A new generation of Democratic leaders is stepping into the spotlight—organizing, winning races, and reshaping the party’s future with new energy and a new message. But will the establishment they're challenging allow them to rise? Read more here:
A new generation of Democratic leaders is stepping into the spotlight—organizing, winning races, and reshaping the party’s future with new energy and a new message. But will the establishment they're challenging allow them to rise? Read more here:
It's going to be a rough 10 years until the current establishment group ages out and the millennials pry the reigns from their cold, dead hands.
There are amazing young Dems serving in Congress. Among them: Lauren Underwood, Sharice Davids, Shontel Brown, & Maxwell Frost. The current DNC vice chairs: Malcom Kenyatta, Artie Blanco, & Shasti Conrad. Maybe before criticizing “establishment” Dem leaders, learn who they are.
What part of the “establishment” is left? I’m blue, but the Dems have no identity, purpose or messaging. Who’s the part leader? What’s our direction. Half the country doesn’t care.
Something needs to happen. As much as I love the Dem party they just aren’t being aggressive enough. Actually I do not read about them doing anything at all. I’m watching the important legit news & do not see much.
Whomever it is, I expect them to come armed for battle, and ready to take down these Nazi fucks. Not just remove them, jail them! January 6th gets investigated, and the stolen documents too. And all the Epstein pedophiles get outed and jailed!
#No religious candidates!!! #SeparationOfChurchAndState!!!!
We need them.
Just watched Talarico on @nicollewallace and he makes so much sense.
Yes!! Future Seattle mayor Katie Wilson is brilliant and hard working! I grew up with her. Our families celebrated holidays together, including Darwin’s birthday. She has always thought deeply and challenged the system. ✊🏻 Katie Wilson for mayor!!
A new generation of Democratic VOTERS can call all the shots. Will they? 👇
By definition, the "establishment" never supports a new message or a "reshaping" of the future. Doesn't matter. It always happens anyway.
I have either volunteered for, donated to, staffed, and ran a campaign for elected office as a Democrat every two years since I was 19 years old. I'm 62. I've done what I could. I'm ready for a new generation to take over. They're ready too
If they don't take a back seat & hand the reigns over to these young people the party will continue to LOSE! It's time for the "Old Guard" to give the new generation the benefit of your years of experience in ideas & suggestions then let them, make the choices of how to move forward!
It’s time for a change.. the old way of doing things no longer works. Time for fresh, new faces and voices.
Sadly the Dems have learned nothing. They would rather lose the house, senate and presidency than turn on their corporate masters. Legacy Dems hate progressives. Look what they did to Bernie or what they’re trying to do to Mandami. They are happy to get richer and make meaningless incremental change
I hope so. Old folks. Retire already! I did so you can too!
Yes. It will.
The older leaders need to step aside and let the youth take over now. Our time has come and gone. It's time for the next generations to step up.
Too little too late??
The establishment won't have a choice, we'll vote the new ones in and every last one that stands in the way OUT
Sadly, no they won’t, because the reality is the Dem leaders are basically Republican lite. We’re going to have to let time and biology do its work.
It is very much time for the US to draw a line under its dismal political genrontocracy.
DNC better let them. We need these young leaders.
get rid of all those old farts and bring in the young blood
That's a good article or it just leans to my way of thinking. Seriously there is a problem in politics. It's old people who want the job for life, and I mean life. Their minds like mine are often not quick enough to see change. We had societal change in the 60's & 70's . We quicker minds.
Depends on their willingness to call out Salesforce or stay quiet.
The old guard Democrats have outlived their usefulness. Time for them all to go. Too much is at stake to let them retain what little power they still cling to.
Many appear to be complicit at this point.
Time for New, Young, Energetic Dems to take the reins!... Look where we are with the Establishment!... Change will be very positive!!
No. The old guard will not willingly change to embrace the next generation of progressive leaders. We are seeing that in NYC now with Mamdani running for Mayor.
“Vote blue no matter who, unless they’re threatening us from the left.” -minority leader Jeffries
Definitely…. You can’t possibly have anything good come out of changing the system apparently.
Exactly. I guess we can't acknowledge the good for the country that Mamdani won his race for mayor.
He hasn’t won yet, but he definitely upset the old guard applecart. Let’s see what the old guard does to try to derail his campaign
Exactly. 🤣😂😭😭😭 we shall see how his policies go and then we will have all the answers.
