Do you think Kilmar Abrego Garcia is still alive?
Do you think Kilmar Abrego Garcia is still alive?
I am very much afraid he isn't.
This is my biggest question after today’s news that DOJ doesn’t even know where he is.
He is either in terrible shape or dead. The gop does not want him back either way. Shame on all of them.
I hope so. I got pretty concerned today when DOJ lawyers claimed to not have any idea where he’s at. Sounded like a convenient way for him to end up dead, but obviously I hope I’m wrong.
Jesus, they’re likely to Nalvany him away
They'd rather have him dead than here and talking about what goes on there. I'm not a conspiracy guy who's saying that they made it happen, just that they wouldn't mind if it did.
It makes me sick to my stomach that my agency is being used to further this madness 😭
I hope he's ok he has a wife and child 😭
His wife is 8 months pregnant.
Friendly FYI: you're confusing Abrego Garcia (Salvadorian national from Maryland w wife & kids) with Khalil (Palestinian-Algerian national from Columbia University w pregnant wife). There's just so many stories like theirs; it's almost incomprehensible.
Thank you, yes sometimes one comes upon a thread midway and it is confusing.
Now I’m crying. Somehow this possibility never occurred to me. I figured they just didn’t want to admit they were wrong, didn’t want him telling his story or to give others wrongly deported a chance back in. But … he could be dead. Effing monsters.
My boyfriend’s grandmother’s cousins were murdered in death camps, and he was talking about how it’s not a huge spectacle, people just disappear and then are never seen again.
How terrible and terrifying. I am so sorry for his family and all the trauma they’ve endured.
The fear is always there, but it’s far less visceral and immediate when it comes to his grandmother’s cousins, as opposed to what his grandfather saw in the Pacific Theater, or his great-grandfather escaping the Kyiv Pogrom. It’s more haunting; His grandmother’s cousins just ceased to exist.
Plus they don’t want to get sued.
His family could absolutely still sue. His wife and child are American.
And quite frankly I don’t think Trump gives two shits about getting sued. It has been happening his whole life.
Rich people just run out the clock on this stuff then settle at the last minute when there is no other option except losing.
He doesn't care, but the rest of the administration might
CECOT is a death camp. They brag that nobody gets out alive. Garcia fled El Salvador because his life was at risk there. They won't return him because they're hiding something dire. Either he's seen too much that would bring them down, or he's already gone.
I knew it was a gulag and they bragged nobody gets out. I figured they would treat him inhumanely, but I didn’t think he could be dead in only a month’s time. If he is, that means that poor gay hairdresser is likely dead, too. Horrific.
Yeah. I thought about that too. Even ordinary prisons are brutal but that sweet guy had no defence.
Yeah, you don’t pay that much to care for people you consider the scum of the earth. If they’re not going to give you due process, they’re not going to pay thousands to house each prisoner.
Isn't this how we treated prisoners during the Iraq war? There were people held at Guantanamo long-term, without due process, because someone accused them of something. And the torture with dogs and electric shock at Abu Ghraib prison. I wonder how many people remember and acknowledge that.
It was all shameful, no doubt. I remember. There was some level of accountability eventually and wasn’t Abu Ghraib closed? This is even worse, because it is not a war situation. And there’s an admitted error without any attempt to remedy it. Their only regret is that they admitted it.
As Nayib Bukele spoke about space issues he seemed to say he had endless capacity. That only works if inmates leave.
Leave as in die?
Correct but I’ve been put I. “Jail” on SM before for even typing the word lol!
Ohh good warning, i didn't think of tha5
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Hey old curmudgeon I got your back
Thanks!
I'm trying to find my pack on here. I've got lots of fellas but mostly blue resisters now fewer about Ukraine
I’ve noticed the same thing
I worry that if he does make it back, the administration may hurt him to keep him quiet.
“I hope I’m wrong” Those words have only continued to pop up these days
Do we know what're the details of the agreement this Administration made with El Salvador? I know we are paying their government to take these men, but are they only there for a certain amount of time or did they say as long as they live? Did they never expect them to come out of that prison?
That entire planeload of passengers must be brought back for due process. Each person must be brought back.
I think he is dead, because they can’t let him come back here and tell of the horrors of what happened to him and others. I just wonder if anything will be done to this administration at all if and when they can’t produce him, thoughts?
This may be a case of "don't ask, don't tell." If the DOJ lawyers don't bother asking the Salvadoran gulag keepers where he is, they can deny knowing what's happening to him, thus dodging responsibility for his fate.
i *feel* he's still alive for whatever that is worth. doj lawyers probably didn't even try looking for him, just threw their wimpy little hands in the air.
Khashoggi…
If he gets back to the USA, the truth about that hell hole will be exposed. This is the Trump Administration dilemma. If he’s dead, it gets a lot worse.
Affirmative
I think he is dead and the US knows it.
Why are we focused on just one? Most of those guys had no records. Now they are all sitting in a foreign concentration camp unable to speak to family or legal representation. CECOT is a black hole. How do we stop the regime from sending anyone there?
Because he from El Salvador, not Venezuela, and the Trump admin have admitted that he was deported by mistake. He should be the easiest case to get overturned, which may open the door for some of the Venezuelans to be returned (which is no doubt why Trump's DOJ is fighting it).
It’s both heart wrenching and infuriating.
I would think that El Salvador might be smart enough to have taken him out of the prison and is holding him somewhere else to use him as a bargining chip. I can't imagine they have not noticed that Trump and his toadies have no idea what they are doing.
Today someone posted a google earth picture of a yard shot in El Salvador what looks to be a pile of bodies and a lot of blood. Is this Trumps concentration camp? He couldn’t build one here as we would see. Maybe that’s why they won’t return him. Makes me sick.
🙏🙏🙏
I hope the worst doesn't happen to him, but what are the consequences for those involved if God forbid it does?
Major lawsuit for damages for now. The rest will have to wait until 2029 assuming a D president
Am worried about the gay makeup artist.
We all are
I hope someone has the balls to end this entire administration
My thoughts exactly. This whole administration is made up of monsters, they all should be prosecuted, including the ringmaster, if that innocent man is dead.
Can Great Britain, France, and Germany intervene?
Now that would be meaningful - and embarrasing for this administration !
They’ve sunk so low, they are incapable of being shamed or embarrassed
You’re right, they wouldn’t care one way or the other
If the signal chat didn’t embarrass them, nothing will.
If he doesn’t make it out of El Salvador alive will there be ramifications? Doesn’t feel like it, human life is totally disposable with this sadistic Admin!
I don’t
Sadly no, I don’t think any of them are still alive. The republican regime SOLD them to another sovereign country. Dead men can’t talk😞
Yes, but not after Bukele’s visit Monday.
If not can you imagine the tv appearances and the lawsuits if they brought him back. Maybe we could trade Stephen Miller for him.😂
I don't know. I pray that he is. 🙏🦅
There's zero evidence for either option. Speculation is pointless. What we need are aggressive lawsuits.
I’m concerned he’s not alive or possibly they don’t know where he is because they don’t keep records.
I hope so but knowing what I know about super prisons in El Salvador, I doubt it.
I’ve thought that he was dead since the current regime was trying so hard to NOT bring him home. Is he now going to ignore SCOTUS?
No I don't. He's been dead for some time, probably.
That’s been confirmed.
If his family’s not convinced I’m not convinced
I don’t blame them, or you, questioning the veracity. If it were a member of my family, I’d do the same.
No.
I’m wondering that myself.