I'm thinking he'll be in the mix for the 2028 Democratic nomination for president- that's if we have free and fair elections anymore.
I'm thinking he'll be in the mix for the 2028 Democratic nomination for president- that's if we have free and fair elections anymore.
If we have 'free and balanced' news, I'm sure we'll have 'free and fair' elections.
We won’t have 2028 elections that are real, show elections a la Russia, sure. But pull your head out of your ass.
Will be very different in 4 years time.
Yeah he's a white man popular in a red state, sounds perfect. I know nothing else about this guy.
I was hoping he would run for Senate. We know he can win statewide.
Yeah I would love it if this governor and Gavin Newsom get together what a ticket that would be in 2028. Both very top individuals with good experience on how to analyze and work things out. There's nothing on the GOP side that even comes close. Trump is done and there's no one else for them
Newsom will never win...the GOP would love it if he ran. That's one reason for all their bullshit about him, re: CA fires. They are preemptively destroying his brand, and he's already got one strike against him - California.
I'd love to see that in 2028 but we have to realize that #45 ain't done until he calls it quits. His Repub allies may try to change the Twenty-second Amendment to keep him in office perpetually. He's already mentioned the possibility.
I think they're already planning on trying it - not sure if they're going to argue it only applies to consecutive terms or some other BS?
But won’t he be dead by then?
He's been deteriorating mentally and physically, but don't put it past the GOP to try a Weekend at Bernie's thing with him
Trump has already floated this.
An economy in the tank and a collapsing infrastructure from purges of competent federal employees will make staying president VERY hard. Also, I suspect that once he blatantly crosses the constitutional line into fascism, powerful blue states will quit taking orders from the feds.
that's 1 thing that's lost on purged employees. Imagine a bridge collapse & instead of getting DOT engineers on site, you get some MAGA high school dropout there instead with his hand out asking for a kickback to steer the repair or replacement to his brother's company, who may not even be qualified
Once again, from your lips to God's ears. Here's hoping every word you said comes true.
Just what we need, more white men.
I’m not voting for a ticket with Newsom. Please understand there is a large contingent on the left that feels this way before pushing him. We will write in Shawn Fain, Bernie, etc.
But things have always been that way. Especially with the Bernie Sanders crowd and the Michael Moore's of the world. I get it. I'm just saying for the masses for our chances of beating DeSantis, or Cruz or some female they throw out there like Hailey, we better get our crap together
The thing that hasn’t been is Democrat support for that. They are pleasing the donor class and eking out 51% victory by appealing to suburban moderates. The better chance is to get behind a solid young energetic leftist base and bring in non voters who will not come out for the corpo suit.
The tide is shifting, there’s a reason beyond sexism why Kamala lost so bad. I know young Dems that are moving this way, it’s not just the old socialist that always voted that way. We aren’t voting for bad candidates (for us, the corpo frens) because they’re just not R’s anymore.
So you're saying maybe a younger version of bernie? But who is that? Who do you know of that might be emerging from that? Alexandria ocasio-cortez?
No, I don’t. She’s good. Shawn Fain would be good, broad appeal and his work with labor transcends the culture war. I just mainly know who isn’t the answer at this point.
Still pissed that Biden waited so, so long to bow out. Giving Harris only 90 days for a presidential election was a terrible disservice to the Democratic party. Had there been a primary/debate season for the Democratic party I'm virtually certain Newsom would be the president-elect right now.
I like Newsom and he's a great surrogate for Dems on TV, but I think he'd get vilified as an out of touch California liberal even more than Harris was.
Agreed. He has what I call a "De Santis" problem. Florida absolutely LOVES De Santis but he doesn't play well at all on the national stage. I think Newsom would have that same fight from the opposite end of the political spectrum. I still think he would have beat our big, orange, special boy. :)
How do you imagine that the right wing will be able to take him as "out of touch"? The guy is running the largest by far state in the country and the fifth largest economy in the world if it was a country. He has a huge diverse 40 million people state to run. How is he "out of touch"? Of what?
They'll just run video of the homeless in the cities in CA over & over again.... and then videos of crime in CA as well. Doesn't matter that crime is worse in most red states - the crimes in CA will be the ones that get airplay and would force Newsom to respond.
And we're going to run videos of cops being crushed & killed and maced and hit with clubs & dragged out and beat senseless at the Capitol building. What's your point man!? CA is a massive state of course they have some problems. That's why you need a big man to solve them. Are you sure you lean D.?
