ICE: Following orders is not a viable excuse. What you are doing is wrong. You know it. And eventually, there will be a price to pay. Remember, you could make different decisions.
ICE: Following orders is not a viable excuse. What you are doing is wrong. You know it. And eventually, there will be a price to pay. Remember, you could make different decisions.
What the hell are they taught? How about what their Oath really means? Did they not go to Sunday School? Taught any history? It's infuriating!
Go for it. An outrage. Sooner or later they are going to wind up in a dangerous situation.
🤬The Resistance will win in the end, but how many injustices and broken hearts before we win? DON'T FEED THE OLIGARCHS
I AM READING THIS HERE, last night to be exact…NOTHING ABOUT THIS ON THE NEWS…that was the plan, the reason for FOX, this is bigger than doncon, remove him, start removing these Nazi, asap, their years of planning put them miles ahead, catching up needs to be quick “before” it’s to late is NOW
Do women get sent to awl Salvador too?
The 1st plane had women & children but the prison sent them back…?
terrorizing the family and loved ones of our service members is probably a bad idea. it took ten years after salazar’s death for the portuguese army to decide they had enough, trump is gonna speed run a carnation revolution and shatter that time
Unacceptable. ICE are the new brownshirts
So wrong!! Cruelty and threats leading to fear is what they want. Then absolute obedience. ICC?
How is ICE getting into the bases? Did the command structure authorize their entry? If yes, did command know these abductions were going to happen?
Is that why cult leader Agent Orange fired the previous CG chief to appoint one of his own thought process image & likeness? To go into their base housing & pick up their intended deportees? Is that why other service chiefs were fired? Incl. new chairman of JCS? Frankly, it’s an American disgrace!
Thank you, that was my initial question. Who tf let them in???
Are they ICE or trump’s own militias?
The military is mostly pro-MAGA. ICE must have simply showed up and the commanders gave them free rein knowing that there would be no consequences.
USCG isn't under DoD and hasn't been for a long time. They've been getting fucked out of tricare since they got moved under DHS. They're essentially sister agencies under the same departmental umbrella. That's how.
Whoopsie, slight correction—things have indeed changed since the 2010's. So, they do get Tricare now, but they're still under DHS.
I’m guessing ICE is being tipped off on who to grab by maga tip offs. Ya know, like maga teachers tipping off their own grade school students.
As a former military spouse, base housing is often located off base. It is housing owned by the military. It’s easier to have it off base to make the base safer. Also visitors are not allowed on base without a special pass. Families often have civilian visitors.
Vast majority - built in 60s and 70s - thank Senator Capehart - off base because of space issues. Also solved security issues.
This is a good question. They had to pass through a TCP gate to get in. Who authorized this?
The morale hit from this will be significant. Time to change the standing orders.
Exactly. Service members' morale dives when they don't get *mail*. This will make them revolt.
Yes, fight the REAL enemy
The guards. ICE are Federal law enforcement.
They are cosplayers in Amazon battle rattle at best, gestapo at worst. "Federal law enforcement" would not need to show up in masks, civvie clothes, and an unmarked vehicle, without ID. The MPs should not have let them on the base. They should have drawn down & turned that van into a 3,000lb flute.
I was wondering the same thing when I heard about Aditya Wahyu Harsono: If ICE turn up at your workplace looking scary and authoritative, and attempt to enlist your complicity in kidnapping your coworker, how many of us would know how to resist /what our rights are? They rely on us all not knowing.
This is exactly what I wanna know.
Someone needs to skin the MPs on that base ass to glory, and find out what the fuck they were thinking. Speaking as a former MP, the MP Corps motto is Assist Protect Defend, not Collaborate Collude Kidnap.
JAG investigation incoming...
There is no effective JAG any longer.
Ah. Right. It's hard to absorb...
I was a military kid and I'm very familiar with MP's and you are absolutely correct!
This sh*t is ridiculous! I cannot wait for the Sotomayor Commission when it convenes in 2029!
someone post this in r/military
MAGA does love Rambo…
Who the fuck allowed them through the main gate?
Not the right question unfortunately.
I don't know but I wonder why they didn't give the name of the base. I didn't even think they lived on base.
Pete
Kegbreath? Courtesy of my friend @janehoodless.bsky.social
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Wow. #JFC🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
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They are out of control. This is insane.
Project 2025 was published widely. People didn’t believe it would come true. Here we are.
It's still available. They gave us easy access to the blueprints and we are still shocked. Why aren't we using the map they gave us to attack from the front? We could be ahead of it.
That’s an excellent point. @aoc.bsky.social @sanders.senate.gov @repjasmine.bsky.social @raskin.house.gov @schiff.senate.gov
How did they get on base?
This is horrible. I cannot hate this administration any more than I do already, now it's just a flat line of disgust mixed with rage. 🙏for all our fellow individuals, like the constitution says provides certain rights and protections to all individuals within its jurisdiction, not just citizen. 🙏
Im scared. I asked my son to carry his passport on his person. We do not “look white.” He remarked that he might lose it..
Get a passport card. It fits n ur wallet
Good idea. Here is how to get one passportinfo.com/passport-card/
What kind of conversations do I have to have with MY CHILD? In the USA. HUGELY REMINISCENT of Wienmar Germany. They’ll be starving the prisoners in El Salvador next. It’s a slave camp
They make passport cards, the size of a driver’s license. Much easier
Visas are being revoked without telling the person. They are using this method to detain them and deport.
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Resisters protest non-stop the entire week before every courthouse in the nation because of the recent actions the FBI took against a sitting judge! And, having been deporting. Then 5/1/25 participate in the nationwide General Strike. We must shut down this country until the orange plague resigns!
it seems like, people should be working at at 100%, we should be be like, 50% at most? idk? i'm not a strikologist. not even strike. wartime? revolutiontime?
Im sure the Coast Guard is totally cool with this 🙃
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Was it in fact ICE or paramilitaries working for/posing as ICE?
Not that it makes a difference in the violation of constitutional rights in this case, but we need to know if this is also happening and if that has anything to do with the impunity with which they are acting
Ab-so-frikkin-lutely there ia a great distinction and we ought to know. 🧢
And we still don’t know who has ICE employed to do this?
We really need to start figuring this out and getting photos/videos of these monsters to their loved ones and communities. We need to make them as uncomfortable in their beds at night as they are making others.
Who TF allowed ICE on base???
Most bases are open. Anybody can drive in. They only secure the secure parts.
Maybe certain areas of off-base housing, but not the actual base.
Ask your self this question: Who is the Secretary of Defense?
Did you serve?
Yup. The NAZIs in the #NAZICoup all stick together on the scapegoat group persecutions.
Military bases play nonstop Fox News. What else do you expect?
I expect people to understand that Fox 'News" does not dictate military security protocol.
It would be rational to expect that.
CG families don't generally live "on base." They're usually housed near base in provided housing.
Federal LEOs are always allowed on U.S. military bases unless it’s a restricted area. Such as DIA or NSA
This.
Who do you think? You think the military gives a fuck?
There is a protocol in allowing persons on base. Failure to follow protocol could result in an Article 15 or other punitive measures.
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I think that some people in the military do and they are smart enough to keep quiet about it, right now. Thus, the Hegseth purge.
yep i know those guys are the ones plotting
They will be next, have they not read the poem?
Alabama, Iowa, Missouri, Wisconsin, Indiana, NY, Maine, Kentucky, Virginia, West Virginia, Georgia, Arizona, Nebraska, Montana, Idaho, Utah, South Carolina, North Carolina, Kansas, Arkansas Wyoming, Louisiana, Texas, Minnesota, Michigan, Florida, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Massachusetts, California
@schiff.senate.gov @padilla.senate.gov As your constituent, PLEASE INVESTIGATE THIS!!! SPOTLIGHT IT!!
I could swear most of the sevixe which includes the coast guard voted for this... So while it is too bad, I think it best we focus on true victims over the suffering of groups that chose this.
I didn't think they could do that. Sounds false.
