EXCLUSIVE: Democratic voters loathe partisan redistricting. But they support California doing it to counter Texas, according to a new national poll.
EXCLUSIVE: Democratic voters loathe partisan redistricting. But they support California doing it to counter Texas, according to a new national poll.
It's going to be more than California and it has to be more than California every blue state has to do this
They didn’t mind it in about seven states that have no Republican representation. Now all of a sudden, they’ve got a problem with it. Hypocrites.
Jeez I wonder why
Make America Democratic Again!
Ask yourself one question: What do you hate more, gerrymandering or Donald Trump?
Even if we hate gerrymandering we can surely understand that it makes sense to respond in kind with a provision that we will drop that practice the instant that they do
"they must respond in kind after President Donald Trump pushed Texas to boost Republicans and maintain the House majority." @Politico, Maybe the entire back story should be presented. Donald is pressuring Texas, like he did Georgia. Find him votes, except now it's find him 5 seats. It's illegal.
I don't know if it IS illegal but if its not, it should be.
When even the Supreme Court turns its back on Voting Rights, there isn’t any other choice. Not everyone has a license plate.
I guess we should be pleased he has a license plate. Not sure what else he uses it for. Actually don't think it can be used for eligibility to vote but maybe he's working on that.
True
Yep.
Democrats hate partisan districting? LOL - I’ve done it for years. Why did 40% Of Massachusetts vote for Trump, but they is not one Republican congressman? what about Illinois?? Never seen a more gerrymandered state. Stop playing the victim of a crime u committed already.
Of course we loathe it but This Is War.
stupid comment.. I hate guns, but if I needed to defend myself and my family I'd use one. Is that somehow wrong?
Texas started the fuckery.
Duh! We want it to be fair because fairness is freedom. And it isn't fair when TX discounts its citizens, so we're going to make it just by counting them somewhere else.
Do this in every blue state. I'm fucking tired of this rule following. Fight fire with fire and stand up and fight.
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California has been gerrymandered to the max already. They’ll achieve little.
Theyll get five seats complying with the VRA and could get 9 without complying. Computers are much better at this than you.
They’ll get mostly left leaning districts, not string democratic strongholds. As I’ve said they’ve already rigged 7 extra seats via gerrymandering that would otherwise be Republican. I don’t have skin in the game and don’t even live in the US. I don’t have an agenda or a “side”.
I think the democratic governors need to take it a step further. And remove all registered republican voters from their registration list.. Why not? That's what they're doing to us. Democrats🤔
Damn right we do! And fuck off Politico
Keeping in mind that the GOP has devolved into a cult of personality with negative commitment to democracy, and is actively engaged in destroying our nation... SO... of course, this is necessary.
What else are they meant to do, watch the country fall to partisanship in favor the side with no morals? Holding onto our ideals as our country burns will do nothing for us. We must swing low as well.
Damn Politico, what the hell has happened to you over the last year? Democrats hate gerrymandering and the dilution of the non-white vote. If a map needs to be redistrict to give all people equal voting power, so be it. Maps SHOULD be redrawn for that reason.
We hate gerrymandering because we want things to be fair. What Texas is doing makes things unfair. Gerrymandering isn't the principle, fairness is.
We’re going to have to get over it.
Why do the DEMS love Trumpanzees walking all over them!
If they loathe it, than why is every single blue stage gerry mandered to the maximum already
And in IL, MA, WA, OR, VT, NY, NH, MN and any other state they have a majority in the legislature.
Ya damn right we are. We need more democratic states displaying their devotion to our democracy. I'm so frustrated with the dems. Why are they such weenies?
Always reactionary, always lukewarm, always selfish and cowardly. Those fucking scumbags will only acknowledge what's happening when the noose is at THEIR necks. They deserve the shithole they're currently in.
Look at the raw vote totals from those states and tell me how far off it is from those percents.
So U admit it is off.
Did you make up those pcts while you sit in your mom's basement trying to think of ways to own the libs online? Have you convinced yourself you don't sound like a total imbecile? CT is only around 20% Rep and has 5 districts, so they are naturally distributed. More Unaffiliated voters than party
If they want to cheat. Fuck em. Lets fight fire with….