110%. “Well, sure, he delivered on the things that he promised. But these polices just aren’t popular with our donors broadly, so we won’t be able to do anything except prop up the markets.”
Just as they did with AOC.
Exactly. I did not like AOC at first, but she learned quickly and has become quite impressive so far.
I did like her right away. I could see that she was strong enough to stand up for herself, strong enough to endure hardship to educate herself and lift herself out of a tough situation, and also articulate. I saw that she had compassion and empathy. Those are qualities I look for in a candidate. 🙌😊
Don't worry, I'm sure that the gerontocrats at the DNC will be as accepting of their voices as they have been of anyone under sixty who wants a say in how decisions are made and doesn't want to keep the status quo.
Gerontoctats, perfect! So many of them so hideously out of touch. I’m 61, & I want my experience & wisdom to be heard, but I’d feel like I was already dead if I refused to hear & take counsel from the youngers. It’s their world we’re destroying by our stubbornness & desperation to hold on to “power”
That’s the big question. Sadly so many Dems have been too comfortable for too long and it is painfully obvious that no one wants more of the same - we need change and growth to fight off the bigotry, racism and ultra right wing Republicans
I hope so, George...I hope so. ❤️
No one is stopping them. If they dont win, its because the voters wanted someone else. Dont do this conspiracy BS.
We have to let them!!!!
Smash the patriarchy.
It’s what this party needs and wants! Fresh ideas and faces! Good communicators! And for the love of all-a younger median age in congress! Please!!!!!
Agreed on all stated except winning races.There’s needed work to be done. The elder democrats need to give the young a chance to prove themselves .We’re in the Revolution. It’s here as fascisim & authoritarianism.We have one last chance to combat the ruthless new “Maga Republicans”
Narrator: "They will not."
Keep talking about age. Yeah, that'll bring The Olds to support your position. 🙄 They bring a new strategy, new methods and new skills. Their age is irrelevant. But, by all means, focus on age.
Age does matter. Look what you have in government. The Republicans‘ average age must be about 79. They should have retired 10 years ago.
I submit 2 older, energetic, CURRENT office holders: Bernie Sanders and Chuck Grassley. And 2 younger, energetic, CURRENT office holders: AOC and Maxwell Frost. What they have in common is Skill. Strategy and coalition-building Experience. Those characteristics have Nothing to do with age.
Absolutely age matters. Try applying to any normal job as an 80 yr old and see how many interviews you land.
Yes and how many people still work at 80 unless they can arrange their own work hours and nap on the job?
My mother, thank you very much.
So you acknowledge ageism exists as a permissible form of discrimination.
Yes, when old oafs suffer visible onset of dementia, fall asleep at work it’s time for them to retire.
... and yet, Trump got reelected. 😠 I'm not arguing for poor performance. I'm saying age (young or old) doesn't guaranty and isn't predictive of good performance. No group can carry an election w/o allies - even older ones. How do you plan to partner with people you openly deride?
Yeah. He got elected and he's doing a real shit job because his brain is mush. I don't want people with mush brains ruling over us. Wanna keep an old man or two around the same way the oval office has a fireplace, fine. But old heads have failed us everytime they weasel their way into office.
Would you hire a 5 year old to be a surgeon?
She would hire an 80 year old forgetful surgeons who isn’t steadying their feet.
Not that you're entitled to this information, but an 81 yr-old surgeon who was the head of the University department in the specialty I needed, performed, rare, life-saving surgery on me. This discourse is wearing thin.
Is it ageist to hire an old man who can't do the job over a kid who can't do the job?
This question doesn’t need answering. There are 100s of jobs old people can’t do b/c of cognitive & physical failing but in politics they hang around well past their retirement age just v/c they can. That‘s the issue, I think. You need age limits.
That's not ageist as much as it's dumb. And, again, it gets to my point. I don't care about age. I care about ideas, skill and strategy. But when people make age the primary dis-qualifier (or qualifier), I wonder what strategy they think will convince the disqualified to join their cause.
If a 5 year old had somehow managed to go through med school and pass their boards, do an internship at a credible institution ... Sure. Because they would have had to be a genius.
Who cares about the establishment? It only matters what the people think and the people are done with the establishment.