If we have free & fair elections in 2028, it likely won't be Trump running again, so Jan 6 will not be as big an issue to most Americans. And, since the right has a much bigger media megaphone, anything the Democrats do in response will almost certainly get drowned out by the GOP 100 fold.
The right wing doesn’t necessarily use logic. They use emotion. If he feels out of touch, if he has the out of touch vibe, then they will believe it’s a fact that he’s out of touch
You are making a reasonable point. But that's not what the right leaning public will grab on to. He is from California and that's all that matters.
And by the way so was a multiracial multinational female and she only lost by about 1%. You put a alpha male white guy with the intelligence and wit and experience of running the entire state of California out there and he's going to get millions more votes. This is just my opinion
But the "right leaning public" as you call it. That's nowhere near a big percentage of America. I think the big majority of America is Middle independent, MALE &leans Democratic on most issues. Trump was elected because of the weak choice of Harris, and of course Biden dropping out way too late.
You and I know that Newsom isn’t out if touch. We pay attention. Trump had his minions believing there was a pet buffet happening in Springfield.
Out of touch. 🙃
I mean I like harris. She would be a good replacement for Newsom as governor of california. That would be a perfect setup for her. But for president, this country wants a white middle-aged male ass kicker who knows how to talk to the media and the bullshitters. And that's Newsome
Newsome & Buttigieg would get my vote ❤️🤍💙
Exactly. I think some of these people in here are pseudo-democrats and they just kind of Disguise it. An alpha male who doesn't take shit from anybody. He's not a biracial woman with lower exp. at running something like Newsom has in ca. Dems need a "trump type", only minus the rapes and lies
But I'm talking about the type of person. Donald Trump has been vilified as all kinds of nasty shit, and yet here we are! Just because they will attack him as a liberal California? Fuck that! I'll take that over a fucking rapist criminal! But yet he got elected! don't get your point on this one man
Why would Newsom have done better than Harris in the primary? It would have still been Harris..
I think via the primary system that he would have outperformed her. Really liked how the debate between Newsom and De Santis turned out.
Good point.
I mean look at Fox News and Sean Hannity trying to interview Newsom. He absolutely destroyed Sean. That's when I knew this guy is the one. He's like Trump only he's one of us! He gets out there talks shit and doesn't back down. No more playing nice! That's what the Dems need!
And by that I mean my point is Bashear of Kentucky, , he's much more vanilla and subdued, almost like a Southern Baptist preacher type. Commonwealth of Kentucky is one 100th of the problems and diversity running California has. Newsome is doing fine. We need the alpha male type
I just think you're simply wrong on that. You're talking about the governor of a 40 million diverse state with all kinds of economy sectors, he has the experience. The big thing on Harris was her lack of experience! Surely you remember all of this? We need a clinton-type experienced white male
I agree that a Clinton-type Gov would be a much stronger candidate. And sadly, being white, tall, and handsome helps a lot with some voters. But Newsom has the California baggage that would energize the right. Andy Beshear would be a much better fit for the "white male with experience" model
I simply disagree. They need an alpha male quick-witted won't let you walk all over him type of candidate. Just go rewatch that Sean Hannity interview. I don't care about California rhetoric or Kimberly Guilfoyle or whatever her name is. I want an experienced ass kicker not a Bible Belt vanilla
Not Newsom.
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Trump has vilified him, he can’t win over republicans. And I’m not super stoked on the way he’s handled some things in the state lately.
Also you have to remember California is such a diverse diverse State over 40 million people! A huge economy. It's a real tough Hall and I think overall basically he has done pretty well. Far better choice than someone like DeSantis, who is already trying to run. Look at his public stuff lately
Oh good god, not even a competition. DeSantis is shit. Newsom is 100% better but I don’t think he’s a good presidential fit. I’d like to see someone else is all I’m saying.
Yeah I understand you. Governor Brashear is definitely a top person also. I'm not discounting him. There's plenty of time for him to get going in this next couple of years. I also like Dan Goldman the representative from new york.
I’ll check Dan out. Thanks.
Well, as a woman, I would love to see a woman president before I die!!
My 85 year old mama just told me this in October. I don't think she will see it now. I hope to.
So would I. Too many Americans need to overcome their misogyny, chauvinism, and good old boy attitude.
Yes they do!!!
I agree. I also think we’re still a little ways off. There were older women who voted for Trump only because he was a man and that was their view of how the country is supposed to be run. I think the next 4 years will define who we are for years to come.
You are correct. Like I said I really really thought Kamala had everything she needed and it looked like she was really popular. But the numbers in the end spelled out something that the Democrats have to figure out and admit to.