MA: 36% Republican, 0 seats CT: 42% Republican, 0 seats ME: 46% Republican, 0 seats NM: 46% Republican, 0 seats NH: 48% Republican, 0 seats RI: 42% Republican, 0 seats VT: 32% Republican, 0 seats HI: 38% Republican, 0 seats DE: 42% Republican, 0 seats
You mean the places with 2 or 3 seats total?
Texas is only the first, many more are to come....... Dem states have no choice now, but to fight back
Democrats did not choose to start the fight...But should be happy to finish it
It's nice to see some actual counterpunching instead of whatever Jeffries & Schumer are doing. Even if it turns out to just be attempted counterpunching, it's still worlds better than we've seen this year.
Aaaand Politico shows its true colors.
They have lurched to the right💯🤮
Redistricting is not our fight now. Saving democracy is our fight now! We won't be able to save democracy unless we redistrict to stop the tyranny of the minority.
Damn straight I support it
What we support is not being bulldozed by rabid fascists who are out to kill American democracy.
CA: 38% Republican, only 9 of 52 seats (20.9%) IL: 44% Republican, only 3 of 17 seats (17.6%) NY: 43% Republican, only 7 of 26 seats (26.9%) MD: 34% Republican, only 1 of 8 seats (12.5%) NJ: 46% Republican, only 3 of 12 seats (25%) OR: 41% Republican, only 1 of 6 seats (16.7%)
Cry more bot
Cool story now show the Bible belt states statistics. Oh right that would defeat your argument.
Here’s one Bible Belt example. AR: 34% Democratic, 0 of 4 congressional seats (%0) Little Rock is split into 3 districts and diluted among large rural swaths of the state. Our reps don’t even respond when we contact them, because they know they don’t have to.
I live in a state that’s similar.
FFS, what else are they supposed to do.. just accept the repulsicons are going to win unfairly, forever?
We have to use all tools possible to prevent authoritarianism in our country.
European Spanish: rough in expression, burning when telling that truth the powerful won't listen to :"De puta a puta, taconazo"
They are finally waking up and fighting fire with fire. He just lit a firestorm for Dems to get behind.
the american voting system just sucks.
Oh my don't cry.
have to fight back..no other choice !
You can beat an asshole at his own game , vote for a republican to fuck your self.
You beat evil where it is on its battlefield and on its terms.
What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander, guys.
EXCLUSIVE: Voters loathe violence. But they support punching rapist to prevent rape, according to a new poll.
Really? Trying to point out hypocrisy when it is the Dems being pushed into a corner?
The "democrats" let themselves be pushed into a corner because of cowardice, selfishness and greed.
I feel like you felt like you needed a list, when really you were right with cowardice and less right the more you added. Democrats problem is cowardice and ego. Ego because they like to claim they are taking the high road, when they are really just allowing themselves to be railroaded.
You're kinda correct, yeah. The initial version was only going to say "cowardice" because that's the public-facing symptom. But then I started to think about all the shit they've been pulling off for decades and decided to add those extra two. IMHO, democrats are republicans with cheap perfume.
That's what the media has become
Because the media was never actually liberal biased...
Articles like this say things like this now to lure angry readers like you in to read them, then say exactly the things you want them to say to explain why... if you read them.
Jokes on you Lyle C Briggs, I'm just out here responding to social media posts.
Angry, may not be the right adjective here.
I mean it has been liberal based. The problem is that liberalism is a right wing policy
Libs are right wingers
Yeah, you can act like you are making some kind of cohesive point, but we don't have to pretend with you. That statement with no context makes zero sense and I'm left assuming you are a bot or a troll
The point was that the news is liberal. It has always been right wing because liberalism is a right wing ideology. Think what you want
Yes, I can think what I want. I did a quick search to see if I can find anything to make what you said make sense and anything I found puts those two ideologies in opposition of each other. So the onus is on you to explain it and you won't win anyone over with: "trust me bro"
i would be ok to see the rep in my district go.
Fire for Fire
Why poll anyone outside of California? The ballot initiative is +20 here, no offense to the 49 other states, but it doesn’t matter what non-residents think.
Could it matter because we might want other blue states to respond with similar proposals if other red states follow Texas’ lead?
Sure, I get that, and I hope others do the same, but are other states waiting to see how the polling goes in California? There are county and state parties for a reason and I sure hope blue state constituents are giving them an earful.
I hope so, too. I think doing the polling across the widest swath of the Democratic population was a strategy move: it removes the ability for anyone (but primarily MAGA) to say “yeah, but that’s California… what do you expect?”