If any of the current Democratic leaders will retire/step aside already, and not hunker down, planning to die in office.
Every member of the House Democratic leadership team is under 60 years old.
Did you see this @georgetakei.bsky.socia ? 🏳️⚧️🏳️🌈❤️
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I love @jamestalarico.bsky.social !! He’s an outstanding leader! He needs to be in Congress!
Some good young representatives in CO and NM, too.
James Talarico from Texas is an interesting man. He’s a Christian and a breath of fresh air in comparison to the old stale right wing ‘Christian’ fundamentalist who ban books and deny women obstetric healthcare. Greetings from Australia 😊
Actually I'm a transplanted Australian.👋 Ended up over here just as things got real interesting.
You’re in Texas?
A very progressive spot in Colorado. We couldn't have managed Texas.
Oh, I’ve been in Colorado. Spent 10 days in Marble. Do you know it? Whereabouts are you?
Marble looks gorgeous! We'll have to visit. We're about an hour north of denver on what is called 'The Front Range, just east of the Rockies, very flat and suburban but a lovely area.
Marble is lovely and the marble they cut there is as white as snow. I was surprised how flat Denver is because I never looked at the map before I got there. lol I loved the Denver train station to the airport. It’s a real gem.
They will all be in prison before the next "election". Dictators do that sort of thing.
Not unless they sign a pledge to follow whatever Israel and AIPAC tells them to do like the current democratic leaders. Because they do not work for us. That's obvious
Don't forget Omar Fateh in Minneapolis who's running for Mayor 👏🏿👏🏿💯💪🏿
Fuck the establishment, they are who the people want.
Fuck the establishment - they're the reason we're here. Time to take the reigns from them.
I love James Talarico. Watch his TikToks.
S A M E he was just on with Nicole Wallace
He is so well spoken. He has a Pete Buttigieg vibe
That's an insult to JT. He's superior in every way to Mayor Mayonnaise.
Don't forget Pete Buttigieg.
Rep. Maxwell Frost!
Let them!
They won't. The old guard would rather watch democracy burn then hand over the baton
It’s up to us. The people.
The Old Donkeys better get out of the way They need put out to pasture The Dems need fresh ideas, new blood and the courage and innovation that youth brings
We need them!
Let them!
I really hope so. We need a dramatic change in the Democratic Party
Are the Establishment Democrats in the room with us right now? Who has been stopped from running in a primary?
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Get out of the way and let the young ones in!
Let's hope that they are strong and intelligent
I have been following Kat Abughazaleh. She seems pretty awesome. Her campaign office doubles as mutual aid center. Food and other necessities available for any who need them.
It's Time!! And the establishment is failing big time.
In addition to the Mayoral, Seattle has a City Attorney's race. @electrory.bsky.social is running against a Republican incumbent. He's not the D establishment's 1st choice. He's focusing on fighting Trump, but also on using the office to address Seattle's housing crisis and protect renters.
Mamdani is a disgrace.
If they don’t we’re screwed
We need new blood because the current leaders are PATHETIC 😖
Schumer is vying to become the Strom Thurmond of the left-ish-esque.
Party affiliation is obsolete. We, the people, are disrupting the establishments narratives with rank choice voting. Just might be time to dust off the sentiment - "Don't trust anyone over 30".
This 68 yr old retired teacher is cheering them on. Time for all the old folks in Congress to join me in retirement.
Go Zohran!
Democratic leadership is as useful as tits on a bull. They’ve proven they’re not up to the moment, and must either step down, or be primaried OUT of their seats.
This is vital to the future of the party and our democracy.
The only way the olllld establishment guard of the democrat party would be willing to let young a new generation of democrats, who are organizing and winning races be acknowledged, is if the dark money of aipac allows them
George, come help us in CO!
While this is so badly needed, new blood to lead the Democratic Party, I still feel like it requires some leadership from the more centrist point of view. Frankly - a non-coastal candidate will more likely be perceived as electable, and seize other non- affiliated voters
No, the establishment will not allow them to rise. They've been stopping people my entire life. We've had groups of Democrats. Try to jump in and change things and they were met with boomers
No. Of course they won’t. Look what’s happening to Mamdani. Neither Schumer nor Jeffries will endorse him.
Why should they endorse an anti-semite?