If ture then undoubtedly there are orders from Hegseth to stand down and allow it, and base commanders following that order. There ought to be a paper trail.
Coast Guard works for Noem (DHS), not Hegseth
Army Navy Air Force Marines Coast Guard, they moved it AGAIN?! WTF, the CG has had more masters over time, just leave it with fucking DoD, not that it matters much with this administration. Thanks for the heads up did not know they moved it again.
Yup, Coast Guard is 'the hard nucleus about which the navy forms in time of war' but in peacetime, was under Treasury for most of its history, then moved to DoT when they created that, then DHS. Always, the poor red headed stepchild when it comes to budgets. Doubt that'd be any better in DoD.
There was not DHS when I was in uniform
Is there any source for this outside of a Facebook post? The Google machine returns 0 results on this.
Maybe they're looking for Noem's purse. trygvehammer.substack.com/p/national-i...
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Drama Queen Cunt. 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
That’s awful
ICE+CBP is a cancer on American society. Defund the shit out of it.
It’s criminal and we should all be calling in le when we see it “unmarked armed people are kidnapping a person” let the cops shoot it with each other.
The military should step in and stop this insanity
Let's hope it's not true. But I wouldn't be surprised if it was.
Every. Single. American. I know American people are passionate about their army, navy, airforce etc., but every person affiliated in any military initiative should walk out, including those protecting #PresidentBoneSpurs. Every. Single. One. This is wrong. Who is next? Unite, like your name says.
WTF?
This Nazi regime must be brought down at any cost!
Welcome to Trumps Fascist America!
Demoralizing the US military (with Kegseth's preening, reckless incompetence, and now in this horrific, personal way) sounds like something a Russian operative would do.
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My thoughts exactly.
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He claims to be a “real man” and a warrior but builds a make-up studio in the pentagon. Sounds more like a pretty, pretty princess to me.
He NEEDS his glam squad when he goes on TV, though.
Nothing destroys the morale of the military faster, almost as if someone wanted to do that.
Yup. As if “ someone” wanted…are there dots to be connected?
They operate with impunity and as if they have immunity from the law/regulations. It gets them a long way!
Unfortunately for service members living in base housing, they are easy pickings since the 4th Amendment takes a back seat if the powers that be decide they want in to your house. I imagine ICE just figured this out, and everyone should be worried
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Pat attention
There is no low.
Is it just me or… does anyone else think they are targeting women disproportionately?
Saw the other day a Mum was kidnapped by ICE on the way to pick up her kids from school. Hubby only found out when school called to say that Mum hadn’t shown up. How sick is that?
😢 it is very sick
Very intentional. For a party so preoccupied by declining birth rates, their population concerns are myopically disengaged by their racist ‘aesthetic’ priorities. Navel-gazing bigotry.
Its the same with the kids in cages, they want to scare people and the do the worst thing to do it, monsters monstering.
Force labor of women was just the start...they are the courage in the country.
You would think the repeated actions of ICE would be reined in by the President, when things have gotten so far out of control & publicized so widely. The only conclusion I can come to that makes any kind of sense is that the strategy is "shock and awe" to get immigrants to self-deport. Cruel.
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Okay - Here we go. Trump’s Gestapo has now openly and publicly violated an armed member of the US military. At first I was thinking that this might lower his morale for doing his job, but in fact, this could actually be the BEGINNING of the Civil War.
Holy shit!!!
How do we stop this??? Plainclothes “officers” without badges are just snatching people from their homes!
Organize neighborhood watches and mob these SS fuckers when they try. We outnumber these Nazi bastards.
My guess is this is trumps grotesque show out, that he owns the military and their families. And that they had better do what he asks. There is no better way to prove the disgusting authoritarian nature of Trump than to show how truly depraved they he is. If separating children wasn’t enough.
So no paperwork? No discussion? Just come in and seizes a person?
Uh. Like yeah. It’s real.
Going after all those rapists and murderers. 😡
This is disgustingly on point for this administration
Why? Is service a shield that protects your spouse from the rest of society? 2/3 of Americans didn't vote against this. If America doesn't want this it has yet to say so.
ICE has lost its collective mine
Wow. None of this is OK. None of this is normal.
This is why Trump has not and will not get the military behind him.
yep pretty much
The USA is a terrible place to live at the moment.
Details needed.
Wow!
We need a name and a face (better yet photos) of this military spouse to help build awareness, and to carry at rallies/protests. A nameless spouse taken by the SS is horrible, but frankly's not going to get a lot of traction. Kilmar Garcia is a name with staying power because it's a name.
Gestapo
They have no bottom!!!
Sounds believable to me.
This is horrible. Stand up and RESIST
It doesn’t sound like Trump learned a damn thing the last time around.
I'm afraid the machine that operates him did learn a few things.
Ridiculous
I knew this would happen. When I joined the army - in Basic Combat Training - we were full up of immigrant soldiers, applying for citizenship via service. Some of them had spouses. ICE needs to be abolished, when we end this.
ICE needs to be disbanded and rebuilt from the ground up. Way too many thugs and racists in its ranks and leadership. CBP too!
why the fuck would you want to rebuild the gestapo?
it sure as fuck wasn't ICE, so again, why do you want to rebuild ICE?
you know that ICE has existed for just over 20 years, right? They're not necessary and only bootlickers think otherwise.
Maybe get your head out of your behind and read, unless you also tacitly support sex traffickers now.
what does nazi dick taste like?
Abolished. Not rebuilt.
Why would we need to rebuild it? We don’t need it.
Trump has Put a bully & a thug & a racist in charge of Ice. Homan is also a sadist who enjoys the cruelty and pain he can Inflict on immigrants or anyone else he chooses to punish with his authority.
He’s also put a bully and thug in charge of the military too (probably racist, but I don’t have the receipts)
You have got Gestapo in US now.
no, it needs to be abolished
Sorry, while I totally understand the animus, I am not "ACAB" and never will be.
Ice is a branch of HSI. They closed branches of government departments all the time they can abolish ice without getting rid of HSI. Do we need HSI in some ways yes but not ice we don't need that part of it.
This- ICE is a gestapo that needs to go away and never darken these free shores, again.
FYI, ICE is the name of the agency. HSI is it's main investigative arm. ERO deals with deportation and removals. Get your facts straight, please.
I don't care if they are DOD under GSA over FBI over SAG - They're illegally detaining and imprisoning Americans and there MUST BE HELL TO PAY FOR IT. Eat all the shit you want defending them, we don't need them. No matter what you say.
Is that your sock puppet lol?
I don't have a sock puppet. You're being ratio-ed on the internet because your ideas about keeping ICE are bad ideas. Deal with it.
Homeland Security Investigations is not the name of any government agency. I know MAGA has an aversion to facts, but it seems like their far-left counterparts might be suffering w/a similar affliction too.
ICE was established in 2003. The US existed for 227 years without ICE. We can do without it. Also, yes ACAB.
Let me put it in simple English then: I am not a leftist.
Neither am I - but ICE is a criminal organization doing NAZI shit. The move is to "ice" them and not have them around anymore. That's the move. Why would anybody say otherwise, if they didn't work for ICE?
No shit!
You seem to be dense. ICE is not your friend. ICE does not serve a legitimate purpose. ICE doesn't give a shit about your political leaning.
The irony of preaching this to a pro-FBI account, when ICE has been the Bureau's biggest JTTF partner for years. Look up HSI, genius.
why do you have to be a leftist to want to get rid of the secret police whose sole job is blackbagging brown people and people who aren't native english speakers.
Why
Holy shit
I thought marriage gave one residency?
It makes you eligible for a Green Card, which is lawful permanent residence and then eligible for citizenship through naturalization.
Dude if i was enlisted & you came onto military housing to take my spouse we would be going to fucking war with ourselves on that base. Real shit.
& that would go double for any of my squads wives. Family is family, u dont fuck with that
It's time to declare war on ICE. Question, do they use Signal chat like the DOJ?
Yep.
