You are avoiding the question. You do want to keep abusive cross-dressing and fetishistic men out I hope? How do you tell the difference between them and blameless "transwomen"?
You are avoiding the question. You do want to keep abusive cross-dressing and fetishistic men out I hope? How do you tell the difference between them and blameless "transwomen"?
Wait, now the cross-dressing isn't what's fetishistic? If so, what exactly is the fetish you're complaining about?
Paraphilias cluster. Someone who cross-dresses may also be a voyeur or exhibitionist. Or worse. And in all of this you show zero empathy for women and girl's dignity and privacy. That is very telling. You do not even acknowledge the problem.
So you can't even manage to tell me what fetish you're complaining about. Colour me shocked.
I exactly just did.
Do you believe society has an equal responsibility to serve trans people’s safety and dignity?
Indeed. But not at the expense of women and girls. Dismantling the protections for women is regressive and sexist. The trans movement needs to get a grip and change tack if they are not to be completely sidelined.
So you are interested in denying transgender people equal rights.
No. They have the same rights as everyone else in the UK ( I can't speak for other countries). The UK has robust equal rights laws for them. What right do you think I am denying them?
Sure sounds like you don't want a transgender woman to use the woman's locker room.
Correct. As they are for women and not men. Men do not have the right to use women's protected spaces. That applies to all men - so no discrimination here.
Trans women are women. So yeah, discrimination there, TERF.
How are these men being discriminated against when they claim to be women?
Well, hey now, that wasn’t the question. Do you think they *should* have those rights? Are those laws that you would have voted for?
I support the Equality Act 2010 which is the foundation of trans rights in the UK. As any law, it might be improved, but it gets a fair sense of balance. What rights do you think I am opposed to?
Is that the same law that explicitly recognizes that a person can change their sex?
No law in the UK does that. You can get a bit of paper to say that the law will deem you to be the sex you are not - but that is a different law, and rather redundant now as it does not really apply in any meaningful legal situations.
I was just making sure you weren’t trying to dodge the question.
And so what rights do you think I am opposed to?
How would you protect trans people?
What are we trying to protect them from? I am in the UK and we were one of the first countries to provide employment protections and other equality rights. You cannot discriminate against a man with a "gender reassignment" compared to another man without such a characteristic.
Well, stick with the “spaces“ question. It’s evident that you think trans women should not be allowed to use women’s bathrooms and locker rooms. Is the reverse true, as well?
What do you mean by "the reverse?"
Do you think trans men should not be allowed to use men’s bathrooms and locker rooms?
I have less strong views here as women do not present the same risk to men as men do to women.
Spinalonga probably has room since 1957... /s
Anything that doesn't allow people to get off to them.
That tracks. I don't know if they've realized how funny this disingenuous little "you wouldn't let in abusers, now would you?" tack they're trying is.
I hope your own answer to that is not to send someone else’s trans daughter to go shower with the men instead.
Oh, I'm sure it is.