It’s about Damn time! We need younger people at our table!👏👏💙
We will force the reins out of their wrinkly, swollen hands, although, bring Jaime Raskin along, he is an outstanding orator, Moskowitz is good, but he's no Raskin...
R e lease them
Fuck the establishment. They've had their chance. Time to retire and let the next generation do the work.
It might
Include Kat
The establishment has no choice if we are to save our Constitutional Republic
Trust me, they’d rather keep power. Pelosi is running again for example. Also. The changing of the guard is handing leadership from one person in the oldest half of the population to another person in the oldest half of the population. In fact democrats clearly believe no one from the youngest >>>
half of the adult population can lead anything within the elected leadership of the Democratic Party.
Democrats need to establish an identity that we all share. It isn’t the one that the established party clings to. Consider this as a better story: medium.com/@pkswenson/t...
Screw the establishment, they're not doing much. Let the people, once again, decide. Republicans don't want anyone but them to decide. We need the people everywhere to decide.
The leader of the Democrats (if only they had one) should have been holding a press conference every single day, pointing out all of Trump's lies and criminal acts from the day before. Every single day. Every lie. Every law broken. Every corrupt act. Why on Earth aren't they doing this? Why?
A spokesperson said, "We Democrats clearly dont give a rat's ass about Trump destroying America, but we will NOT STOP until we get rid of anyone who calls themselves a Democrat and wants to actually do anything good, or make a positive difference in any way. You've come to the wrong party, people!"
David Hogg
James Talarico is my favorite
I like him too! He is sensible and articulate. He will go far wherever he chooses!
I love how he uses the bible to prop up his arguments against people who claim to be Christians
Hope they will resonate and be desired for national leadership
Weak kneed Democrats need to stand the fuck aside and let these fighters through
Maxwell Frost!
Out with the old, in with the new!
Well they do their darndest to suppress the likes of Ocasio Cortez, so I can't see it myself
The time to clean up our party is NOW. Would love if we start w/corporate wing, forced retirements & bypassing leaders who listen and follow a certain NYT columnist who wrote a book about Abundance. The latter opine, changing party values to compete w/RW extremism, will lead to election success?
“Abundance” is just repackaged neoliberalism, and it will absolutely not solve any problems this country is facing. Industry MUST be regulated, and wealth must be taxed for the benefit of The People. Anything less than is a non starter, full stop.
Spoiler: No, no they won’t. Because their dead inside and think the assholes that lost them the last election, the consultant rocket surgeons, are the ones to listen to. Primary all corporate Dems. Hire David Hogg again.
I see no need to vote for them.
The answer of any establishment to giving up power is NO. The only way change will happen is if you make it. Only title I want to see is new blood & ideology takes control of a decrepit & moribund institution That failed to beat corrupt pathological lying, incompetent child sex offender. Twice.
Well, the Democratic leaders of late haven't done a good job against Trump and MAGA, so...let's hope so!
I’m excited about it. We need young blood in the party.
This! I think James Talerico is the dark horse we need for President!
It was always going to happen, the boomers were never going to always be in power and due to the continuing shift to the left over time things like whats happening today will become a thing of the past.
Hope so. Old fart Democrats are getting nothing done and no resistance.
No because even Democrats crave to stay in power
Term limits. For House, Senate, Supreme Court. This would open room for many younger people who want to run for office and serve. I'm 67 and I don't want an 80 year old deciding the fate of this country. This isn't ageism, this is just reality. Fresh faces and ideas are what we need.
I would go with age limits. Corporations have them for executives--they're out at 65. They don't want to risk being led by somebody with diminishing energy and mental acuity. I'm 74, and it's time for the comet to hit the dinosaurs.
Good! The Democrats need new young people to take over.
You didn't mention David Hogg who the establishment dems successfully turned into a boogeyman for trying to change the party in exactly the same way. What was his sin? He wanted to use the $ from within. Not just from without.
Bring on 🌺🦋Jasmine Crockett🩷 🇦🇺🐨
They should!
@katmabu.bsky.social should be on this list, too!
I'm not holding my breath. I'd like to see more women and diversity, but the Dems don't look diverse enough to resemble our beautiful rainbow, so I'm not hopeful.
Excellent. Imo, it’s time for new, younger leadership in our party. Most of the these tired old pols, and their strongly worded letters, need to move on as they cannot meet this moment.