@alt-text.bsky.social
ICE is Trumusk’s Gestapo/SS! He and the GQP accused President Biden of weaponizing the DOJ! If that was true, then Trumusk is nuclear weaponizing it!
www.zdnet.com/article/how-...
Time to start using alt like disabled people are allowed
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It is surreal what is happening. I’m currently traveling abroad & will be returning home next Friday. One of the countries I visited was Denmark, but I’ll be leaving from Finland. I was born in the USA. I’m wondering when they will start picking up folks who are natural born citizens.
They already did that: apnews.com/article/us-c...
They already have.
Well they have already, young men with “Hispanic-sounding” last names. In one case a U.S. citizen was arrested in Florida for being in the country illegally even after his mom showed a judge her son’s U.S. birth certificate and the judge dismissed charges. ICE had him for an additional 48 hrs.
It has already started, if you count children, First Nations, and Latinos. But all they have to do is accuse you and whisk you away. If everyone doesn't get due process, then you have no guarantees. Please go to war on this point.
I agree. Watching from afar it’s horrifying to see the country devolve into a state where even paying lip service to the Constitution is slipping. Not even a pretense, just threats & instilling fear. Jim Acosta was right: Don’t give into the lies. Don’t give into the fear.
They're working on ending birthright citizenship and the supreme court has taken up the case as an extraordinary hearing in may. So my guess is it'll be cleared by late May and first generation Americans will start disappearing that day.
Is he going to make that retroactive. I’m not a 1st generation anything - but I wouldn’t mind if I was deported back to Switzerland🇨🇭or Scotland.
You'd be lucky to be deported back to either Switzerland or Scotland. Airfare courtesy of the Dumpster.
There's no country that will recognize a US born person as theirs. We'll be enslaved in a foreign gulag.
Foreign? You don't think they'll have any domestic ones?
...if we do, they won't stand long.
Domestic could be far north of Alaska, or an island territory.
How much money would you have to pay a us citizen to incarcerate their own? How expensive would it be to secure such a facility on us soul? It is easier and cheaper to outsource.
It's certainly cheaper, but I think we're well aware that there are a lot of US citizens who consider people with accents and different skin tones to be less human, even if they're also citizens.
Outsourcing would still be cheaper with less overhead.
Should apply to Rubio Cruz and all but 1 Trump kid
If applied consistently and logically. But I think everyone knows it wouldn't be, because it's not intended to be.
Doesn't look like they're waiting. www.politico.com/news/2025/04...
They are sitting children I courtrooms and asking them to defend themselves. No lawyer, no Child Protective Services.
This happened in the IQ47 v.1 regimen. Unconscionable. The cruelty is the point. I weep for those harmed. I’m so angry that any of this is perpetrated in my name. The folding, spindling & mutilating the rule of law to give color to legitimate action is a horror show. No one is coming to save us.
So Baron needs to go. Trumps mother Mary Ann was born in Scotland and Melanie was born in Slovenia.
You think they'll apply it consistently or fairly? First thing they'll do is put a price tag on citizenship.
Yes, I know.
That's disgusting and goes against what this country is supposed to stand for. If you're born in this country, you're a citizen, period!
So much for that pesky 14th Amendment, amirite?!
As I understand it, Trump's flaky argument is that the 14th amendment was unconstitutional. Whether it's applied retroactively... 🤷♂️ I'm not going to attempt to guess what they will try. www.npr.org/2025/04/17/g...
Imagine saying the constitution is unconstitutional 😒 What is it with this country and electing village idiots and unqualified nutjobs?
www.jsonline.com/story/news/b...
I'm glad she helped. I'm infuriated that she was punished for trying to protect someone from possibly being sent to a place like CECOT ... She knew he wouldn't have been given due process, so she acted on her principals and compassion. I commend that.
Just one more way to attempt to bully and intimidate those in the justice system. Do the "right" thing (often the wrong thing) or we'll humiliate you, at the least.
that amendment has been ignored in several ways
While 🍊🤡 clearly hates the WHOLE Constitution, he seems particularly hateful of the 1st, 5th, and 14th Amendments...and Articles I and II (especially that "...shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed" part)
The is to remove the base of Dems and DEI ..'em Niggas.
The minute you get back here...careful and reset your phone.
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How the hell did the Gestapo get on base?
Biden directed them to do the opposite! www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/imm...
@papst-ny.bsky.social
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EVERYONE who isn't a white Christian and fully supportive of this regime is a target and next in line for this treatment.
Tell that to the f****** piece of s*** in the White House! This should not ever be allowed. I don't give a d*** where they're from schools. Churches, homes, leave him the f*** alone. They aren't doing anything wrong. They aren't hurting people and they aren't gang. Members, the majority aren't!
This has got to end. Congress, grow a pair. Or two or three.
The people who authorized this need to pay, the people who executed the order NEED TO BE FIRED for failure to uphold their oath of office
When this is over, EVERY magat should be hunted down, arrested and sent to El Salvador for treason.
It didn’t work at Nuremberg and it won’t work here!!
ICE agents are scum.
ICEholes, if you will
It won't but sadly 'Trump pardoned me' will.
Exactly!
If ICE agents were following illegal orders they should be fired and facing charges. This is not the way ICE should operate.
For all th e ppl that saw the tape of the ice agent breaking the car window and pulling out an immigrant. That was not a real ice agent. He was identified as maga that was at the Jan 6 insurrection. Some of these ppl taking and disappearing ppl aren't even real ice agents. This is a crime.
Abolish ICE #SALT
They should not EXIST.
It’s not even ICE anyway! More like the Proud Boys et al - the felons militants! 🤡🤡🤡
Problem is ... what is an illegal order? As far as ICE is concerned, the presence of many undocumented is itself illegal, so they can do no wrong. Unless they accidentally collar a US citizen.
"accidentally", sure
It'll happen once they do more workplace raids like the one in Grand Island, Nebraska in 2005. You seeep up enough fish, not everyone will be a target.
Sweep*
And it was in December 2006 ... I remembered incorrectly.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swift_r...
I think you're misunderstanding me, I'm staying the end point of this is them snatching up citizens completely on purpose
Which they have done and no apologies given to those mistakenly swept up. May undocumented have come and made their asylum request however and just waiting adjudication while the orange tyrant got rid of immigration judges.
Right, which is paradoxical to say we have a huge case backlog and then slim down the immigration court bench. Unless longer detention is the goal to help out CoreCivic and the like.
Ideally, ICE should not operate at all
In the same way that a lot of pedophiles are attracted to occupations where there is a presumption of trustworthiness and police attract those with power issues from their high school years to work out, it seems that many ICE agents joined to act out their issues against 'outsiders'
ICE shouldn’t fucking exist.
A rogue agency within a rogue presidency
Nah fuck the face charges . Prisoners swap with el Salvador
In normal times, of course not. But we have a criminal in the WH right now.
A criminal with immunity
We need to demand our congresspeople to wake the hell up and take action as talk does nothing.
Sorry, but it’s better to unequivocally define who “we” & “our” are, and who they may represent!
We as in we the people.
Hey Congress. It’s time: Impeach. Convict. Remove. @aoc.bsky.social @sanders.senate.gov @booker.senate.gov @repjasmine.bsky.social @whitehouse.senate.gov @reed.senate.gov @hakeem-jeffries.bsky.social @warren.senate.gov @markey.senate.gov @schiff.senate.gov @kaine.senate.gov @markey.senate.gov
Charge him with Treason while you are at it.
Impeach Convict Remove
Not with this congress.
only because they are more afraid of trump than they are of us. It's up to us to change that.
This! 💯
They're not afraid of him. They agree with him. Virtually all of the moderates got primaried out in 2010. All that's left is the nationalists.
Murkowski even said they’re all afraid of him. And his retaliation
Absolutely we must.
Yes because it's the spineless gutless orange jackass worshippers that won't dare do anything to bring the anger of the orange jackass down on them!
Impeach. Convict. Remove. Arrest. Prosecute. Imprison. There. Fixed it for ya.
