hasn’t had to have a serious election ever
I cant stand the guy but hes one of very few right now thats actually taking it to Trump and doing something against unconstitutional federal takeover. If that leapfrogs him to the top of the democratic ticket then so be it, the slimebag will have my vote
That's one of us.
Agreed. He’ll need to earn it just like anyone else.
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Except I support AOC, so no points this round
How is that cut health care from Newsom doing you?
Shitty! It still costs a quarter of what I make in a month to wait 10 weeks for an appointment!
You make $400/month. We have a decent min wage in CA so are you saying you only work about 6 hours a week?
California does not actually have an unlimited budget. And before you suggest it, California already does tax the billionaires, which is actually part of why our budget is so messed up, since the amount of tax revenue is highly dependent on how well the tech industry does that year.
It’s not just the tech industry that’s paying high taxes. We also tax capital gains. San Francisco has a very strong financial district.
It hasn’t affected me at all. I’m on Medicare. You know that program that we pay into our whole working life so that we can have healthcare when we retire. However, we still have to pay a monthly premium, and we still have to pay for a lot of pharma drugs.
If he didn’t make this cut, you would complain about the deficit. We’re exposing you priority politics people for what you are.
FUN FACT: That’s not happening! 2028 is a long way away! You worry a lot! 💙🦋
You don't know that! Not really! Sure do!
Nor do you! 🤙🏼💙🦋