Must be why Bernie sued in the state of Florida over it and why the DNC backlash was so great they changed the superdelegate process. By the way, Nancy Pelosis daughter is a superdelegate. Nepotism.

Democrats change the superdelegate process every cycle and have since after the post 1968 McGovern-Fraser reforms.

Also Sanders got far fewer votes than the eventual nominee from Democratic presidential primary voters every time he ran. In 2016, it was a 12 point Sanders loss with all primary voters nationwide - and that landslide against him was far better for than 2020. Encourage you to check for yourself.

Rather than assess the truth value of that statement, I'm talking about the process in which starting in 2020 superdelegates can't vote in the first ballot. www.270towin.com/content/supe...

Dude, I’m a political scientist who took undergrad and doctoral level courses on political parties. Just read a book about party nominating processes.

Not disputing that as I stated. Only clarifying.

There’s just nothing unusual or interesting about Dems changing party nomination processes. It’s every cycle since McGovern-Fraser and they always do it in response to internal constituencies and perceived problems. National rules are complicated. State parties have to file plans, get approval.

Sounds like a corrupt party that chooses its winners instead of letting their voters choose. Them doing it for forever isnt a win lol

Um, no. Party nominating processes changed for 1972 do nearly all nominating delegates were picked by voters and since then every nominee was the choice of the majority of primary VOTERS. Clinton beat Sanders by 12 points among voters nationally. That’s a landslide.

That is, since the McGovern-Fraser reforms and processes since.

I have a question. If we're trying get rid of the electoral college which is being abused in winner-take-all schemes, and the "delegate" system is an antiquated piece of history like the college is, why not just make it easier with a popular vote? In both cases? (talking ideals, not practicality)

Democrats don’t use winner take all in any presidential delegate selection. Republicans do in some states.

I don't think it's that simple but I do think it raises questions, hence they improved by making changes. I just hope there isn't a repeat. They aren't legally required to uphold their own rules because the partisan apparatus are private corps in both RNC and DNC. Is our pressure enough? We'll see.

I agree, what is relevant is what is changed and why.

And the super delegates have not once, in any cycle, had any effect at all on the nomination, because they have consistently voted with the regular delegates - every single time. And ALL of the superdelegates are party bigwigs - that's literally how they're chosen.

Several Sanders campaign staff were super delegates too. Favoritism.

It wasn’t Bernie who sued, it was some of his supporters. They lost in Florida and then lost on appeal in Georgia. The existence of a lawsuit proves nothing.