We the People need to do a march into the Capitol Building.
Emprison in cecot. Seems fitting.
Totally agree
We need a leader of any party to stand up, grow a pair and lead this country out of this hell.. it would be a layup to beat this clown show..
💯 this. Gonna be hard to find any GOP to rise up and stand up to the tyrant, however. He's beaten down the old GOP into submission.
Maybe a sitting President can't be indicted but those following his illegal orders can be. It's gotta start somewhere. Is there anyone left to do this?
A great example ought to be Pete Hegseth for his blatant disregard for OPSEC and classified info as well as for his total incompetence that put soldiers at risk.
“Following orders” is not good enough. Criminals, all of them. Human beings are not inherently illegal. Kidnapping sure as fuck is.
There is a Nuremberg in Pennsylvania.
This is ALL because We, The People, allowed Congress to create the DHS through the P.A.T.R.I.O.T. Act, which, backed up by SCOTUS Rulings, allows ICE to operate with very little Restraint. What had once been Border Police are quickly being transformed into Gestapo Agents for The State.
Yes, and it's fkd☝️ Thank you for the ICE origins reminder!
My pleasure. I've been against the PATRIOT Act since its inception. It gives too much Power to 1 Agency. Its LEOs [FBI, DOJ, ICE] are allowed to operate largely Without much oversight. This allows them to run Roughshod over our Freedoms. If you haven't already, check out NSLs for a Real Scare.
I warned my students about this back then. They thought it was Ms. W. overreacting.
Same here. I would talk about this at work or in Social settings and people would think I was just being paranoid.
Just curious, were those the same sort of people who would more recently fall for Pizzagate, Hunter's Laptop, or the Big Election Lie?
The ones who ignored me grew up to be Trumpers. I don't know how wacky they got because if I had stayed in touch on social media (as they weren't students anymore), and they were Trumpers, I unfriended. Before I got rid of Meta altogether, Trumpers lost my trust. You don't get cute cat and kid
Updates if you are a Trumper (especially if I catch you posting 💩 or being "devil's advocate" on my political posts.
What is you don't get cute cat and kid? I fortunately didn't have too many outright trump-pets in my social networks to ban. Only one old friend got fiesty in my comments to another friend and then wouldn't back down when I told him to cut out his belligerent language and insults.
And yes, the people who never seem to like or comment on anything until it's time for them to stand up for Trump and be rude to friends on my wall. Be a bigot in your own space. But zero tolerance in mine. And I will always stick up for my "underdogs"!
Ie. The people who'll report you to the regime when the time comes. They are not trustworthy. So, they lose access to me.
It's people who want you to ignore their politics and bad behavior because you're family or know each other forever. They want to keep up with your pleasant life posts
Not really. They just bought into the misbegotten Belief that the Government had only our Best Interests at heart and would simply Never use these laws against us. Having grown up in the 1960s, I knew Better.
Does that list of LEOs also include the NSA? I saw this video by More Perfect Union on this mass data contractor, Palantir, with its tendrils in all sorts of cross service platforms of government, and it wants more. youtu.be/DZ95Gmvg_D4?...
Here is a great Organizational Chart at the DHS Website that shows what it controls. Of course, this was pre-trump; I suspect a few more have been added since. www.dhs.gov/sites/defaul...
Thanks! From the moment that the only plane allowed in US airspace to take flight was the Suadi Royal family being lifted home to FOXnews honing its grifty bear trap clutches airing M.E. wars like Desert Storm 24/7 with every little detail, bystander, or survivor of 9/11. Groomed to be surveiled
Hopefully. 🤞
I wonder how many of ICE agents are Proud Boys
I wouldn't be surprised if it were quite a few!
I agree
thank god for the judges
They are enjoying the hate . Bet they all signed up because they are racist
Somebody in investigative journalism needs to look into the pattern here. I've read a number of accounts of detainees that were reported via Twitter by a maga Twitter user. Is that how all of these are getting on ice radar?
Unacceptable - ICE is just like the Gestapo.
The SS. The Gestapo operated in secret, as the name says. The SS were uniformed cruel thugs
what? the gestapo arrested people. they went into people’s homes and dragged them out. the ss was not a police force. it controlled the concentration camps, its sicherheitsdienst was a domestic intelligence service, and there were ss units in the military.
And sometimes the police did, sometimes the SD. www.topographie.de/en/the-hoist... Sometimes they all did. So depending on the timeline you are both correct. And it all sucks.
I don’t wanna hear one more fucking word about how Trump “loves the military“. They don’t give a flying fuck about anyone unless that person can produce money for them. That’s it. No one else matters to them.
Yep, they already send them to be humiliated in Panama. Nobody wants them there, and there will be violent protests for months. Because Panamanians have balls
People who act and think that way cannot be trusted when it comes to most things. Their price for betrayal is far too low to be trusted.
Did you saw the video of him telling vets thata the enemy hitted the hard? He was disgusted and impacted by their amputations and said the most stupid thing ever to come out in the WH.
He has disparaged the military over and over again. When will they start to realize he has zero respect for them????
The military is a subset of our population; they are in the military for different reasons. A fair number are misfits/trouble makers. They hate the military as much as Trump does
all the misfit/troublemakers are flocking to ICE
Ppl who join ICE don't do so bcuz they're misfits/troublemakers. They join bcuz they're racist bigots who want to make trouble for ppl they have contempt for. It's the misfits/troublemakers who make history one way or another. So let's make trouble and fight this regime! #ICEgestopo
They're flocking to ICE because they can do even worse, with no badge, uniform or warrant. They are protected by a gang and a mask instead
I’d love to see the percentage of ICE agents who also stormed the capital on Jan 6th.
That would be interesting.
I'm old enough to remember him referring to our fallen as "suckers and losers." But we still elected him. I don't get it.
That’s not their jurisdiction…ICE can’t go on bases like that. People are questioning how many Russian Assets infiltrated ICE/DHS and now those in question are ordering agents to step foot on our military bases?! 🙄
they are grabbing people here legally so they can fill trumps million mark... also they are sadistic xenophobes
Assign stupid quotas Get stupid behavior
Yet you’re all still sat on your asses writing letters! REVOLT or pipe down!
I think people in the services might need to update their ideas of who meets the criteria of 'all enemies, foreign and domestic' given these incidents
Seriously! The hypocrisy is unbelievable! Who is supposed to come and save you Soldier Boy from the other Soldier Boys?
Why are they even called, the Services? WHO do they serve? Gun lobbyists? America waging a constant war for profit somewhere every single decade for the last century. Two centuries.
Farmers refer to breeding as "servicing" and that seems a more fitting definition than "help people"
IIRC, snipers are trained to dehumanize the people they shoot by referring to it as "servicing the target".
In budget meetings, the Ontario College of Art and Design in Toronto refers to students as "funding units"
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So infuriating
I can’t find anything! But won’t give up! THIS IS WORSE THAN UNAMERICAN!
Remember that military keeps things close in the community. These paramilitary groups that are running the show are breaking the law! Their toxic military isn’t legal! Remember that they keep it hidden like Kilmar. Jennifer saw him on their male sex press release!
so they certainly aren’t happy with what the trump admin is doing as well as ice? Good
Are the CG and US military mindless zombies to let ICE come into their homes and take one of their own? WTAF I keep waiting for them to wake up and defend their families, the American people, and the US constitution like they’ve sworn they would.
Me too. Groupthink is real. I dare say we've each fallen into it in the course of our lives, and certainly we've all seen it up close more than once. Hierarchical organizations, those in which individualism is broken down in boot camp and training exercises, are going to have it overmuch. 😥
Without a doubt, ICE is Trump’s Gestapo!!! This is Anti-American!
We need to dispel the widespread incorrect notion that “All you need to do to become a citizen is marry an American!”
If he wants to know how wide spread it is, go back to Trump's first term. www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/story/opinio...
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Mind blowing - how few decent and brave Republicans we need to stop this nightmare under Trump - Where is their decency?
