The rules for this CaitVi 2025 Kinktober thing are such an incredible peek into the workings of the liberal puritan brain
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This sounds genuinely just like the most weenie hut jr shit my golly This is for fiction, right?
aug 29, 2025, 2:01 am β’ 7 0 β’ view
yep
aug 29, 2025, 2:02 am β’ 6 0 β’ view
Fascinating Absolute dingus behaviour
aug 29, 2025, 2:03 am β’ 8 0 β’ view
The final point is definitely the funniest here, given the context. Script from the show itself wouldn't qualify for some of these.
aug 29, 2025, 11:00 am β’ 1 0 β’ view
The real cartoon characters this is about have unambiguous prison sex, and one of them is a cop and the other is a prisoner.
aug 29, 2025, 12:13 am β’ 257 4 β’ view
One of the most interesting things about modern fandom culture to me is the permission gap between canon and fan work, where it's all but explicitly stated that fans aren't responsible enough to be trusted with themes present in the mainstream, commercial source material.
aug 29, 2025, 12:27 am β’ 37 3 β’ view
Independent work doesn't get the same benefit of the doubt, because you can't trust the intentions of a person with that much creative agency. But if it's a lot of people doing salaried work that was vetted by a big company, well, maybe it's not perfect, but normal folks let them put it on the TV.
aug 29, 2025, 12:27 am β’ 21 0 β’ view
HELP
aug 29, 2025, 12:30 am β’ 4 0 β’ view
WOW. Was wondering why you specified "liberal puritan" and this lines up perfectly The same people would probably tell you that unambiguously consensual sex between a tenant and landlord is possible. Or a boss and their direct subordinate
aug 29, 2025, 2:36 pm β’ 1 0 β’ view
An Arcane AU in which everything is the same except the show stinks
aug 29, 2025, 12:58 am β’ 41 0 β’ view
That's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if it pays off
aug 29, 2025, 12:59 am β’ 39 0 β’ view
*points at Season 2 then begins sobbing*
aug 29, 2025, 9:06 am β’ 1 0 β’ view
Apparently they NEED to use a safe word. They NEED to have shitty sex
aug 29, 2025, 4:06 pm β’ 0 0 β’ view
Arcane is now banned from the arcane fanfiction compilation
aug 29, 2025, 1:04 am β’ 19 0 β’ view
so you literally can't write a canon fic under these rules
aug 29, 2025, 12:15 am β’ 32 0 β’ view
This is why itβs actually good to be raised in an actual puritanical religion because then you know that ALL sex is corruption! *taps temple*
aug 29, 2025, 12:25 am β’ 11 0 β’ view
aug 29, 2025, 1:01 am β’ 0 0 β’ view
That's a... surprisingly long a restrictive list of requirements for a kinky erotica competition.
aug 29, 2025, 7:05 am β’ 2 0 β’ view
Omg itβs Puritan kink
aug 29, 2025, 12:09 am β’ 8 0 β’ view
But is he/him lesbian CaitVi okay???
aug 29, 2025, 6:47 am β’ 0 0 β’ view
LMAO
aug 29, 2025, 12:25 am β’ 50 0 β’ view
aug 29, 2025, 7:07 am β’ 0 0 β’ view
I missed that part but wow. Thatβs extra sad.
aug 29, 2025, 1:59 am β’ 12 0 β’ view
aug 29, 2025, 1:48 am β’ 13 0 β’ view
???????
aug 29, 2025, 12:49 am β’ 1 0 β’ view
Snort-laughed so loudly at this I startled the cat π
aug 29, 2025, 1:00 pm β’ 9 0 β’ view
Puritanism and bigotry. Goes together like peas in a pod, I notice.
aug 30, 2025, 3:04 pm β’ 0 0 β’ view
??βΒΏ!?βοΈβ½!βΒΏβ
aug 29, 2025, 12:37 am β’ 1 0 β’ view
they really said "no kink at kinktober"
aug 29, 2025, 12:05 am β’ 72 0 β’ view
someone on tumblr made this and i havent stopped thinking about it youtu.be/faS0p6HNMZs?...
aug 29, 2025, 1:59 am β’ 26 4 β’ view
I've been watching this about once a day since it was first posted on tumblr and every time I just absolutely lose my shit
aug 29, 2025, 4:35 am β’ 7 0 β’ view
toxic positivity but for jorkin' it
aug 29, 2025, 12:07 am β’ 32 0 β’ view
I'm just kind of baffled by "all participants must be in an established relationship." Got to make sure the kink stays true to the source material. Jayce WILL be shipped with Mel.
aug 29, 2025, 7:28 am β’ 2 0 β’ view
Completely floored by the implications of point 2.a.i. and that there are that many sub bullets for fanfic rules. Could their "established relationship" be simply narrative establishment that they are strangers to each other lol
aug 29, 2025, 3:00 am β’ 2 0 β’ view
"Hey get me a fic with nothing"
aug 29, 2025, 12:09 pm β’ 1 0 β’ view
is "authority-based coercion" not kinda what happens in the fucking show?????????????????
