After Hitler hid in a bunker and ended his own life

Also, we executed a bunch of Nazis for crimes against humanity.

I think that the only reason that we didn't with most of the Japanese was they did it for us. And stripping the Emperor of his divinity and making him recognize that he was merely human was close enough to an execution for him.

Because Hitler saw the writing on the wall, didn't like what he saw, and decided to try to cover it up with his brains.

Your turn now, Vlad.

And Netanyahu.

Unconditionally too It really was "sign or we continue to bomb the shit out of you"

The small bits of your country that we haven't already occupied, that is. Japan, yes, and we have a fancy new labor saving device, the atomic bomb, you won't have a chance to kill more than a handful of us, for each city we destroy.

🎯 Jodl wasn’t “negotiating” anything

And the confederacy…

As did Japan.

As did Iraq

as did the CSA

They surrendered after 2 nuclear bombs were dropped. Not much negotiating there!

As did Trump. But that's another topic.

Both unconditionally

Roosevelt refused to negotiate conditional surrender.

Bingo!

I don’t recall them keeping parts of France or Belgium or any other Country they invaded either.

Fairly sure both were occupied & Germany, awa its capital, Berlin, were divided. Taught in all kinds of history classes, starting with eighth grade. #LearnHistory

I'm not so sure red states teach this any longer. I'm not sure they teach anything of history.

Or being give any places they hadn't invaded.

On the contrary.

Those who win the war write the history.

Gee, that doesn't sound very negotiationesque.

Is it a negotiation is one side gets everything they want and the other side gets squat?

That seems to be what Trump believes.

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Yeah it’s the American negotiation.

Or an atom bomb?

The only thing that were “negotiated” were details about how to implement a ceasefire on land, air and sea and the organization of surrender of troops and material.The Japanese managed to keep their emperor since they considered him “holy”.I don’t know if the US offered this, or if it was negotiated

Keeping him in "power" was negotiated yes.

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What does Newsom's self-evident midlife crisis have to do with anything?

Couch rapier Vance says Ukraine and Russia as all wars end in negotiations? Vance made that up, like I suspect I know where he got that, where he keeps his head.

Given his dictatorial style and enormous ego, Trump probably considers defeat with unconditional surrender as being “negotiation”. (As would Putin)

Hitler and Hirohito are rolling over….

Parts of is now Germany and France, have been shifting between them and also sovereign states at times. Most known is Saarland, who joined in voluntarily to West-Germany in '47. Besides that, all terrotiry seized in Europe was done by Soviet Union. With force and suppression.

We aktchwuallyy rejoined two times, both times after we chose so ourselves by referendums: - 1935 when Germany was the Third Reich and we were a League of Nations Mandate - and 1955/56 when Germany was a the democratic Federal Republic and we where part autonomic and part under french authority.

Well Russia actually did!

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But the USSR kept Poland, Baltic states, Hungary, Slavic states, half of Germany etc. Now that those countries managed independence from Russian control, this time Russia is acting out the part played by Nazi Germany.

Germany didn't even get to keep all of Germany...

and England foisted Israel on Palestine. Peoples were forcibly removed from their land of many many generations.

I don’t recall their leaders keeping their lives, either. Must have been terrible negotiators, the Nazis…

The USSR did, though.

Other then Russia they keep lots now they want it back because they are criminals

So should Ukraine surrender Like France in Ww2 ? Or Like America in Vietnam ?

No

Should the war continue until Putin is overthrown ? Or killed in a nuclear strike ?

It should continue until Ukraine no longer says it can continue.

But Should America nuke Moscow ?

F*CK no

Should America give back Land it conquered ?

After they had the proverbial beaten out of them. That really really wasn’t negotiation. Most wars ended with winners and losers. Non negotiable. Many losers ended as slaves.

And from smoking piles of rubble

But, you see, the bombing of Pearl Harbor was just the opening of a negotiation.

Dusko popov had all the information needed to prohib that attack. J Edgar hoover suppressed that information.