We only need FIVE Republicans in the House, FOUR in the Senate, & TWO on the Supreme Court. That's how close we are. Too many folks here spend their time bashing Democrats instead of going after Republicons. If anyone knows a way to make Rcons change their minds on this issue please do it now!
Yes! I’m with you! That’s where we put the pressure and the strategy going forward on a few GOP members to remember their oath and their humanity I agree - a line was crossed today You do not jail judges for ruling against you in a democracy Thanks for your reply
CG should be instructed NOT to let the ICE gestapo on base!
When does the revolution start?
i'm getting really close to considering anyone in an ICE uniform shoot on sight. they need to fear us, not the other way.
The problem with this is now most of them are plain closed and they're starting to use local and State Police as well.
They are the modern-day Gestapo. I rather die penniless in the streets than do that job. When it is all said and done, they should be tried for their crimes. Just following orders didn't work for NAZIs and it won't work here.
I agree. I honestly don't know how they sleep at night.
Clothes
someone is gonna do it i bet
It’s started.
We can post about how outraged we are but we had all better be taking action of some sort. We need to apply more resistance wherever we can. Call for impeachment. Use @5calls.org to contact your reps. Check out impeachtrumpagain.org
Thank you!! I endorse 5 calls. We must not give in. This is Gestapo.
Impeaching him is worthless. They won’t convict him. We are going to have to remove him the old fashioned way.
That's a dangerous path that most aren't willing to go down. We have to use everything at our disposal to fight for the constitution. Imho
Yes, but those midterms feel so far away right now.
If we still have a country.
We can call for impeachment right now. We don't have to wait. They have violated the constitution. What do we want to leave our kids and grandkids? What do we want them to live through? If we can get out of this with the constitution intact we have something for them to build from.
Sure. But impeachment needs 67 votes in the Senate to convict. Dems (with 2 Is) hold 47 seats. You think 20 Repubs are going to flip to support the constitution? Most of them would sell their soul to keep their job. Impeachment isn't going to be successful.
Impeachment proceedings have already started. Rep. AL Green from Texas to thank. As with twice before, there are not enough Congressional votes for it to succeed until the House is flipped.
Oh that's right. Wednesday or something. Traitors.
There's no question now that Republicans are traitors.
Trump is stomping over everything he can,I seem to think people will be fed up and not comply with King Trump's orders.
I have seen war. Lots of it, and it is not glorious or exciting. It is deadly, finite and depressing. I wish that experience on no one. But sometimes we have to choice the harder right over the easier wrong.
Absolutely. I have a 21 yo daughter and it saddens me to no end to realize she may very well not have the same opportunities that her mother had or my sisters.
When do we think bodily autonomy for women everywhere in the US gets restored?
Heard. Fair point. Ideally upon removal of corrupt supreme court judges. I'm not anti revolution. I just feel it's the best way to get the most corruption out at one time without rampant lawlessness.
When white men are no longer in charge.
A-fucking-men!
As soon as crazy Christians aren’t in charge.
I call those people the cult.
We are pushed back with women rights,we have to stand up to this craziness.
Absolutely.
After we have cured the Christian nationalism maga virus that infects 50% of this country.
IF …
Agreed. But. If we aren’t willing. We will lose our democracy.
We still have an opportunity to remove him constitutionally. It seems to me we can't very well say we're fighting for freedoms and rights if we don't at least try to make use of the document that guarantees those freedoms and rights. You're likely right but this is the logical place to start.
Again. Understand. I spent an entire lifetime defending that document. However, I have not seen that our elected officials are prepared to use it to protect our way of life. That is very disheartening. We need action not talk. While violence is not the answer. It ma be the only path.
I respect that. I'm aware but I can no longer live in a gloom everyday. I hope you're wrong. I really really do. I'm listening to the younger generations. Those actually informed and paying attention. They don't want anarchy. If he's taken out he becomes a martyr. Civil war isn't far behind that.
I am with young people everyday. And hear you. Unfortunately he won’t be removed without a civil war.
I'm glad to know you'll be ready if/when the time comes. 👊🏻 I will have to hide in a cave or something. No fighting skills whatsoever.
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Oh we care…and everyone that’s not on high alert to what’s going on, should be. No one is safe in this country anymore.
Just another reason for service members in all branches to refuse to follow an unconstitutional, illegal, or immoral order.
Yes and each and every member whether it be service member or agents arresting people without due process should go to jail. There's no statute of limitations on the Constitution's Bill of Rights.
Crimes against the United States of America.
General military strike?
Or a temporary military takeover until the Republican traitors are removed and jailed.
Going after military and their families? That's a good way to find out self defense training goes both ways...and it'll end poorly for ICE
Unidentified people are not as easy to find if they go missing from a #StandYourGround state.
ICE is out of control with their Gestapo tactics and needs to be abolished!
ICE isn't out of control. They are doing exactly what they were told to do. This is exactly what they were created for. To be a state sponsored domestic terror organization.
I’m going to disagree with you on that one. The behavior and tactics from two years ago vs now have become reckless and dangerously aggressive.
Long ago! I was working with a group who helped refugees to the US threatened by violent El Salvadoran gangs in the early 1980s. These gangs were dealing cocaine supplied from our government.
A good friend of mine did a black mission down there to supply weapons to the Contras in exchange for the fore said items. When he returned to ET USMCAS, Oliver North asked him, how are you doing, son?
History is a strange bedfellow.
I remember my late father (146th ANG MAC) telling me when he landed in San Salvador in 1982, there were so many American Hueys and Cobra gunships there, it looked like Da Nang 1965.
I am from El Salvador and I grew up in the 80’s , we did not have gangs then, we were dealing with the civil war that torn the country apart, the US support the government, I found out after the war that the military were involved in drug dealing, by the military I mean the high ranking officers
I was part of the army during the 80’s , I did not see nor participated in any drug trafficking , so that happens at a higher level, the refugees that you worked with must have fled the war, not gangs, the gang started proliferating in the mid 90’s after a lot of them were deported from the US
My friend was told not to open the crates they were carry or ask contents. Their frogs were waiting for them south of the border and had all military paint painted over. The only way he knew was when one of the operators opened one and he caught a glimpse as he was told to look away.
Unless you were asked to go on a mission to an unknown destination and further asked to place your dogtags insignia and unit patches in a box, you wouldn’t have seen anything. My friend wasn’t told shit. They were met by Operators who took it from there.
And who is your friend?, we were always sent in missions to unknown destinations, in fact we never knew anything until we were engaged in combat
A good Marine always has your back. That’s why I love the Marines. It’s been 40 years since we met in the Punk scene and he still has my back.
The only thing they knew in that jungle airstrip was the non-operators who told them they would take the crates from there were Contras and when they RTBd, knew who North was when he greeted them. That’s all he could share. I trust him as a brother and my old man flew C130s there to SSal said yes.
USMCAS out of El Toro 1982-84 he wasn’t told shit. They were told to turn over patches, tags, and any identification insignia. They were flown to an airstrip below MXDF to recover their Frogs and found them with no identifying markings. AO south of Chiapas meeting up with operators who said zilch
Perhaps you object to my terminology. I'm sorry you grew up during that violent upheaval made worse by corrupt governments & militaries. I won't forget the trauma I witnessed on the faces of people who escaped seeking refuge/citizenship here. If we forget history we risk repeating it.
The refugees we worked with were escaping El Salvador and coming to the USA as political refugees in case you misunderstood this. At that time we were still a democracy and granted asylum but it took time. You are defending violent people or am I mistaken? They decapitated one man's brother.
Why would I defend violent people? Did you read what I said or you are saying this because I said I was in the military? Please help me understand, I myself I’m a political asylum recipient, and I also fled the country because of the violence, my life was in danger after serving in the army.
And let's not forget the hefty prison sentences POC got for selling or possessing said gov't coke. And around that time, we had the rise of for-profit prisons who needed an unpaid workforce. All while white folk used a different form of the SAME DRUG got minimums
It was planned: pot for hippies, crack for black folks, to disenfranchise you.