Two reasons we have not had a woman elected Pres. 1. Sexism ( and women are as guilty of this as men!) 2. Racism( see above) We have to change the heart and soul of this country.. until we care about our fellow humans more that wealth and power we are doomed
I don’t think we can change the minds of people who cling to conspiracies for their daily fixes of dopamine. The insanity has grown with time and what would once have been viewed as obscene is normal. Half of the country is blindly in an abusive relationship with their political daddy.
And it's all helped along by Putin and his army of misinformation Bots working for their military trying to tear apart democracy especially america. They've been all over the Internet literally for years now and it creates nothing but confusion and hate and divisiveness
Not only that look at what the National Enquirer did to Hillary Clinton and how they protected trump. And now you have Elon musk, and how many others!? Zuckerberg!? I'm telling you the elites and the oligarchs are taking over just like Biden mentioned in his speech. Bernie has been talking about
I honestly can’t wait to see how they explain the cost of groceries this summer.
Exactly. Citizens united ruined pretty much all of that. They'll never get the money out of politics. They won't even put a law in place that the Congress can't partake in Wall Street trading while they're in office. Money is King in america. And it's spoiling everything
I totally agree with you. I actually thought Hillary was going to be it. I mean look her husband was super popular and he would be back in the white house so to speak. And she's obviously smart and experienced and a lawyer. She got almost 3 million more votes! Just a couple of wrong States
I have zero doubt Hillary would have won were it not for Comey and our corrupt media.
Yeah that crappy pulled just 11 days before the election was an obvious public assassination attempt. Probably swayed tens of thousands of Voters. And that's all she needed in those key Northern Battleground States. I couldn't believe Michigan and Wisconsin
I will always be angry that Hillary lost. She had more experience than anyone! Well, I guess I am still sad that Trump won over Kamala and will never forgive those who chose him over her!! What is wrong with these guys??!😡😡😡
Preaching to the choir! I thought Hillary had it. And she got a little sick and got dizzy and had to take a few days off. But she did very well in the debates. Just couldn't win Michigan and wisconsin. I'll never understand why
Sadly, having a V instead of a P was the “problem”. Not to oversimplify it, but if a man who performed that well in the debates, and had that much experience had been the Democratic nominee, he’d have won in a landslide. It’s so disappointing
I think you hit the nail on the head. Even some of the younger male Democrats probably just didn't like her, because of the reasons you listed and I just think we need to get back to the basics. We need a Bill Clinton type. That's why I like Gavin Newsom
Newsom, unfortunately would be tarred with the same brush as MVP as a California Liberal. Andy Beshear is looking like he is our vanilla guy that people can get behind.
I totally disagree. The Democrats need to go full on alpha male, only they have to lean left of center. They have to use the Donald Trump mold. Or we're just going to get the same results that we've had because we're picking women. And this last time a woman of multi-nationalities. Just my opinion
You have the right to your opinion and I don't disagree that Dems are too nice, but Newsom already caved on the flags flying at half staff on Monday. Second, he was married to Kimberly Guilfoyle. There was some shady stuff that went on with that divorce. The oppo research could be bad.
Putin hated Hillary.He had troll farms pushing misinformation.No one believed it at the time. Zuckerberg knew. He also sold our data.It was was used by Cambridge Analytica to target voters in the 2016 election.Cambridge closed operations in 2018 after the Facebook–Cambridge Analytica data scandal.
I’ve been saying this on this app for 24 hours now. People so worried about TikTok when our data is already farmed out.
But those are Stateside domestic data sharing. Some would say breaches when they go too far. And at least we have legal remedy when we find out about these companies. You have ZERO remedy when it's a red China communist party trying to bring down America, looking for secrets, undermining US citizens
...how about those who chose NOT to vote at all!
Some people say approximately 90 million voting age legal adults either didn't vote or didn't register to vote and then go vote! That's a lot of people. A lot!
I didn't get a chance to vote for Hillary. My, lives in MS, Mother, in MI, passed away that day, and I had to fly before polls opened to get to her before she died.
I'm sorry for your loss.
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We have to get people out to the polls and vote. It may not be these two or neither. There are a lot of qualified democrats out there. By the way, let’s not start the campaign on Tuesday. PLEASE!
Many women in this country will not support a woman for president. They’d rather have a felon instead. It’s infuriating.
As my wife might say, she'd rather see a president who is a woman, than a female president because she's a woman. But given a choice...
