Well not the majority of voters who voted in November. Dems need to get control of at least one House of Congress soon.
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Well not the majority of voters who voted in November. Dems need to get control of at least one House of Congress soon.
Thank you. I am interested in conversing with your further also.
Yes. I wrote an article about some of this, below. And the classic book, The True Believer, by Hoffer, written in 1951, describes much of this in more detail, with examples from history. It describes MAGA to a tee. Bc history repeats. upine.medium.com/father-hunge...
Yes. Though some not for profit media are too concerned w their donors' feelings.
Yes it's a daunting task to find the truth. Very few ppl are up to doing it, it's so much work nowadays.
Yes, some think that is "on their side." But some didn't think that til they started consuming media that told them that 10,000 times.
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Better education would help but is not the only factor. I used to have a neighbor who was a heart surgeon who believed everything Fox told him. Ppl go to media that are "on their side." Which for him meant media saying he shdn't ever have to pay taxes.
Many use critical thinking in other areas. No one fact checks & researches everything their favorite media tell them. Here is how they end up trusting the least trustworthy ppl & media: upine.medium.com/the-distrust...
Yes.
So R U an internationally well known business owner who has as much to lose as the Netflix guy? If not, yr risk is not equal to the risk he took & that many others R afraid to take. Sorry to have assumed U don't own a business. Tho it's clear U R not taking the risks U blame others 4 not taking.
Not saying bravery isn't gd. Am saying most humans aren't brave but expect others 2B. U R taking some risk but not as much as ppl who spent their lives building a business, if they openly worked against T. Easy to imagine you'd take the risk. But if U don't own a business, U don't have to decide.
THey don't have the least amount of balls. They have average balls i.e. almost none. They're not diff than other ppl in that way.
I never assumed that. I said you were at LESS risk than well known ppl who own the types of large businesses, some of which have already been targeted by Trump.
Many ppl listen to media who said that was a "tourist visit." Of course they didn't show the video.
They don't consciously choose to do it to themselves. Once they choose their media & constantly listen to it, it happens. And they don't look stupid to each other. They all together believe the lies are true.
Not always the intention. But if that advice to abandon Bsky or spend much time on Xitter were followed by a large #, that wd be its effect. Many centrists don't realize how their advice/ideas wd/do help Rght Wng disinformation spreaders & harm libs by decreasing organiz/focus/supportive alliances.
Not always the intention. But if that advice to abandon Bsky or spend much time on Xitter were followed by a large #, that wd be its effect. Many centrists don't realize how their advice/ideas wd/do help Rght Wng disinformation spreaders & harm libs by decreasing organiz/focus/supportive alliances.
Thank you on this labor day!!
Most official Dem leaders, so far, are not very brave in standing up to Trump so far. Some Dems are, but usually not the official Congressional leaders. I hear that DNC chair Ken Martin wants to change this though.
Easy to say other ppl shd be brave. Compared to business owners who know their businesses cd be harmed by T as many already have, U R not taking that much risk. Yes, the Netflix guy is brave & I'm glad. But most humans are cowardly & take small--if any--risks, while expecting bravery of others.
The reason I ask: I am constantly told by ppl on this site that I am spreading disinfo if I disagree w e.g. the idea that T is the savior of the working class. Most ppl seem to think everything they believe bc they've heard it 1000 times is true & that everything that wd contradict it is false.
I’m back there in the 687th row, 3rd from the right.
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People are saying it’s the best slack jaw. Slack jaw the likes of which nobody has ever seen before.
I thought it was the end for my geriatric dog because she stopped eating and wasted away to literal skin and bones but it turned out it was just because she was a huge drama queen who was bored of the food we were feeding her
Yr choice. The program's goal is to increase the # of Dem voters. And hanging w ppl who are already Dem voters won't do that, tho of course there's nothing wrong w doing so. You can be comfy. Others can take risks 4 democracy. I don't blame business ppl donors 4 wanting to decrease their risk.
And also bc he's one of the many liberal bashing Right Wngers masquerading as centrists & consistently advises liberals in ways that wd harm them. Following this advice wd decrease lib organization, focus & supportive alliances & fill our heads w incessant RWng disinfo--to just choose a few harms.
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IT's not strange that any anti-MAGA group would hide their donor list. Billionaires R terrified of T. He cd destroy their businesses. He's harmed many businesses. The non-Left Wing 1s just bow before T. And I totally understand if Left Wing 1s don't want to advertise they're working against MAGA.
Good article!
Thanks, May.
Have you tried telling Trump supporters that? If so, what do they say? I find very few of them are open to truth, though some are.
You know it's not publicly available. But it's a progressive group, not a DNC-sponsored group.