And if the SS were rounding up people a block away, that’s what you would tell them?
Oh my dear marijuana has been legal in Canada since 2018. Medical "pot" was legal in our beloved Northern neighbor long before then. Your country has been much more progressive than our own USA. I sincerely hope you stay that way. 🇨🇦💓
If you haven't read the book 'The Case Against Congress' by Drew Pearson and Jack Anderson published in 1969 you might find it interesting. Congressional corruption is hardly new. I am a "white folk". Now in my seventies I had hoped the world would come to understand we are one human race. Nope.
I was born on the last day of the Tet Offensive whose first memories were filled with Apollo 17, Vietnam, Nixon and that trauma filled Munich Olympiad (not on their side and never will be) so yeah, your sentiment is relatable. We had come so far only to set on fire by a madman who learned nothing!
I feel like everything my grandparents (born in the 1880s), my parents surviving both WW1 & 2 ( born in 1901 & 1910), and my own hard work has all been thrown away. All the lives lost, what was it for? A Nazi sits in the oval office. Do we fight, scream, cry, or all at once?
They’ve thrown history away. Steady decline in DOE will do that. They’re purposefully dumbing down the populace. They want easy to control masses to produce their products, not communicating unionizing citizens who know their protections. They’re operating like a Corp that just started public trade.
Note: from 2021, there’s a story about a wife of a citizen finally being RETURNED by Biden after being deported by the first Trump admin in 2018! Incompetence and cruelty is where they live.
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But all the leftists said Biden is the same as Trump and put kids in cages!
Maybe we shouldn't point this out. These ICE guys are predators who would try it again.
Egad. 😬 I surely hope not.
That was my thought as well.
I'm in favor of calling ICE out. Letting them get away with crushing the rights of service members cannot stand.
Absolutely, I just think we need to help protect these people at the same time, but yeah, call them out big time.
wow - my cousin's son is in the military and engaged to a woman he met while stationed overseas. I wonder if she's in trouble as well?
The majority of the military voted for this so why the outrage? Also members of the military have SO and Spouses who are not in the U.S. legally. People can live with their choices. I’m much more concerned about those who didn’t vote for this who are now in an untenable position.
The immigrant woman who was taken away did not vote for Trump.
Yes it’s illegal for her to vote. What’s the “own” here?
Because military are not a monolithic voting bloc. We don't know how the spouses of these kidnapped people voted. Besides, if it takes shit like this to make the Trump voters pause and think, it's some grim schadenfreude.
2/3 voted for Trump. And not sure why you think they would care about this or rethink anything.
I'm not sure why you're forgetting there's a 1/3 that didn't vote for Trump. Should I say 'Fuck all Americans, you voted for this, enjoy your suffering' even though a good chunk didn't? Enjoy your shitty government, cmtrees, your country voted for this.
It's more like ~61% did not vote for Trump.
…and yet - here we are. Entering the disappearing of folks phase. That didn’t take long now did it.
We’re all in trouble.
Yeah I made friends with an Australian woman who just married an army man. She’s been super nervous ever since before the election. I said she’s safe because they are ethnic cleansing and she’s white. But I think ppl from outside our country actually may have a better grasp of his chaotic nature.
Don't wonder. She is.
At this point I think everyone should consider themselves in trouble
This x 1000. We are ALL in trouble. This is just a preliminary phase to see how complacent we will all be to ‘others’ getting disappeared. First they came for the…. I read the fucking poem, so I know how this ends. There really are more of us than them - but if we just mill around we’re doomed.
U.S. citizens have been detained even if they have their passports with them. What if my autistic son gets detained? He'll have no idea at all what is happening.
Yup, no one is safe and that should scare everybody.
Be preemptive, tell them to line up an Immigration Attorney in their area of residence...just in case
She needs an immigration lawyer immediately. Tell her to stay home and not to open the door to ANY LE!
They can’t legal break into a home unless they have a signed judicial warrant for a specific address & specific person. We need to make sure all people in the country know their rights whether natural born citizens, naturalized citizens or immigrants - documented or not.
I preface this by saying this is bullshit, and should not ever happen here. But, does it make any difference that they were on base housing? I mean, they will say that it is property of the government.
Exactly this! ⬆️
True, but Trump isn't concerned with the law so ICE might not be either.
The Crooked Supreme Court gave him absolute immunity and cleared the way for him to commit crimes.
Surely the spouse is MS-13 🙄
Seriously obvious that it really doesn’t matter to them who you are. And between drunk ass Hesgeth and this and VA cuts (ETC).. can’t imagine morale is good. Nor should it be.
wtf?
I’m thinking ICE is just another word for kidnapper.
Hopefully when the President tries to unlawfully order the military against our citizens its members remember things like this.
EXACTLY! Remember military when he asks you to shoot at us.
That is not how it works...
Let's ask ourselves: how did ICE manage to get onto this base in order to do this? They must have allowed it.
Don't worry - they already brainwashed most of them into hating women, ESPECIALLY spouses. Look up Dependapotomus and prepare to be horrified.
most grunts are prideful they definitely do not like their pride insulted by a president
I believe our military might just be getting Fed Up
God, I hope so.
Apparently not fed up enough because they’re not fucking doing anything
Hopefully a plan ensues
What about non-military abductee / detainees or is your pompous finger wagging reserved only for the military?
NOT THE POINT!
Pray tell, what was his point, per you?
that's a bot. you can tell by the weird spacing around the /. who do you know that puts a space both before *and* after the stroke when they're doing/this?
Wow 😮
@stonekettle.bsky.social You heard about this?
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How the hell are they getting on base?
Because they are federal law enforcement on federal land. Who’s going to stop them?
Gotcha
What if they took an active duty soldier?
Would it really matter? It’s clear that the person’s criminal background, citizenship, profession, etc, don’t matter to Trump. He wants to round up and deport as many people as possible.
These keystone cops couldn't find their hands in front of their face. So how are they finding folks to arrest? It has to be some kinda database of filters😒
They look for Hispanic, African, and mid-eastern names?
Wow. Straight up racist shit. And how exactly does this legally apply to archaic law they are using to warrant their actions? Isn't that against the civil rights act, which could prove this has nothing to do with national security. I guess white national security.😒
And how are they getting their data list? Who they go after?
Really good question.
Coast Guard is a command of Homeland Security, just like ICE. They aren't with the DoD. ICE likely got in with their DHS passes.
Ahh
Not all base housing is on base. There is satellite base housing that doesn’t have a gate.
This should help with recruiting. "Join the military. While you are away risking your life for us, we will go to youR home and kidnap your spouse. Maybe we'll take your children too. That seems like an awesome strategy.
Yes. Incredible Putin. To think of the good such a brain could have done for the betterment of human society. Instead he is masterminding destruction. I’m crying.
Coast Guard risking life? The last death on active duty was more than five years ago and it was a training accident.
Cheez, have you seen a coast guard rescue? Just because they do the job well doesn't mean it's not risky.
I've lived on the Washington coast. Served in the Navy alongside CG members. It's a cakewalk most of the time. They have like one unit that deploys and the rest sleep in their own beds every night. They've lost 24 people in the line of duty in history. More McDonald's workers died at work.
Absolutely the Nazi playbook. Declare an enemy within. Round that "enemy" up and ship them to a concentration camp.
Her case needs to get in the hands of the ACLU! They’re doing amazing work on this!
And we need to send our Starbucks budget to the ACLU. 5$ a month is peanuts. Let’s do it!
If they took my spouse that would be the end of my service for this country.
Or the start if you take the John Wick approach
Of course.... I mean besides the relationship, there are kids, and mortgages and loans, etc, etc.
Nothing makes a person care less about a mortgage and loans ect than taking away someone's person. People will move world's and die over their person. Wars have been started and poetry written over the love for another person. Paint them into a corner and I promise we will see how they feel...
Damn this hits hard! Note this doesn't (necessarily) mean violence. What it means is that the "State" cannot win when people who oppose the "State" are willing to protest (peacefully?) even when it puts their life in danger.