Good luck, hope your state does the right thing. 👍
What this tells me is that Democrats generally support fairness in elections and only oppose it because fairness is being abused. I am not a Democrat but that is reason to support them in this most recent spat.
I hope Pritzker is next.
Yep
Good. It’s simply to make sure EVERYONE has fair representation
Of course I loathe it! But we must counter and where is @NYS and all other Dems governors
Republicans can only win by cheating.No more playing by the rules, because there are none with this lawless administration. We won't let them destroy Democracy.
Giving someone a taste of their own medicine is usually a good thing
Trump is getting away with every thing out. Country is t all probability lost it ducky ee are s crew
Aaaaargh! I am begging media outlets that want to be taken seriously to STOP WITH THE LOADED WORDS AND PHRASING. Democrats can loathe partisan districting AND support a targeted response to partisan redistricting. Politico accuses them of lying by using "despite claims of." Just stop, damn it!!
And pray tell, idiots at Politico, was there a precipitating event, maybe somewhere in Texas or something, that Democrats are responding to, to protect our existence?!
True, Dems don’t like gerrymandering, but we cannot disarm. Not this time. Not with the republic at stake. Time to start punching the bully in the face, it’s all they understand.
What else were they supposed to do? Dems need to stop being so pusillanimous and diffident and start playing dirty like these racist Republicans, after all playing dirty always works for Republicans.
“A person claiming to hate violence defends themselves from an attacker…more at 11”
Taste of their own rancid medicine. 🖕🏽
You chose your weapon according to what your opponent brings! Dirty please, filthy dirty. That’s all they will bring
America is going downhill... Trump is destroying the country
Not just California. All blue states. The time for action is now. We need to demonstrate we've done everything we can to protect our democracy without violence.
Most blue states legislated themselves into a corner made of hastey self-righteousness.
Don't confuse doing what's right with doing what's self-righteous.
Look where "doing what's right" got you, you coward piece of shit.
There is no "right". There is only how the game is currently being played by the players. It was hasty/self-righteous because it was something they unnecessarily did to themselves, without foresight. Also, your bw vision of reality betrays your naiveté/self-righteousness at your own expense.
Why do people always gotta use “personal” slurs against other people who have the right to express a slightly different opinion? One can disagree on substance without the personal diss. The attacks against others on this platform rival those on X.
Slurs?
These are your words, “Also, your bw vision of reality betrays your naiveté/self-righteousness at your own expense.” Not at all complimentary, eh? As previously stated, it’s a shame people just cannot discuss the issues without getting subjectively snarky. Utterly unnecessary and derogatory, no?
A statement was said and I critiqued the statement as held, snowflake. Haven’t you heard? Good vibes only causes cancer in millenials.
Often it’s from people who are insecure. MAGA rife with insecure people.
MA: 36% Republican, 0 seats CT: 42% Republican, 0 seats ME: 46% Republican, 0 seats NM: 46% Republican, 0 seats NH: 48% Republican, 0 seats RI: 42% Republican, 0 seats VT: 32% Republican, 0 seats HI: 38% Republican, 0 seats DE: 42% Republican, 0 seats
Because they are potentially not all gathered around each other, the %s mean nothing.
Californias the only state that can functionally do it before the midterms
This is stupid. Both parties have history stacking the deck. Just fucking do it and screw off with making it a moral issue
I 100% support it. Take the gloves off!
This is the fight of our lives for “truth, justice, and the American way” - Superman
If one party to a contract violates the terms of that contract, the other party is immediately released from those terms. Systems of governments are contracts.
This is a fight for our democracy... for our very country. Please punch first, last and hardest. you might not remember the civil war - but it was like this.
We don’t have a choice. Either we counter MAGA’s unconstitutional gerrymandering or we go to war. 🤷♂️🤦♂️
CA: 38% Republican, only 9 of 52 seats (20.9%) IL: 44% Republican, only 3 of 17 seats (17.6%) NY: 43% Republican, only 7 of 26 seats (26.9%) MD: 34% Republican, only 1 of 8 seats (12.5%) NJ: 46% Republican, only 3 of 12 seats (25%) OR: 41% Republican, only 1 of 6 seats (16.7%)
Did they specify which side they loathe doing it?
Go Go GO!
Shifting as we need to shift.