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One thing they’ve been very successful at is making it so when sober experts put their careers and reputations on the line to issue grave warnings, it gets mostly a shrug.
I've got no beef with this woman coming into the light 20 years too late. Sad, but whatever. I've got a *huge* problem with media professional Never Trumpers who set themselves up as political experts who claim a) no one coulda seen this coming and, b) we who *did* see it coming don't exist.
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During Jim Crow, many states mandated that anyone seeking to register to vote or apply to a state university had to have multiple voters/alumni “vouch” for their character. It was an easy if unsubtle way to maintain all-white (or mostly-white) institutions
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The group isn't related to the DNC. They're to the Left of DNC. And talking points are constantly being downloaded to your brain on social media. It's just that they're mostly Right Wing Dem-bashing talking pnts from RWngers pretending 2B Dems. I'd like to hear more from the Left, but U may differ.
That may be so. Tho there's another flaw in most ppl who write Bluesky bad posts/articles: The majority are MAGA helpers pretending 2B centrist lib, to give libs bad advice that will hurt us if we follow it & to dissuade liba from organizing/focusing on what's important. MSMedia are full of these
A White Australia Warrior, taking a break from the No Migration folk on Sunday's march...
Instagram video about how Trump can control the minds of some ppl who are unaware of what he's doing.
Don't like that? Then maybe it's upine.medium.com/time-to-solv...
Except that most ppl believe what Right Wing media saynow. Bc most media are RWng now. Sinclair alone covers 40% of households. upine.medium.com/the-vast-rea...
Ideally, your proof of life photo ops don’t come off as proof of sick.
Is the UK like U.S. where Rght Wngers own most media & dominate even mixed (that include both RW & LW views) mainstream media? So that even liberals are drowning in RW lies & RW points of view & believe them? And where many liberal orgs are infiltrated w RWngers pretending 2B libs to hurt libs?
Yes. Nate also keeps advising Democrats in ways that would help Republicans win if they followed Nate's advice. Much like most Dem consultants, unfortunately. upine.medium.com/democratic-p...
Good for you. It does sometimes work, but rarely. I admire anyone who has the patience to try it. There are some MAGAs who are open to new info. But the majority seem not to be open.
Politico's "good journalism." foreignpolicy.com/2022/01/06/a...
Man seeing the outrage posters who hate Dems post "actually Axios and Politico do good journalism" is very funny
happy place, plot 29
Yes. NYT enforcing the same status hierarchy of parties they've held for decades. GOP is the king party to be glorified or excused. Dems are the chambermaid party, to be bashed & belittled at every real or imagined opportunity. Wish MSM didn't do this. I don't make the rules. Mainstream media do.
Remembering when the NYT went on a weeks-long bender covering a decades-old real estate deal the Clintons were involved in, in which they *lost money*.
I would like them to. But I don't think we're screwed if they don't. Netanyahu is planning to run everyone out of Gaza & Trump is planning to build luxury resorts there. I doubt, once that is done, that Dems are going to be able to get Gaza back for Palestinians.
The ppl who own the most media can repeat their own messages incessantly & so they are heard more by more ppl, including heard more by mainstream media. This doesn't happen "somehow." It happens due to owning most media. 40% of households get Sinclair TV now. upine.medium.com/time-to-solv...
This is true. And the reason is: Ppl believe what's repeated by a trusted source. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusor... And most media are Right Wing now. So ppl are drowning in RWng lies. And even mainstream media are, at best, mixed, including many RWng views. upine.medium.com/the-vast-rea...
Great thread about the pandemic & the political parties.
That may be. This is not satire. It's mainstream media's Right Wing bias, glorifying GOP & always looking for virtues in them, while bashing Dems & always looks for real or imaginary flaws in them. The same status hierarchy that MSM have enforced for decades.
They're called Nice Polite Republicans station for a reason.
Despite the AP framing, President Trump didn’t say anything. Someone operating the president’s Truth Social account typed out that statement. He’s still in hiding
We could ask candidates for their stance & tell them ours & ask them for what we want. Re: Gaza, it sure looks like there won't be anything left to save, once Netanyahu & Trump get through with it
Please refer me to one of your articles or one by others that cites misinformation spread by Chorus. Thanks.
Those are present. Although most foreign trolls claim to be American.
And of course I read the article. And Taylor Lorenz's post after posting it asking ppl if the FEC should "crack down on" this liberal effort. "Taking dark money" is a negative formulation of this. Many nonprofit orgs do not publicly reveal their donors.
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True. Have those ppl in that group been spreading disinformation? I criticize Dems a lot too--for poor messaging, for not getting liberals to buy/create more media so liberals are not drowned out by the majority of media ownership which is Right Wing etc.