Totally 👍
Once you’re in you don’t get to choose
Just say you are gay or trans they'll let ya go
UNACCEPTABLE if true!
Hell yes!! I’m old and disabled and I will be there!
Repost. Trump is a threat
GOP the party of the military 🤦♀️
I didn't think the leopard would eat my face or my families 🤪
Absolutely disgusting
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What he said...
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I am shocked, and am not sure what to say.
Why would anyone on base allow her to be taken?
??? Like what for instance could they do?
You don’t just drive on to a military base. Did they have a federal warrant? Were they challenged to provide it? MP’s at the gates should have ensured they had legal documents. Or MP’s should have been called. The military has jurisdiction on base. It is their duty to protect personnel.
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Recruiters going to have a tough time selling that.
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Shut this shit down! Someone! This is absolutely disgusting!
The military all took oaths & now stand by while the Trump and Congress trash your constitution and legislation. Watching as they toss out service people for ideological reasons, throw family members out of the country, give away military operations detail while ops are in progress. Whats it take?
Well, my maga nephew thinks his wife is safe because he is in the military (coast guard). She did get a green card, but I think that doesn't mean much these days.
Green cards are being arbitrarily cancelled.
Yeah, fafo
ALL MAGATS,Think it won't happen to them , when it does they can't quite fathom it with thier little racists brains
Sure it wasn't her?
They don't live on base. I tried to warn him, and he wouldn't believe me and said he is only deporting criminals.
I know it's harsh, and sometimes people have hope a family member can be turned around, but at some point the family member has to be told fascists are not welcome in your home.
It's a nice thought and one I've entertained a lot, but in reality, not everyone has the privilege of a support network or life in an area where they can cut off family, friends, coworkers, or other members of their community over political or other value differences (including MAGAts).
Really, you can't find anyone , damn I would move and start over , it's not that hard I've started over 4 times , you can do it !!
I was in the US Navy. I moved plenty. After I was divorced for being possessed by demons (thanks, Florida), I was homeless for eleven years. My current wife and I live here because we can afford it.
You sound privileged.
I don't know how many people I've read here saying "you should just move out of your red state," as if there's a multitude of money, jobs, and housing available for everyone. Or the other one: Red staters deserve what they get (no matter how many didn't vote for this crap).
I have no support network of family. They all cut me off when I was outed as an atheist. (So much for so-called "progressive Christians.") If a person won't cut off a person for "values" (fascism), what do they get cut off for? When it affects them personally? Fascism is explicitly genocidal.
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That's very sad and I'm sorry that you experienced that. I don't think it's productive to cut friends and family off as a political strategy. Self preservation: yes. It's hard to isolate from MAGAts in real life unless you live in a blue bubble or have sufficient privilege to do so.
None of the Christians in my family are Republicans. The country is full of atheists thrown away by their families (including by progressives) because they are not Christian.
It's not because their families are "Christian" per se as much as 'Christian Fascist" which is completely different. They don't believe in Jesus as much as in their religion as a weapon of hate and exclusion.
My sister is a deacon in the Metropolitan Community Church. As far as I'm aware, they are the most "progressive" of Christian churches. She disowned me long ago.
As an atheist, it's not my job to determine who's a Christian and who's not. If they say they are, I believe them. Christian acting like fascists have existed as long as there have been Christians. There has never been a concerted movement to oust them; as far as I can see they are fine with them.
My son and I can't be around maga family. We have completely cut them off because we can not emotionally handle what they stand for. I hope my husband understands because this includes his parents. It is a really hard time. I have been completely broken lately.
I don't care who's a so-called 'Christian' or not, just keep the goddamned creatures away from me. I don't believe in fairy tales or supernatural beings to avoid thinking about death. Control is the aim of ALL religions and to be avoided as much as possible. Fascism is but one name.
No need to dehumanize people.
It’s not political differences, but morality, civility and humanity differences.
No doubt.
You should send him this post!
I will but want it to be verified first.
If this is true it’s just a matter of time before someone will want to defend against the invading kidnappers.
Very despicable actually
We all need to be out in the streets, every chance we get. Next go around is May Day, May 1st. Because this is a weekday, many events will be after working hours. Google 50501 for events near you.
It needs to be a May Day general strike. Workers of the world unite.
Well we’ve been wondering why the military has taken a “wait and see” approach to our traitor in chief. Here you go. Remember your wife/child doesn’t have to be an actual immigrant to be disappeared by ICE.
That's horrifying.
1). They don't honor citizenship promises to immigrants who serve our country: www.usatoday.com/story/news/p...
2). They erase minority history from the Pentagon: www.independent.co.uk/news/world/a...
3). They mishandle classified operational attack plans: apnews.com/article/hegs...
4). They cut veterans' benefits: apnews.com/article/vete...
5). And now, they **kidnap military wives** off of bases while their spouse is on deployment. So I have to ask: Why would any military member support the Trump administration? Why would any veteran still be a Republican? Why does America tolerate this treatment of our service men and women?
Because the military is a microcosm of society. There are morons and MAGAts everywhere.
Yes, now is the time to support your family and friends, including by giving them cold hard cash, in quitting their jobs that involve a pew pew! Army, police, ice. Make it not okay
Same thing happened his last term - cutting military benefits - Trump is a domestic enemy.
He stole money promised for schools, housing, libraries, etc. to be built on military bases to build his stupid border fence.
See the sources? Above you? Sources are nice. Ppl actually read them. Be like Michael.
Just curious: is it only wives? Or are they abducting husbands as well? Inquiring minds with two x chromosomes want to know.
The original report said "wife" so that is the only information publicly available at the moment
In many other countries, generals would be having quiet conversations about their civilian military commander in chief ‘round about now.
There is a reason they are conducting a purge of senior military leadership.
What do you do if you can't go overseas without worrying about your spouse being taken away.
This is so absofuckinglutely wrong I have no words. Just sayin.
🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 This is so despicable!!!
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Who the hell let them on base
I get why you ask that question, but it’s not the right one. Why are they rounding up people left and right everywhere without proper evidence of wrongdoing? I saw a clip of ICE breaking into a car with an axe to arrest someone. That must be illegal too.
This us fucked up No respect for veterans active or retired Going after low hanging fruit
Intentional to instill great FEAR
He has an army of jack-booted thugs!
This will only get worse unless you do something. General strike
For months, Trump, Vance, Fox, Newsmax etc etc have been screaming about 20 million illegal immigrants who entered the US in the last two years. Why is ICE not focused on deporting these ‘20 million??’ people & instead going after students, researchers, people with families and jobs AND valid visas?
If you look at the actual numbers, it's more like 2 million, not 20 million.
That's WHO they're talking about. They DON'T WANT academics and intellectuals from other countries influencing diversity in thinking. It's also a tactic to scare the franchised American public, as well.
Because they don’t exist. The most conservative MAGA on the planet put it at 11M and yapped about it constantly. #Krasnov pulled 20M out of thin air and now MAGA decided it’s 20M. Why the Media AND Biden/Kamala and Dems didn’t hit back everyday blows my mind!!! Still!!!
All brown people are the same to them.
Cause those 20million don’t exist? 🤨
Bingo!!
Because they weren’t 20 million daily illegal immigrants in two years
www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUMJ...
it was all a lie. Looking up statistics it’s estimated that about 500k immigrants evade detection and enter the US illegally per year. The rest are here legally and applying for status…that’s who they are targeting because they know where they are as they’ve been following the laws.
There is so much more to come! migrantinsider.com/p/washington...
Yeah this tracks. After growing the prison industrial complex for so long. Geo Group and Core civic are prison companies. Pretty sure they get more money the more people they have in their prisons, so they cut costs on supplies and food and keep a huge percentage of the funding as profit.