That's apparently gonna have to wait unfortunately
Shout it to the people in the back please.
Huh? No. Not Newsom. That's a lot of testosterone. That would piss women off big time.
Because women really stood up for Clinton and Harris.
I was about to say so many women voted for Trump because they couldn’t handle it was Harris and not a Becky like them, they can all get stuffed. I don’t care who it is. Woman. Man. Black. White. Brown. Gay. Straight. Give me a destroyer. Give me someone who buries the religious right for good.
You make a good point. And when I see candidates like Governor brashear, I immediately go to more of a Bible thumping Kentucky type almost like a Baptist preacher type of a person. I don't think Dems are going to vote for that. And certainly not the General Public from what we've seen lately
Beshear’s only real problem is he will be called a nepo baby (not that Trump isn’t a massive nepo baby). Other than that, he’s pretty damn likable. But we’re really sleeping on Jared Polis and there’s always Wes Moore in the wings if he does well in Maryland.
Polis is a rat
He’s ran Colorado extremely well
Or, give em what they ask. They say we want the Nanny State. Give em a highly qualified Nana type. And let her go all Mrs Doubtfire on em. Sometimes children need to be reminded their acting like children
Christ I miss Ann Richards
Because men really Stoff up for Clinton and Harris.
They did not, at all. Was responding to a specific comment.
Nope.
This, in its entirety.
Women and blacks will never get another shot because whites and Hispanic men overwhelmingly won’t vote for them is what you’re trying to say.
Nobody said anything about Black people. Hillary is White. White women and men will not vote for a woman.
The comment you agreed with was literally “women won’t vote for women”. WHITES won’t vote for women was my point.
Women across the board should have 80+. If it was, She would have won.
I'm starting to get a little bit lost on this whole thread above. But I'm kind of agreeing with you. I just don't think generally Democrats are going to vote for a mixed race woman yet. I think this country is going the other direction. White Alpha A types. And to me there's none bigger than Newsom
I agree, it's just that I'm also saying that when that person is like a mixed race also. The whole India comma / Jamaican thing. The right Wingers and the Trump people went hard on that big time. I'm just saying the Dems need to get back to the Bill Clinton types, you know what I mean?
Quiet as kept, Bill Clinton sort of did what Trump did. Remember, he admitted to smoking weed, and the Media tried to make it a bad thing, but he widened his demographic? He was also rapey too but I was too young to vote or look into all that at the time.
Well I was there I remember it all. He literally got caught and shit upon about his lies about not having sexual relations with that woman, Monica lewinsky. But they got him in the end and this was all before his second term. It came out, and he still won big time again. Dems need that type again
I agree with this in respect to not wanting a prim and proper politician. I think you can be yourself, embrace different ideas, and say when you are wrong. I loved how Harris was able to say she educated herself on fracking, and it changed her opinion. I didn't like her recycling her speech tho.
I don't know about the whole Jennifer Flowers rape thing, but he DID get caught telling a small white lie when they asked him about Monica Lewinsky, the 21-year-old intern in the white house, and he still won re-election by a pretty wide margin! So your point is right! It's okay to be Alpha A type
Exactly. There are professionals who have studied what happened a couple months ago and I'm pretty sure they all realize that there's a shift in this country and we're going to have to get with it. That's why I say Newsom. Literally seems like the Dem version of trump when you think about it
But then I just got another female commenting that she says that they will all get behind someone else because they are definitely not liking Newsom? I'm like why?! The guy ripped apart Sean Hannity during that interview. I was super impressed. And he runs california. That right there is a huge Plus
My problem is I just can’t get inside the MAGA brain to work out what they want. I look at people like Hakeem Jeffries and Jasmine Crockett and think damn they’re good politicians, and then remember, oh yeah, most people think they’re unelectable as president.
I would like to see someone who will refuse to work with MAGA Republicans. I want him to name them. I want him to say why. Just flat-out run on that and kitchen table issues. I want him to curse regularly, I want him to go to rural America more than battleground.
You just described my pick, Gavin Newsom
And people really love aoc. But then look at where she's from and how people have attacked her constantly. It's just really tough out there
Its REALLY tough out there right now.
The person has to keep it straight with us. Tell me YOU CAN'T DO IT UNLESS YOU ELECT CERTAIN PEOPLE TO CONGRESS. Saying I won't work with MAGA means promoting IDEAL candidates, and I don't care if it's precedent or not! Promote the team u need to get the laws you're promoting PASSED!
