Because when we talk about having a male or female **body** then it depends on how your body developed, doesn't it? Male of female phenotype.
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You are one of those quacks that doesn't think intersex people exist, aren't you
aug 26, 2025, 11:59 am • 1 0 • view
Oh there are people with conditions that some call "intersex". I fully agree. But they are still male or female. There are also quiet a lot of people on the Internet who pretend to be intersex - it is a fashionable identity.
aug 26, 2025, 12:00 pm • 0 0 • view
For someone so tangled up in a lot of failed reading comprehension you sure seem confident you know everything. I'm a software engineer and even I can tell the claims you are making are a full misunderstanding of the paper you linked and the thread & replies. You are way over your skis bub.
aug 26, 2025, 12:09 pm • 0 0 • view
Please be specific about what I have misunderstood. Explain it to me or I can assume you are talking bullshit.
aug 26, 2025, 12:11 pm • 0 0 • view
Multiple people already have
aug 26, 2025, 12:11 pm • 1 0 • view
He says like multiple people haven’t repeatedly explained what he has misunderstood and covered his ears and said “nonono”
aug 26, 2025, 12:12 pm • 1 0 • view
No one has explained. They have made incorrect assertions without any evidence from the papers that I am wrong. Quote the papers - explain why I am wrong that only two discrete sexes have evolved.
aug 26, 2025, 12:17 pm • 0 0 • view
So you agree that it’s not only gametes! Congrats on coming around to the scientific truth
aug 26, 2025, 11:58 am • 1 0 • view
Male and female are defined with respect to a gamete type. There are two developmental pathways for your body - one is associated with eggs- the female body type; the other is associated with sperm- the male body type. This is not hard. But I appreciate how hard you are working not to understand.
aug 26, 2025, 11:59 am • 0 0 • view
But you just defined an androgen insensitive person as female for reasons other than gamete type. Such people do not generally produce large gametes.
aug 26, 2025, 12:04 pm • 0 0 • view
No their body is the type associated with eggs -even though they cannot produce eggs.
aug 26, 2025, 12:08 pm • 0 0 • view
…so you agree it’s not about gametes, it’s about having a handful of traits associated with a dimorphic sex binary
aug 26, 2025, 12:11 pm • 2 0 • view
It is about having a phenotype associated with a gamete type. That is what we mean when we say an organism has a sex. Do you want me to repeat that again?
aug 26, 2025, 12:13 pm • 0 0 • view
we’re so close! yes we’re on the same page now. phenotypes are not strict binaries. you can be naturally born and develop traits associated with both phenotypes. bimodal, not a strict binary. what sex are you if you have both a penis and a vagina?
aug 26, 2025, 12:17 pm • 1 0 • view
Two phenotypes have evolved. They are quite different. Humans can be classified as one or the other trivially. Only a few very rare cases pose difficulties and require medical investigations to understand someone is male or female. Evolution has made this so.
aug 26, 2025, 12:21 pm • 0 0 • view
PS Name the medical condition where someone has a penis and a vagina. And a case study perhaps. Or you are making it up.
aug 26, 2025, 12:21 pm • 0 0 • view
everything i have named is a real kind of intersex condition but there’s over a dozen types/i don’t know all their names off the top of my head. ambiguous genitalia is typically how intersex individuals are diagnosed so i suspect there’s a few different conditions that produce it.
aug 26, 2025, 12:39 pm • 0 0 • view
Exactly! A phenotype is an observable trait or characteristic of an organism, resulting from the expression of its genetic makeup (genotype) and influenced by environmental factors. They are female because they have a checklist of observable traits that add up to “female”, despite having testies
aug 26, 2025, 12:19 pm • 3 0 • view
What makes these traits "female" traits?
aug 26, 2025, 3:42 pm • 0 0 • view
Because our society deemed them to be based on assumptions about bimodalism that we have discovered through medical science to be an oversimplification, such as what we both agree to be the femaleness of the CAIS person, despite having testies, aka the means to make small gametes
aug 26, 2025, 4:02 pm • 0 0 • view
That does not answer the question. That is a bullshit answer.
aug 26, 2025, 4:10 pm • 0 0 • view
It’s worth noting that this is not the case with every culture, with many cultures having other sex assignment options
aug 26, 2025, 4:03 pm • 0 0 • view
Of course he stops replying now, lol
aug 26, 2025, 3:09 pm • 0 0 • view
Missed you post in the barrage. Please do clarify what we mean by the female end?
aug 26, 2025, 3:42 pm • 0 0 • view