We each evaluate credibility of influencers on our own. This is a daunting task. Even Blue Sky has plenty of liberal imitating MAGA trolls, paid to help MAGA by discouraging ppl from voting Dem--supposedly bc Dems don't 100% agree with the particular issue of the group they pretend 2B a part of.
Yes. Some ppl focusing on these issues are constantly discouraging ppl from voting Dem, to punish Dems for not agreeing w their group. Even when I agree w the group otherwise, I won't discourage Dem voters & help MAGA. Some of these ppl R domestic or foreign MAGA trolls paid to help MAGA win.
Thank you for the reminder that I find myself consumed by those issues. It's definitely time to concentrate my efforts on the defeat of fascism. I hope I can influence others to do likewise, because you're right - we're not getting anywhere until we dispel that ideology.
Yes. That's the status hierarchy habitually observed by media. Right Wing media & even mainstream media have long treated GOP as the king party, to be glorified or excused & Dems as the chambermaid party to be belittled & criticized for every real or imagined small flaw.
Just remembering when slack jaw POTUS was a red alert situation.
Yes, many are paid trolls helping MAGA, including ones from foreign nations.
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Excellent NYT story ruined by one subhead and one paragraph. No, red-state governors are not going to "rethink" putting their National Guardsmen on their own streets if it brings down crime. As one expert explained, "It’s designed to humiliate political opponents." www.nytimes.com/2025/09/01/u...
Understandable. What I'd like to stop being flooded with are the covert MAGA helpers--obsessed with Gaza or trans issues or race--not in rather normal ways, but in particular ways--the purpose of which seems to be to try to help MAGA by always defeating all Democrats at the polls.
The criticism mostly coming from ppl who want all liberals to be either 24/7/365 all about Palestine, or about trans issues or about race. These are all issues liberals care about, but they will get nowhere if we don't defeat fascism.
Yes. Tho I wdn't say Jeffries & Schumer act on their own interests as much as habits. @briantylercohen.bsky.social is starting a soc media effort. @taraemcg.bsky.social started a traditional media effort a while back. They're being met w the usual barrage of criticism lib actions are met with. Sigh
Well, time will tell if they're credible & accountable. Personally I want to give them a chance.
I never put words in your mouth. What I said is true. "Everything liberals do seems to be met with a litany of criticism--even things w a good chance of stopping fascism." I wasn't talking about you as an individual & never said U criticize everything libs do.
Talking one on one rarely helps. Right Wing media tells them 1000 lies for every truth you say to them. Mass media is the way. upine.medium.com/time-to-solv...
Ppl who vote GOP don't even know what policies they voted for & are unlikely to do anything to help anyone. No, GOP won't ban viagra. They want to pretend they're helping males, at least white males, to be as free as they want. Which they're not. They just lie & get votes.
I'm against funding what Netanyahu is doing too. But I am not willing to let GOP retain control of Congress in order to punish Dems for not doing what I want. The effect of the supposedly pro-Gaza movement has been & will continue to be, to help T & other fascists & to harm Gaza. I am not for that
Yes, that's about what this amounts to. Their true MAGA barefoot and pregnant selves.
You haven't noticed all the ppl resigning from WaPo bc of content control, now that Bezos wants gov contracts from the T admin? Editorial review is a lot more than verification of veracity. They often don 't allow articles, or don't allow them unless changed, in ways that have nothing to do w truth.
The usual situation for journalists is to work for an employer who controls their content to some degree. This is nothing unusual for journalists, much less for influencers. And why should Chorus pay for ppl to do things that are counterproductive to achieving their goals of stopping fascism?
You mean like Taylor Lorenz and Right Wingers in mainstream media? Yes they would. This effort is the opposite of that.
There is some nonprofit journalism.
The usual situation for journalists is to work for an employer who controls their content to some degree. This is nothing unusual for journalists, much less for influencers. And why should Chorus pay for ppl to do things that are counterproductive to achieving their goals of stopping fascism?
I can't find that youtube site. Is it real or fake?
You're on social media which is full of paid trolls.
Taylor asked ppl right here on Bsky, if the FEC shd "crack down on" this effort. She's definitely sided against this effort. And if Chorus works to end fascism, she will have been against a successful strategy for ending fascism
She asked ppl right here on Bsky, if the FEC shd "crack down on" this effort. She's definitely sided against this effort. And if Chorus works to end fascism, she will have been against a successful strategy for ending fascism.
I don't want GOP Lite policies. And some GOP campaigning strategies are unethical and shd not be used by Dems. But some GOP campaigning strategies are ethical enough & can be used by Dems. Many nonprofits don't publicly reveal their donors. There's nothing new or unusual there.