I have a in-law person who has worked in the CIA for a couple decades, she's very smart, I trust her opinion. She said that in her observations of what happened, she said women definitely bailed and screwed up this whole election for Harris. She's been really pissed about it. They stood back
This.
why is it the womens fault EVERY. DAMN.TIME? Men failed her too. Moreso.
Totally agree. I am still pissed.
I've literally almost shut down all of my news intake unless it's just my local affiliate up the road. I don't want to hear or see anything about politics, and this might last years. Trump is going to try to fuck this country over these two years before the midterms. I just can't stomach it
Not to mention that finally, a few days before inauguration, trumps baby Jared and ivanka made a 1.2 billion dollar deal with Albania to build a luxury resort. Kind of like the luxury tower apartments that zivanja would rent to foreigners to launder money. They never had to live there.
Give her a hug, I feel her anger and disappointment💙
Yeah she's been upset big time. I'm not around them they live way up in Michigan I'm down in Florida. But I've heard solid Through the Grapevine that she literally is almost in ill health because of how depressed she was that it was obviously women who didn't come through
I am sure she feels betrayed- tell her to join Blue Sky- I joined November 6th and it has brought me hope to know the result while devastating is not as condemning as originally thought- there are people who care, and people who are working on things. Baby steps,baby steps will get her there- 💙💙
Eh Hemmm...This woman part of the 92% DID NOT BAIL...thank you very much🪷👑
Yes, I shouldn't paint in broad strokes - 38 or so million women voted for Harris....but....
Yeah...the rest let US down...annnnd the sneaky underbelly of what ACTUALLY happened on that day...😔
I'm more scared for 2028. It's gonna be open and honest and not a goddam nothing we can do about it. Hope I'm wrong.
Definitely...I hadn't even thought that far out.. Guess I need to start...still hoping for a hail Mary from ANYWHERE🪷
Probably a lot of mail-in ballots from certain zip codes that they knew were heavy DEM, we're probably tossed out for technicalities and that affected literally tens of thousands of votes between two or three key States
I have no doubt about that...NOTHING truly surprises me...Just pisses me off further...especially as a black woman...and folks wanna question why we are angry?!🤦🏾♀️😔
Of course not. There's millions of you. It's just that there wasn't enough million. There needed to be another million that didn't decide to just forget it. Or were threatened by their domineering boyfriends or husbands to not vote for Kamala or just sit it out. SOMEthing happened, and I'm pissed
This.
Sad.
That's what she claims anyway. She is super super pissed off at the female voter electorate. Don't ask me how she found out these numbers, but working in the cia, I'm pretty sure she knows how to look at what happened in the demographics of who voted for who. I'm sure they have inside information
I have female coworkers and friends that did not vote for her. I was stunned to realize they were still supporting him, but here we are.
I know and I saw all those rallies for that last month, just ridiculous sold out rallies and all of the numbers were ticking up for weeks and a weeks in a row and she was shown to be ahead but within the margin in three or four key states. And then all the sudden she loses!? I just can't believe it
I live in California and even though I like Newsom he should not be running at the national level- the amount of idiotic grounded hate for politicians in California would ensure not winning
In 2024, Kamala Harris got 1.8M fewer votes than Biden did in California in 2020, even though Harris is from California.
Nailed it!
Not this woman.
Well I'm not sure this country is ready for femininity and people of color. Barack Obama was an anomaly. I think people are ready for smart middle-aged white guys. Testosterone type guy. That will bring in more male voters who obviously did not vote for Kamala. That's just my opinion
Democrats need somebody with charisma to win-they had that with Bill Clinton & then Barack Obama. They did not have it with Al Gore, John Kerry, Hillary Clinton & Kamala Harris - yes, they're all smarter & far more qualified than the Republican they were up against, but were not the most exciting. *
* Biden was the exception in 2020 because of the covid lockdowns & Trump's corruption & colossal incompetence.
Yeah there's no doubt that covid was probably the only reason Trump lost. I mean he really fumbled it and listened to too many idiots like Bannon and Breitbart and Jones and all of those idiots. Still can't believe Harris got almost 2 million fewer votes than Biden. That's just astounding to me
In California alone, Harris received 1.8 million fewer votes than Biden did in 2020, and Harris is from California. Trump closed the gap in many blue states not because he did better there, but because Harris got fewer votes than Biden in CA, NY, Mass, CT, NJ, etc
⬆️⬆️⬆️THIS!
