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Joffiecakes @joffie.bsky.social

Protecting free speech is a political thing, not a literal physical thing. They have a right to say whatever they want. They do not have a right to protection via body guard. The words are protected, not the mouths that are shouting them.

aug 18, 2025, 3:37 pm • 5 0

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Stacy @demdefend.bsky.social

That’s my point. The OP suggests the police sanctioned this with her wording. Just because they monitored this doesn’t mean they were providing an escort.

aug 18, 2025, 3:39 pm • 0 0 • view
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Joffiecakes @joffie.bsky.social

Potato/potahto Citizens also have a right to respond and I’m guessing the majority of yours would prefer that Indianapolis be known as the city whose inhabitants dealt with Nazis the old-fashioned way, rather than…whatever that was.

aug 18, 2025, 3:45 pm • 3 0 • view
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Stacy @demdefend.bsky.social

Of course citizens have a right to respond. My problem is the language of the post presenting this differently than it was.

aug 18, 2025, 3:50 pm • 0 0 • view
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Joffiecakes @joffie.bsky.social

I get that - but I also get this: bsky.app/profile/ogla...

aug 18, 2025, 3:52 pm • 1 0 • view
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Stacy @demdefend.bsky.social

Presenting this as an escort is dishonest and suggests this is sanctioned. It’s not.

aug 18, 2025, 4:31 pm • 0 0 • view
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Joffiecakes @joffie.bsky.social

Of course it’s sanctioned. They’re always sanctioned, in every city. The last time the KKK marched here, in Austin, TX, counter demonstrators were kept multiple blocks away, and we were extremely unhappy about it.

aug 18, 2025, 4:34 pm • 0 0 • view
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Lauren @oglauren.bsky.social

It is sanctioned. Learn about basic laws.

aug 18, 2025, 4:32 pm • 1 0 • view
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Stacy @demdefend.bsky.social

I have.

aug 18, 2025, 4:39 pm • 0 0 • view
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Lauren @oglauren.bsky.social

And yet you don't understand that allowing a hate group to march the streets w/ a permit is a hate crime & therefore illegal. That having the cops following a hate group to help "monitor" the people they should arrest for existing is also a full on crime. That allowing slurs in public is a crime 🤣

aug 18, 2025, 4:50 pm • 2 0 • view
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Stacy @demdefend.bsky.social

We cannot arrest people for existing. Hate speech is often protected speech. It’s not 100% one way or the other. And yeah, I think we’re way too lenient on hate speech too, but expecting cops to arrest nonviolent protesters is basically giving them an excuse to do it to anyone.

aug 18, 2025, 5:00 pm • 0 0 • view
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Joffiecakes @joffie.bsky.social

I don’t speak for Lauren, but I think the point is that the groups themselves should not have *any kind of representation, sanctioned or otherwise.

aug 18, 2025, 5:03 pm • 0 0 • view
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Lauren @oglauren.bsky.social

🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 www.amnestyusa.org/aiusa-docume... www.buzzfeednews.com/article/clar... www.cnn.com/2016/07/10/u...

aug 18, 2025, 5:16 pm • 1 0 • view
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Lauren @oglauren.bsky.social

Black and brown people are arrested for existing all the time, so yes, you can. 🤣 ICE has been doing these kidnapping bits since 2002. Hate speech is only protected in the US because all of your reps use slurs & hate speech on a regular basis. Normal countries don't protect hate speech.

aug 18, 2025, 5:08 pm • 1 0 • view
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Lauren @oglauren.bsky.social

Hate speech is not free speech

aug 18, 2025, 4:33 pm • 1 0 • view
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Joffiecakes @joffie.bsky.social

No, it is not. Nor should it ever be.

aug 18, 2025, 4:36 pm • 1 0 • view
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Joffiecakes @joffie.bsky.social

Tbf, legislatively speaking it’s different regionally - but cops are cops and the whole system is rigged and racist as fuck.

aug 18, 2025, 4:41 pm • 1 0 • view
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Stacy @demdefend.bsky.social

Agree the system is rigged.

aug 18, 2025, 4:44 pm • 1 0 • view
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Joffiecakes @joffie.bsky.social

But also, police - nationwide - are the same as they were at their origins. They were formed to protect slavers and have never been truly reformed.

aug 18, 2025, 4:54 pm • 2 0 • view