I think that’s the number in his head he needed to win the 2020 but didn’t plus a little padded fluff for his ego. Rewriting actual history to benefit the big lie.
they are easier they have addresses /paperwork. They are not “essential” Workers 1/2 of ag. Meat processing are undocumented, our food supply would be in jeophardy. Trump isn’t so stupid as to endanger our food or maybe he is that stupid he is literally a loose cannon pointed at the american ppl
Actually I think ICE DID start showing up at farms, and the farmers made it clear we wouldn't have food in like a week so they backed off a little, or they are just going to smaller farms. But they have def picked up farm workers. Plus I'm sure a lot of immigrants left bc it's not safe here
www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcn...
Trump’s deporting the recent asylum seekers which even the established Latinos did not like.
Trump talked about exempting undocumented ag and hotel Workers. He floated some sort of plan to exempting them. Thursday.
Because it's a ruse and they really want to deport everyone who disagrees with them. That is becoming abundantly clear.
Stop watching FakesNewsChannel and Newsmax. Stop assuming tRUmp and Vance are speaking the truth.
I listen/watch neither of those ‘stations’, my questions were rhetorical as all but you recognized. Peace.
It was general advice to anyone, not specifically to you. Peace be with you as well.
The 20 million number was a lie
Because they won't go to the meatpacking plants and affect "buisness" But they'll get their numbers however they can
They hit 1 packer years ago. And took a few hundred. Huge Republican donor too. It’s NEVER happened again. Weird huh 🤔
They may not directly in to the businesses, but the fear of ICE showing up has left Florida with a massive labor shortage that has lead to them proposing a state bill that would allow 14 year olds to work overnight shifts on school nights. Would allow 16 years olds to work 12 hr shifts 🙃
...with no meal breaks. They want to erase the legally required breaks.
I want to know who tf is gonna let their teenager work at night?! They shouldn’t even have kids if they think that’s ok!!!
They are preying on the extremely vulnerable. The teen who would do anything to make sure their siblings have food, the kid of a single mom who is sick or disabled.
And the teen with a loving mother who fell victim to the disease of addiction. 😢
Republicons want to bring back the "good old days" of kids dropping out of school to go to work and earn money to help their family survive. You know, back when America was great...
This! Someone tried arguing w me that the dept of ed should be closed “bc America’s literacy rate is so low” I said, “ 1, the dept of ed has nothing to do w daily curriculum 2 the literacy rate is affected by the amount of old ppl that quit after 7th grade or didn’t even have access to school” 🤦🏽♀️
Poor people. If I could have gotten a job at 14 it would have made my quality of life in middle and high school significantly better.
Obviously instead of a job what would have made the quality of your school life better is if you and your family had had proper financial, medical and physical help provided by the state which is what happens in other countries.
What I didn’t have though was- consistent availability of feminine hygiene products, hot water 365 days a year, enough school supplies throughout the entirety of the school year, money for field trips, food in the house all the time, childhood staples like birthday parties and sleepovers
I'm sorry you had to deal with such uncertainty, stress & depravation. Not something that one can shake off easily & has lasting consequences. The expression "A society should be judged on how it treat its most vulnerable" should be at the fore of everyones minds. And ultra wealth's unacceptable.
I mean, obviously. And I did have access to some of those things. Free lunches, state insurance until I turned 18. No food stamps though because I received social security benefits from my dead dad and according to the govt. $1,200 a month was “too high of an income to qualify” 🙄
Because there was nowhere near 20 million people that came across the border legally or illegally. So now they're scrambling and snatching the low-lying fruit so they look like they're actually doing something.
Also it's easier for people who haven't been tracked/ snuck in illegally to stay out of visibility. I don't think there were ever 20mil undocumented immigrants here at once either. DOGE gave ICE immigrant data from the depts they hijacked, so they're only finding people with records of coming here
Holy shit, Fred!
I'm pretty sure we know what's happening. Trump and his followers only want white people in the United States of America. Citizens are next.
It’s time for a military coup.
All things considered, it's going to be citizens when / if we all accept it's on us
Unfortunately there seems to be a lot of this 👇 going on. How the heck do we reach people when most are still watching MSM and don't understand (or care to) what's going on? www.youtube.com/watch?v=15k3...
I wish I had that answer
No one is safe from these MF
PASS IT ON!!!✊🏼🇺🇸✊🏼 MARK YOUR CALENDAR!!!✊🏼🇺🇸✊🏼 #RESISTANCEISBEAUTIFUL!!!🌹
I was thinking, shouldn't this be a bigger story, but hell, everything should be. This is why it's so hard to stop it. There's no time to focus on one issue before 6 more present.
Someone is pulling Trumps strings, so who is running and ruining USA
Putin, or perhaps the white supremacists running our country
Putin
Vance and their heritage shit
That's why I'm focusing on three issues I feel passionate about defending. I can't fight all the battles myself. But if everyone focused on one or two things, we wouldn't feel as overwhelmed. I stay informed but am taking specific, not general, action.
Noem and her crew need to be put down just the way she put down her puppy.
Shooting would be too merciful. They should end their cruel lives strangled slowly at the end of a rope Iranian style.
We must hold Tom Homan and Stephen Miller accountable for their anti-American, anti-humanitarian acts of terror.
This is not stated enough . Those two are rotten to the core and responsible for all this kidnapping and detaining of innocent civilians .
Yes they are.
That would cheer me right up. But we need to rewrite presidential pardon power. No sense convicting them if the next empty suit pardons the lot of 'em.
Hey Congress. Convict & imprison Homan & Miller @aoc.bsky.social @sanders.senate.gov @booker.senate.gov @repjasmine.bsky.social @whitehouse.senate.gov @reed.senate.gov @hakeem-jeffries.bsky.social @warren.senate.gov @markey.senate.gov @schiff.senate.gov @kaine.senate.gov @markey.senate.gov
Will AIPAC let them? Or, are all their heads in the sand about the genocide they got us paying for instead of our free healthcare or affordable housing or higher wages? Both of these political parties.
Personally and sadly, I believe millions of Americans are asleep at the wheel or their heads buried in the sand maintaining belief that "This will never happen in America," attitude.
Tell this to the REPUBLICONS They control congressional proceedings right now
susankelley.substack.com/p/would-you-...
Yes! It's all in 2025.
Right?? No surprises really.
All of this must stop.
Holy shit!!!
Ratbastards. I hope they rot in hell.
I hope they rot even sooner.
Rotting in hell is being sent to el Salvador for no other reason than ICE has a quota to fill of foreign/brown people, no due process, no hope of EVER getting out or speaking to lawyer/family again - soon they will come for any who have dissed Trump on social media!
Rotting in hell is between them and whatever they believe. What you can work towards is making sure they rot in prison first.
Jan. 6th, apparently, was not enough for American justice to ban Trump from running for office... So, how much hope do you have that they'll end up in prison? After having committed so many crimes?
Call your Rep. and Senator every day. Capitol switchboard (202) 224-3121. Email them through their websites. Tell them this: 1. Call for impeachment. Loudly. Daily. 2. Visit the concentration camps in El Salvador and demand to see your constituents. Or don’t ask for money… (Please repost)
It’s unacceptable and yet here we are accepting it. By “we” I mean, Congress and courts - you know… the ones who were supposed to stop this and uphold the constitution?
That is terrible if true!!! Please keep us posted!!
Oh, my. I won’t be attending my 40th anniversary, anyway.
What assholes! ICE should be eliminated and investigated as soon as Democrats gain some power!
I hope that’s all that’s necessary BUT I think we all need to prepare to do more: the max. Right now that could mean donating 5$ to what Mark Kelly is having to beg for today. My heart is heavy.
Re shared..
WTF next?
It took less than one for me to care. Every time I hear about this I get discouraged even more because our country has degenerated into the worst kind of country. I am embarrassed and horrified by what we have become.
And hopefully there are people spreading the word for answers
How the fuck did they get on base?
Not all housing areas are on the base. They're in a separate fenced off area.
That's what I'm screaming and why wasn't this spouse armed? Stand your ground can be used for a righteous reason too?
What military base allows personal weapons in military housing?
What kind of military base allows ice to come in and arrest somebody that lives there especially somebody that's obviously legal if they're married to a member of their own
None!