aug 29, 2025, 2:58 am β’ 13 0 β’ view
Which, admittedly, is why I kind of hate Cait and Vi's relationship. It would work if the writing showed awareness of their fucked up dynamic but it clearly thinks it's wholesome and free and it just isn't
aug 29, 2025, 3:05 am β’ 8 0 β’ view
god forbid a fictional porn zine have fetishes!
aug 29, 2025, 12:09 am β’ 6 0 β’ view
my kink is KINDNESS and RESPECT π€
aug 29, 2025, 12:15 am β’ 20 0 β’ view
aug 29, 2025, 12:19 am β’ 47 0 β’ view
i have an app for audio smut (very porn-for-women coded) and like 90% of the scenes start with the speaker establishing safe words. like thatβs great but Iβm not actually here and u canβt actually hear me and what is this charade that weβre doing
aug 29, 2025, 12:18 am β’ 20 1 β’ view
It's really bizarre.
aug 29, 2025, 12:19 am β’ 4 0 β’ view
Thatβsβ¦ really funny? Iβm imagining JOI porn where the person asks for the light and just waits in uncomfortably long silence a la Dora the Explorer.
aug 29, 2025, 1:35 am β’ 6 0 β’ view
like, isn't your "safe word" in this scenario just hitting the pause button???
aug 29, 2025, 6:50 am β’ 2 0 β’ view
Hey Siri, SAFEWORD
aug 29, 2025, 1:19 am β’ 2 0 β’ view
thereβs so many things here to scream about but βmust show joy and agencyβ is particularly breaking my brain this is about fictional characters who thus cannot have agency, but also the idea of ~compulsory agency~ feels representative of the whole rhetorical weaponizing deal happening here
aug 29, 2025, 2:23 am β’ 42 1 β’ view
it's so many levels of derangement packed into a single document. like you just need to believe dozens of totally bizarre and incoherent things to produce it.
aug 29, 2025, 2:24 am β’ 30 0 β’ view
aug 29, 2025, 5:01 am β’ 2 0 β’ view
... honestly just makes me think about how my partner in an extremely compromised state due to severe illness told doctors that they couldn't make a decision because of their mental state, to which the doctors universally responded "well actually, since you said you can't, you can"
aug 29, 2025, 7:41 am β’ 1 0 β’ view
"We need your consent." "I am incapable of consenting right now." "Well, because you are capable of saying that, it means you are capable of consent, so you have to make a decision now." The capacity to recognize one's capability does not confer surprise bonus capabilities.
aug 29, 2025, 7:42 am β’ 2 0 β’ view
That's literally the titular catch from Catch-22.
aug 29, 2025, 2:37 pm β’ 1 0 β’ view
I still haven't read it. When you say literally.. /how/ literally? xD (Don't answer that.) (Like, as in, it was in a medical context? Or just insisting that recognizing lack of a capability confers that capability? Aaa. I want the answer but also it IS on my reading list.)
aug 29, 2025, 10:37 pm β’ 0 0 β’ view
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catch-2...
aug 29, 2025, 10:49 pm β’ 1 0 β’ view
lights on, clothes on, missionary with no movement whatsoever
aug 29, 2025, 8:18 am β’ 1 0 β’ view
Oh yeah this whole thing is truly the gift that keeps giving for me. This week it was noticing the rule that says no ""harm"" because that's condoning "sexual violence", a thing totally normal to expect from kinktober. You better not spank that bare knuckle boxer, she might get an ouchy
aug 29, 2025, 6:49 am β’ 3 0 β’ view
ensuring consent and safety in the scene isn't puritanical - it's a fundamental act of humanism if you lack that, no one should be engaging with you full stop
aug 29, 2025, 2:16 am β’ 0 0 β’ view
It could be implied. For example, if it's explicitly established prior, AND after, and nothing says otherwise β it is reasonable to assume it was present during. Requiring it to be this specific β from fanfiction about a story that's not β is weird. Especially given the inherent power dynamics.
aug 29, 2025, 9:52 am β’ 1 0 β’ view
this is for fanfiction about cartoons
aug 29, 2025, 2:17 am β’ 29 0 β’ view
And what part of, they can be trans and genderexpressive but can't be male, is ensuring safety and consent lmao
sep 1, 2025, 2:59 pm β’ 0 0 β’ view
"must show joy" literally dystopian
aug 29, 2025, 10:36 am β’ 3 0 β’ view
It's so weird and baffling that anyone is still doing this in the current political climate.
aug 29, 2025, 1:09 am β’ 11 0 β’ view
I thought this was real for a second and was like well they want to protect themselves and then was like oh they're cartoon characters
aug 29, 2025, 12:07 am β’ 4 0 β’ view
I hate every single thing about that.
aug 29, 2025, 12:16 am β’ 6 0 β’ view
Kink****** *terms and conditions apply
aug 29, 2025, 5:28 am β’ 20 0 β’ view
at least rape stopped happening in the real world when everyone started following the fanfiction rules
aug 29, 2025, 1:00 am β’ 40 0 β’ view
Yeah, I was going to say this reads like some religious ritual to ensure no harm ever comes to you. If I donβt say or think or write the bad words, then the bad words wonβt happen.