Damn right! This Democrat urges the Democratic Party to use the exact same tools the cheating Republicans are using
It's not that I back the redistricting to win elections, I simply back fighting cheating, lying, loser Trump with equal weapons. Trump owns Congress & the Supreme Court, so really I see no other way to save our democracy than to play by the same rules as Trump.
They do not loathe it. They see it as a tool. And they have failed to use it in the past to their detriment. The Dems support ANYTHING that will stop the fascism in this country.
Object permanence is really gonna blow your fucking mind when you finally figure it out.
In an ideal world both party’s would agree to end partisan gerrymandering but Republicans will never agree to that. Democrats cannot afford to unilaterally disarm.
Scotus dropped a large part of voter civil rights act a few years back. They said it was no longer needed because racism is over( basically) Then all the red states immediately started passing voter laws that would have been illegal. The media completely silent on this
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We have been SCREAMING our support, Politico. Ugh, I used to follow you.
If they played by the rules this would not be an issue. Wait until new census and draw redistricting districts then. Trump told texas to get 5 seats to rig election, he said that. If dems have to act it’s fine with me, play by the rules would not be problem.
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Good! Every person with a beating heart in their chest and a functioning brain, should support this.
I mean at some point we just can’t lay down and take it because we’re the better people that clearly isn’t working
Which means they DON'T loathe redistricting. They loathe when Republicans do it. (And no one wants to talk about the fact that Democrats have been engaged in partisan redistricting for decades.)
So because of that, the Dems are now just supposed to sit back and let the degenerates on the Right blatantly make up the rules at any time, whenever they feel they want to suit themselves. Got it.
That’s what the Democrats do when they’re in control. Both sides need to stop doing this, but let’s be honest about it. Both sides hate it when the other side does it, but when it’s their turn they do the same thing with gusto and a lot of posturing that THEY are doing the principled thing.
The problem with that line of thought is that my state wouldn’t even be considering doing this until the next census year if Texas wasn’t acting like N. Korea and throwing out the existing rule book at Trump’s request. At least WE get to vote on it. They don’t.
The original story says Dems are upset about what’s happening in Texas but they’re just fine with it happening in California. So it’s not that redistricting is a problem…REPUBLICAN redistricting is a problem.
Democrats have tried to make gerrymandering illegal. Every Republican voted against it. You can't fight fire with disapproving looks.
Democrats love to make gerrymandering illegal when Republicans try to re-gerrymander what Democrats gerrymandered last time.
That doesn't even make sense
Both parties gerrymander, and both sides are infuriated when the other side does it. It goes back and forth. Wash, rinse, repeat.
If Democrats REALLY hated gerrymandering they would be working hammer and tongs to stop it in Texas. Instead, it's "We'll gerrymander in California! That'll show 'em!" So it's not about "gerrymandering." It's about "Republican gerrymandering."
And how exactly do you expect them to stop it in Texas? Make it illegal? Tried that, Republicans blocked it.
Okay, then they lose. That's politics. Work harder next time. But don't tell me that gerrymandering is evil unless YOU do it...then it's okay. If you want it as an arrow in your quiver, great! But don't tell me it's pure evil and then use it yourself.
I live in Minnesota. The idea that Texas Republicans will have such undue influence on MY life is infuriating. Whatever defense is necessary and FLIP whatever swing districts remain.
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When it means countering their cheating, not BECAUSE they are Republicans. Phrasing matters.
Damn right!! I hope the chaos that trump and Abbott have created, cause federal legislation that makes it illegal and impossible to redraw maps in the middle of a census. Also, mandating all states have independent commissions that draw maps for now on.
Right wing rag uses old trope trying to make Dems have cognitive dissonance. 🖕 The problem with one side breaking laws and norms is that they are Teaching Everybody Else to do it too. Dems held out for a long time, but you should read history about how much Dem can jury-rig a system. Meh. Too bad.🙄
Congress needs to get off their asses, grow a back bone, and write a law stating that districts should be drawn by an independent group of civilian retirees. I'm a retired data analyst and always available. And, they need to make this law veto-proof. Gerrymandering needs to STOP!
It would take a Constitutional Amendment for Congress to be able to tell states how to draw districts, which isn't going to happen. Yes, it should happen. But it never will.
Gee, I never looked at it that way.
@governorwhitmer.bsky.social
Because doing nothing or not doing enough is unacceptable.
DO IT!!!
