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E. Greg Gore @undeadfutures.bsky.social

What is the goal of pushing back? Why throw stones at a hologram of a building?

aug 21, 2025, 7:18 pm • 0 0

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rom comrade @savasavasava.bsky.social

it's not a hologram of a building? unsure of what you're trying to do here.

aug 21, 2025, 7:50 pm • 1 0 • view
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E. Greg Gore @undeadfutures.bsky.social

Pushing back or critiquing AI seems analogous to physically attacking a hologram. It is profitable and so it is coming, why try to slow its arrival instead of finding ways to turn it against its original purpose?

aug 21, 2025, 8:55 pm • 0 0 • view
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rom comrade @savasavasava.bsky.social

can you say more about how you see AI as analogous to a hologram?

aug 21, 2025, 9:10 pm • 0 0 • view
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E. Greg Gore @undeadfutures.bsky.social

The fight is against the replacement of humans by AI, a replacement that has yet to happen and is not at all guaranteed to play out as the creators intend.

aug 21, 2025, 9:28 pm • 0 0 • view
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rom comrade @savasavasava.bsky.social

that isn’t the fight, no. also how is this analogous to a hologram tho

aug 22, 2025, 3:18 am • 0 0 • view
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E. Greg Gore @undeadfutures.bsky.social

Because it is a fight against the virtual, not the actual.

aug 22, 2025, 2:18 pm • 0 0 • view
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rom comrade @savasavasava.bsky.social

you think AI is virtual? I’m struggling here. are you not aware of how AI is created? of the exploited labour that went into cleaning the data, the environment that is impacted, the mis/disinfo that is rife, the non consensual use of people’s art and work… I could go on. this ain’t virtual, buddy.

aug 22, 2025, 2:34 pm • 1 0 • view
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E. Greg Gore @undeadfutures.bsky.social

But you aren’t attacking every commodity, just a specific one, and one that is coming anyway.

aug 22, 2025, 6:50 pm • 0 0 • view
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rom comrade @savasavasava.bsky.social

the last panel of Matt Bors’ Mister Gotcha comic. based on the castle in the background and their attire, what appears to be a medieval peasant carrying a bundle of sticks on his back says “we should improve society somewhat”. an extremely annoying and stupid man has popped up with a grin and his hands under his stupid chin from a nearby well, to say, “ yet you participate in society. curious! I am very intelligent.”
aug 22, 2025, 9:47 pm • 3 0 • view
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E. Greg Gore @undeadfutures.bsky.social

You aren’t arguing for improvement of society, you’re arguing against one specific technology. And I’m not shaming you for participating in society, I’m saying that there is a tactical error here.

aug 22, 2025, 10:38 pm • 0 0 • view
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E. Greg Gore @undeadfutures.bsky.social

It is produced as anything under capitalism is produced.

aug 22, 2025, 5:42 pm • 0 0 • view
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rom comrade @savasavasava.bsky.social

exactly! now you’re getting closer to the point!

aug 22, 2025, 9:48 pm • 0 0 • view
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E. Greg Gore @undeadfutures.bsky.social

And you’re getting further. We do not steer this ship, capital does: it has evicted us from the Real. Find ways to make weapons of what it brings into existence. All this protesting AI is at best an eager performance. Figure out how to weaponize it.

aug 22, 2025, 10:37 pm • 0 0 • view
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Hypervisible @hypervisible.blacksky.app

Emily Bender had a useful post about this recently. buttondown.com/maiht3k/arch...

aug 21, 2025, 9:15 pm • 9 1 • view
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E. Greg Gore @undeadfutures.bsky.social

It does nothing to touch the reality of the matter: AI is happening regardless because it is profitable. We don’t steer the ship, Capital does. This entire standpoint is built on the (I believe false) assumption that we have any say in whether or not it will come to be.

aug 21, 2025, 10:08 pm • 0 0 • view
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E. Greg Gore @undeadfutures.bsky.social

Will check it out

aug 21, 2025, 9:30 pm • 1 0 • view