We have to give them no choice
I think we already know the answer. The old Dems was to reign until the last even though it means the destruction of the nation.
The dumbocratic party is just another corporate entity just like the repukicans. They don’t give a shit about you me or the American people. It’s just a game, because money loves money
It started when the #DNC shafted #Bernie- Those of us who had so much hope for a future where we could thrive saw that hope shattered by greed and corruption. Its only gotten worse since. They're pushing for another 'Battle of Michigan Avenue' (1968). www.history.com/this-day-in-...
Not fast enough...and we need more of them.
Sorry but regardless of how these individuals do, the future of the Democratic Party is not on the far left. Why list these and not Colin Allred, Abigail Spanberger, or Elissa Slotkin?
Go go go !!!!
The establishment already stepped down. The people who hate the current leadership can never be satisfied.
The old guard stands in the way a younger Democratic Party. cbwrong.blogspot.com/2025/07/toda...
@jamestalarico.bsky.social is wonderful and needs a bigger platform!
my favorite!
They need to move aside then, more younger voices need to be heard!!!
Let the younger generation run things for a while. People our age mucked it up.
Excellent question..wisdom is needed, not geriatric politicians without any.
Fresh blood and new ideas Is what the Democrats need they are the face's of the future.
Looking at NYC; no. They had one chance: stop Trump, and they failed. Let new blood come in and fight.
That's where the real problem is....the old fuck Democrats
No thanks. The issue is to defeat the GOP. Not destroy the Dem Party. Far left meets far right.
Just identified the shitlib in chat that’s gonna prop up the establishment in the face of progressive change, and the energy needed to defeat fascism. You can take a seat, bubba, and get in line with it. Have some healthcare and an equitable wage, the “far left’s” gifts to you when we take power.
I bet you want police reform too.
I bet you love Bernie, Moscow, and the far left Communists.
I bet you think billionaires create jobs.
I bet you think that Bernie will hand out lots of free cheeseburgers.
I bet you think socialism is about free stuff while you dream of someday being a landlord so you don't have to work.
Wasn't Tulsi Gabbard one of these new blood democrats once?
she was always and still is a Russian ASSet
Yes, she was. I remember because I was an early Bernie supporter. I was in multiple Bernie FB groups and my local in-person Bernie group. Tulsi was a leftie darling then and many wanted her to be VP. Once I left the fold I researched her and found out about her dicey history.
The old leadership is ineffective, uninspiring, and tired. We can't win with them still in charge.
I never thought I'd support a preacher for president. James Talarico for president.
They had better.
If they don't, the party is over so to speak.
I think they'll push back against these new individuals. Even in ways that might not be obvious. The Democrats are known for throwing their own under the bus as well as others who try to support them. All they have to do is pull back on some 'extreme views' like Newson is with trans rights.
Its great that fresh faces with real ideas and ideals are showing up, but there are some old guard that need to be primaried out of the solar system as well. The only way we are going to get the old out is to make them leave.
"Old people, who needs them", about as old a sentiment as "kids these days". The baby boom generation that you want to remove had to do the same thing. There contribution was beneficial, but hard won. Really what is needed is for the DNC to stay out of the primaries, which they should.
Its not profitable to thier donors so they will do everything possible to stop them
Yes, we need the younger generation. I follow David Hogg - we need young people like him. Pelosi, Schumer, and any senator/congressman over 75 needs to get out of the way!
You need a white privileged male of Republican parents who grifted DNC voting data to ask for donations to his PAC that he pays himself $174k a year from, while blaming Democrats for why he can't get laid,... why exactly?
Not if AIPAC has anything to say about it. Look what they did to Jamaal Bowman and Cory Bush.
Socialism turns away more voters than it attracts
All thanks to years of propaganda
Allow them to ?
It's past time Democrats moved progressive or get out of the damned way.
Let us know when "progressives" stop being republican enabling, racist fucks, then we'll talk.
Wtf are you talking about?
The old guard Democrats are not doing enough to let the MAGA group run over them. Easy to say, they have the majority so nothing we can do. Or just wait until the midterms. The country may not exist at that time.
Go tell Mitch McConnell there’s nothing he can do cuz he’s in the minority during Obama’s administration.
No. Normie dem is the way
In with the new, fresh ideas
No, we won’t! Because the Dem establishment sucks!