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LOL even if true it doesn’t exactly mitigate the impact of Japan’s decision to press the “Go” button.

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Japan gave up everything to keep the Emperor. And that's it, as far as I know. I'm pretty sure Germany got nothing. Italy had already fallen apart years before, so there wasn't a Fascist government to negotiate with, as Mussolini was hanging upside down at a gas station. Vance is a sketchy liar.

We knew before that he's pretty clueless. He's endeavoring to prove it.

An they didn't get any extra territory.

We all lose territory. People was displaced. Italians from the actual Slovenia, Germans from königsburg and sudeti, japanese from the kuril islands. This is history

And the reorganised political parties (CLN) showed that there was a real possibility of starting a free liberal political regime, respectful of human rights and without expansionist ambitions

Although the Potsdam Declaration (which formed the basis of the surrender) used the term "unconditional", Japan agreed to surrender on its terms with one exception -- Hirohito remained emperor -- and the Allies accepted that condition.

Eh. Japan got to keep the Emperor. But yes.

And lost territory

Not totally. We let Japan keep their emporer

Sure...but he remained subservient to Gen. MacArthur.

Then, there was the whole 'Hitler blew his brains out' thingy.

Having been battered into submission and with no territorial gains.

Both lost their war

Yes...but Ukraine hasn't.

Then they should be able to demand concessions thru negotiations

Italy agreed to a negotiated & conditional surrender, but that didn't end the war there. Germany immediately seized much of Italy & resisted Allied advances. As in Germany & Japan, it was the defeat of Axis forces & their unconditional surrender that ended the war in Italy, not any negotiations.

Italy did that after the leader was a piñata

I doubt that's Vance's idea, but I can get behind the idea of a Putin pinata and then negotiate.

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It's unanimous. I'll send the Kremlin a quick note asking them to hang Putin upside-down from a lamp pole, by his balls. I know that Mussolini wasn't hung by his balls, but I choose to pretend he was.

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Not actually. Mussolini was ousted in a coup in 1943, the military coup leader surrendered to the allies, the Germans seized most of Italy & set up a rival government that I think was nominally led by Mussolini. Piñata time came in 1945, I think shortly after German forces in Italy surrendered.

OH. I have more reading to do.

I did some reading about this too. I knew Italy surrendered before Germany, but all the details I had to look up.

And go way back remember the South they surrendered too.

Ah, but they negotiated what TIME to sign the surrender documents.

Twice

Germany was beaten into to a pulp. Militarily. The surrender act was just a formality for organizing into the postwar period.

Yes; that process had nothing to do with real negotiations.

Twice. In 1918 and in 1945.

No it didn’t in 1918. There was an Armistice and then Versailles in 1919 which was a peace treaty. Specifically unconditional surrender was demanded to avoid that catastrophe. Germany was occupied as surrendered in 1945.

Germany was conquered. Some general and the new leader surrendered the whole nation. That’s not negotiating.

Twice.

technically, though it was a negotiated surrender -- the Germans negotiated an "unconditional surrender" that would allow them to surrender to Western Allies, because Eisenhower threatened to force the German Army to surrender to Russia otherwise.

Eisenhower specifically said no ficking way, you surrender to all of us. You don’t get to choose the western Allies.

except, in fact, Eisenhower threatened to shut off the Western Front, which would have forced the remaining German forces to surrender to the Russians.

Source The Battle for Berlin: The End of the Third Reich, Earl F Ziemke (page 130)

The Germans surrendered to the Soviets. What history have you been learning

May 4th. To Montgomery the Germany army in Netherlands, northwest Germany, and Denmark. Surrendered. The Brits got their first lol. Get in 😂

An army surrender is not a surrender of Germany. Read a book that isn’t by Hastings, boomer.

His profile says he’s a contrarian. Which is code for wrong.

Germany is from the armies of America and Russia in the 2. World War II defeated and liberated by the Nazis!

Ukraine and NATO should too

Surrender to who?

And the south too if he want to go back to his grandparents

Unconditional surrender as did Japan and despite both of them trying to get some negotiated surrender