aug 29, 2025, 1:16 am β’ 28 0 β’ view
My rule of thumb for this stuff is that if your parameters would forbid something like Sunstone from being created, they're bad parameters.
aug 29, 2025, 6:19 am β’ 6 0 β’ view
Such bullshit. "Select safe words" -- it's a fanfiction!! Do you expect the characters to be a positive rolemodel of real life, affirmative consent negotiation? The bit about "taken out of context" is so weird too, obviously bits from a CNC scene could seem non-consensual, that's the whole point!
aug 29, 2025, 12:55 am β’ 7 0 β’ view
Isn't one of them a cop and the other a prisoner?
aug 29, 2025, 6:34 am β’ 4 0 β’ view
lmao yes
aug 29, 2025, 6:35 am β’ 3 0 β’ view
Lol I just saw that you said that in a follow up comment, my bad
aug 29, 2025, 6:41 am β’ 2 0 β’ view
these guidelines read like an instructional manual for commissioning an illustrated sex ed textbook lol
aug 29, 2025, 12:12 am β’ 31 0 β’ view
like there was that one actual sex ed manga about a school nurse dealing with a highschool kid who gets his girlfriend pregnant and other teenaged sex stuff and even that wasn't quite this precious about this kinda shit lol
aug 29, 2025, 12:14 am β’ 17 0 β’ view
Has anyone asked the person who wrote this why? Like, I know what the reason is, but I want to know what they would say the reason is. If one of these weirdos would just say, "I have the emotional maturity of a table lamp and also I'm a control freak," I would respect them a lot more.
aug 29, 2025, 12:40 am β’ 10 0 β’ view
Obviously the solution is to have the characters give interviews at the beginning and end of the story like the kinkdotcom performers do
aug 29, 2025, 12:20 am β’ 20 1 β’ view
IT TOOK ME SO LONG (+a search for βCaitViβ) TO REALISE THESE ARE RULES FOR ~FICTIONAL~ ENCOUNTERS
aug 29, 2025, 5:01 am β’ 13 0 β’ view
No authority based coercion is so funny when their canon relationship dynamic is occupying soldier turned military dictator/prisoner of occupied territory arrested as a child. Possibly the most predatory power dynamic that can exist.
aug 29, 2025, 1:56 pm β’ 3 0 β’ view
"no authority based coercion" the entire second season of the show is vi being brainwashed into joining the very militia that killed her parents and the show treats this as Good and Smart.
aug 29, 2025, 12:40 am β’ 10 0 β’ view
"it's okay to be a cop if you get laid with another hot cop" It's both really dumb from a character arc standpoint and is really just ripe for some toxic brainwash porn which *should be allowed here given the fucking show*
aug 29, 2025, 12:42 am β’ 11 0 β’ view
Write something spicy but remove all the spicy elements.
aug 29, 2025, 12:47 am β’ 2 0 β’ view
What a long and winding ruleset for what is basically just virtual/fictional puppets. Who hosted this thing? Anti-porn activists?
aug 30, 2025, 3:03 pm β’ 0 0 β’ view
The best part is they eventually got so much shit they made this Barbara Streisanding statement clarifying that this event was Not a way for the organizers to sneakily commission fanworks without paying for them lmao (categorically, it is lmao)
aug 29, 2025, 3:35 am β’ 16 0 β’ view
this has strong "no real world experience with kink" energy
aug 29, 2025, 12:38 pm β’ 2 0 β’ view
stupid to nitpick stupid but itβs so (not) funny that they all but explicitly say doms donβt get aftercare
aug 29, 2025, 12:11 am β’ 82 0 β’ view
I was literally just thinking that.
aug 29, 2025, 1:21 am β’ 5 0 β’ view
Puritan gender politics strikes again lol
aug 29, 2025, 12:56 am β’ 22 0 β’ view
They need to wear a billboard sized hat that says βHATER OF FUNβ
aug 29, 2025, 1:24 am β’ 4 0 β’ view
I don't go here but isn't the point of tagging that you don't need to read stuff you don't like?
aug 29, 2025, 7:18 am β’ 1 0 β’ view
i wonder what their plan is for people who break the rules
aug 29, 2025, 12:29 am β’ 5 0 β’ view
>kinktober >no kink allowed fuck u if im writing cnc/noncon thatβs gonna be the most vile, brutal shit i can think of cause thats Kinda the Point
sep 1, 2025, 12:16 am β’ 1 0 β’ view
Iβm so horny now
aug 29, 2025, 1:50 am β’ 4 0 β’ view
all kinks must be at least two layers of fiction deep. depicting a fantasy scenario is too dangerous, for safety you may only depict characters engaging (cautiously!) with *their* fantasies through roleplay
aug 29, 2025, 12:19 am β’ 57 1 β’ view
listen, it's time queer artists acknowledge that having deviant sexual desires is unpleasant and could harm someone! sublimate and abstract them like a normal, good adult.
aug 29, 2025, 12:27 am β’ 44 0 β’ view
Women are *always* saying this
aug 29, 2025, 12:59 am β’ 15 0 β’ view