GET A MOVE ON BLUE STATES! The clock is ticking!
Nope,finally someone trying to defeat ,the cheeto faced, rapist, felon, bankrupt, lying ,piece of shit king.
You can't play by rules that the other side won't follow.
GOP is trying to take away peoples right to representation. Gots to fight that BS.
I know nuance doesn’t get the clicks you want @politico.com, but this is a shitty framing of the situation.
Dems are just amazed they actually have found an effective tool to fight back against at gop fascism
You fight the war you're in not the one you prefer.
overheard Also amen
We loathe it when used as a weapon against us. We encourage using it as a weapon against those that used it as a weapon against us, first. This isn’t that complicated…
turns out we loathe fascist takeover more
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Congressional Dems put up a vote to ban gerrymandering nationwide in EVERY state. ALL Dems voted for it and ZERO deplorable scum did! Period, end of story! The Dems now have NO choice but to counter TX and no doubt FL soon and do the same to counter this assault! Have to fight fire with fire!
Newsom is retarded.
Disingenuous headline.
They don't hate it that much, because they've put up with it for decades from Reps.
What's good for the goose is good for the gander. TX set the precedent with the weak excuse of 'we got more people that arrived'. Overall, CA sees that TX means to create more voting control over all of Congress at the sacrifice of CA. CA is only following suit to maintain parity.
California is more lopsided right now is in representation that Texas is. People seem to ignore that
You can hate something and still understand that in times of distress it becomes necessary. When an enemy attempts to destroy our democracy, we do what’s needed, not what’s liked.
Exactly. We’re fighting pedophile Nazis for fuck’s sake. Every single option should be on the table.
Exactly. Do we want to live under a dictatorship while we hang ourselves by our principles?! There comes a point where it’s only logical to fight fire with fire.
Fight fire with fire. End the republican nightmare.
If the Nazis lose the house and senate , there’s a good chance they’re all going to jail. So they will do ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING to keep it. So we must be prepared to respond with anything and everything. The death of our country is the stakes.
Accurate. But if Trump is going to cheat in a way that Dems can also cheat, gloves are off. Time for Dems to fight fire with fire. No more going high when they go low.
Gotta do something!!! If they are being down right dirty, Dems MUST DO IT TOO!!!
Of course. Being able to count is a definite advantage.
I think every blue state should join California in gerrymandering for maximum effect.
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It’s easy to moralize about tactics when you aren’t in a street fight
Tit for tat I am tired of tit for tat. Catholic SHAM Court is a tit for tat , Congress is definitely tit for tat. Trump is an old stretched tit for taaaaat.( Sorry for dig, I am old too,so i am entitled, per age)
Not coming to a gunfight with a knife. You have to be an idiot to present the argument the way that you did.
That woman has the best legs
Just get rid of districts altogether. This is such BS. Each state can have a number of representatives based on their population, and those reps need to work together to represent the entire state.
How do you choose the number of centrist-policy representatives, the number of bat-shit crazy representatives? Currently, a politician represents a district: He does that, theoretically, by living in that district, by having the same principles and priorities as the voters, by meeting the voters.
The candidates publish their views, priorities, and QUALIFICATIONS. People then vote for who they like. Just because x number of people live in a district, doesn't mean they all align with the district rep. Talk is cheap. Accomplishments and actions matter.
In addition, when you represent your whole state, you should have the brains and compassion to be able advocate for both city and rural residents.
A NY appeals court just threw out the $500M penalty against Trump in Letitia James civil case, a huge loss for Democrats. Democrats think they're always right, like about redistricting. They're going find out they're not.
The fact that you think this is a "loss for Democrats" tells the intelligent reader everything they need to know about you. But keep supporting a convicted rapist and felon if that makes you feel good.
Actually he's still guilty of the crimes, so no, it isn't a loss. He's still the felon we know he is. He'll still get fined, and it'll still be a substantial sum. I don't know how you can claim any sort of victory from that and keep a straight face.
None Of That Makes You Or Your False Idols Right.
Let's go California!!! Hopefully, other Blue States will follow your lead.
Yes, I live in CA. I voted to establish and support the current Commission but these are unusual times. The platitudes have to be put aside and the fucking gloves be off! It's a war against a dictator and fascism.
Question: What is stopping a second red state redistricting to gain five gop seats, and then a blue state doing the same thing. What happens when we run out of blue states?