Sad but probably true. They need a moderate …
Yeah as as the other person in here criticize me for that comment, but I'm talking about is that as far as president, I think we would get far more voters if we went with a well spoken good looking middle-aged white guy who's got some balls and intelligence. Not disparaging Harris. I'm just saying
Nope. Harris barely lost. "femininity" wtf? "people of color" wtf? "testosterone type guys" wtf? You know women vote, right?
I know I know. I've just heard some experts say that they suspected that a lot of women did not vote this time. Either that or controlling husband's/ boyfriends forced them to vote for Trump. Or maybe even many women just checked out because of that? A sister-in-law who's very astute, said the same
And to me Governor Brashear would be the perfect vice presidential candidate. He's obviously young but very more subdued and calm and quieter, and can build his experience and develop maybe a presidential run later on? I think Newsom has the chops that maybe Brashear Lacks? Not to put him down atall
Look at Brashear's approval rating in a Red State. He's ready. Newsom would lose.
I definitely noticed that. And I'm not downplaying him. I'm just saying it's the Commonwealth of Kentucky for crying out loud. Gavin Newsom is running the 5th or 6th largest economy in the whole world. And by far America's biggest most complex state. I give him credit. It has to be real tough
The only reason people have a skewed impression of Newsom is because of all of the hate and vitriol from the right wing bull horns in the media because they know he's a top top strong individual in the biggest state by far in the country. That's why they go after him. They see him as a threat
Cuz obviously this country votes more for the hutzpah kind of a guy. The alpha A type male guy. The good looking quick talk doesn't take crap type of debate person. To me, in other words, we're looking for a democratic left-leaning candidate that's basically a Trump Style, if that makes any sense?
Democrats win with charismatic candidates dating back to JFK. Clinton won twice in the 90s and then Obama in 2008/12. When Dems run bland/intellectual types, they lose: Adlai Stevensonx2, McGovern, Mondale, Dukakis, Gore, Kerry, Hillary, Harris - no matter how well qualified.
I'm literally going to copy this and save it on my dashboard. That was absolutely a perfect explanation of what has happened. And you're absolutely right. I just think Newsom is like basically the white version of Obama when you think about it. And he has a little bit of that Trump in him
And the reason I say that is because I remember the Sean Hannity interview, and Gavin Newsom absolutely gaped that guy right up his asshole like numerous times during that interview. That's what the Dems need! I like harris, but damn, Newsome is hardcore, kind of like Trump like I said
Americans have typically elected “change” candidates from both parties. That doesn’t mean it always makes sense. It should help Dems in ‘26 and ‘28, but it will still be challenging due to some structural electoral disadvantages.
Nope.
Well I mean I'm not disparaging Harris and the way she performed. I'm just saying that this country isn't ready for it. It's obvious just look at what happened! So we need to go with a trump style person but a Democrat left leaning. And that to me is Gavin Newsom at the top of the ticket
Newsome brings one huge thing to the table. He's one of them, for us. But one of the 1%... they do tend to like bad news better from one of the club. They'd market him as Bruce Wayne... And I'm only being a little sarcastic.
I understand. I just feel with some work and some smoothing out that guy is one of the Best Bets the Democrats have of beating whoever the Republicans put out there in '28. Obviously smart and quick-witted and knows his shit. That's what we need!
Agreed... he's currently short-list material.
I wonder how awful things have to get for us Dems to just lock arms and get the R’s out! Do we still have time to do this? And can we stop bickering long enough to get it done?
Vance has the billionaire tech backing and in my opinion will be their 2028 candidate. Those same South African billionaires are why he is where he is today. The office is for sale.
That's a good point. I also think people like Ted Cruz, even DeSantis will be running near the top of their selection process
Vance, Cruz & DeSantis have less charisma combined than my middle finger. They all come across as pretty dislikable.
They ran before and never made it very far. Both are horrid individuals.
Yeah I know but I can't think of anyone else unless maybe Nikki Haley? She was playing it down the middle and was criticizing Trump but backed off at the end. I can see her getting middle of the road votes
It's hard to say. They really have so many awful people in the party that it is going to take a lot of digging to find someone decent.
It will probably be Nikki Haley. She was siphoning off a huge chunk of trump voters and Independants in the middle there. She just had no backing. No money train
BUT she's a woman. The US is so far behind.
That's a good point
I think her ship has sailed. Four years will feel like forever and she will be an afterthought by then.
That's an understatement.
Newsom is my governor and I love how he stands up to MAGA but he is seen as being more left. I feel like Andy Bashear is seen as more of a moderate and has a broader appeal to voters. He also has a more down to earth approachability and communication style than Newsom.
Wow those two would be Awesome?