So far no. The @schumer.senate.gov and #NancyPelosis of the @democrats.senate.gov & @housedemocrats.bsky.social are refusing to allow these newer mmbrs to chair committees or take on leadership roles #Chuck&Nancy and company are proving some, many are aging very very badly. Shame on #TheDemocrats
They also don’t seem to understand why #DemVoters are so pissed off at #Chuck&Nancy and the rest who refuse to admit their time is over… Retire already 🤬
The establishment will fight tooth and nail to stop them. Ask David Hogg.
Well, the establishment has no choice, they're old, they will die off, and who will replace them? The next generation, the ones who have seen the mess they created, the damage they have left and they are the people who have suffered, it's their future, and they're going to take it back...
They’ve got a lot of work to do.
I am hoping the bursting of the Trump Epstein crisis will be the tipping point where the people will no longer allow the establishment to continue to challenge OUR Rise!
They should concentrate on Red States. Honestly. There are a lot of Democrats wishing we had someone Blue to vote for.
Shumer, Jeffries need to step aside. I respect Jeffries, he's just too mellow to lead at this time. Shumer has had his day. Bye bye.
Not untill they have taken their bribes, oh sorry I mean communicated with lobbyists of coorporate interrests.
...good luck
The establishment needs to get out of the way or support fully these terrific candidates.
It’s not a question of allowing - they will have no choice. That is always how power has moved through generations. The old rarely give it away, it has to yanked out of the often cold dead clammy hands.
A: No. No it won't
Get rid of all the democrats in Washington over the age of 60. They are ineffective and a disappointment. The party needs new blood!
They HAVE TOO
Kick those old crooks out...
as an angry old punk rocker with a certain amount of wisdom gained through the healing of death-defying physical and emotional scars, please let me quote something i once bleached into the leg of my levi's when i was 16: FUCK THE ESTABLISHMENT thank you.
I have yet to see this. This party is throwing minorities under the bus to be more "centrist". Fuck centrists.
Rise young Democrats, Rise!
HURRY
GOOD PEOPLE 🏆🏆🏆
Schumer has to go, Jeffries has to go and creeps like Fetterman and Gillibrand should resign. with people like them, democrats are going to lose big in 2026, if there are even midterms elections.
Dems are polling lower than Trump but seem to think running as “Not a Republican” is a masterstroke of campaigning, while undermining AOC, Mamdani and other bright spots at every turn.
Sure
It is really dysfunctional that they act more afraid of the young candidates than they do the demented racist chaos jockeys in the White House.
Agree 100% Pelosi
They love their stock options too much to part with that power.
No they won’t, because all leaders are power hungry.
that's riiiiight seattle's current mayor has done nothing on climate action, has done nothing on safe streets, has done nothing on housing affordability. it's long past time for these feckless politicians to step aside for young leaders like mamdani and wilson
Passing the torch got Jefferies. Earn that shit
We need people like this, ones who actually stand up to Maga rather than give in because our rich doners will be sad.
@pelosi.house.gov @schiff.senate.gov etc need to get on board with the game being different or get the fuck out of the way! GOP is NOT the party of the past & Dems can’t run elections the way they used to!!!
I sure hope so. I want to see Pete, Beto and everyone else start kicking some ass. I’m one of those independents who has a brain and pays attention to. Ye olde guarde needs to go.
JFK..........41 CARTER...51 CLINTON..44 OBAMA.....47 BIDEN at age 78 was an outlier. The Dems win with youth.
Our last hope…
Schumer,Gillibrand and Jeffries have to go. NY vote them out.
Easy fix. Vote the old guard out. Problem solved.
Easy fix if we stay engaged.
I’m twice their age, and I couldn’t be happier to give them the reins. My generation? We suck.
I can do without the religious aspect. It’s bullshit and is a large part of why we’re in this mess. How can Dems say they want separation of church and state, and demonstrate just the opposite with this Texan?
Please, Old Dems, step aside and let's move into a Brave New World! I'm in my late 70s and it makes no sense not to retire and take it easier, write your memoirs,enjoy your family, read just for pleasure.
It's time.
As long as we keep them coming, the tide will have to turn because it's going to be obvious That's what the people want. At some point, they will be forced to care about what their own constituents want.
IDK, any of Chuck Schumer's family members looking for high paying zero responsibility jobs in Wall Street/Corporate America?