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created April 27, 2023

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Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

this last one is exactly the "hide keys" scenario right? because otherwise the client could also read/write from s3.

7/9/2025, 6:18:37 AM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

got it. i guess it can be done with views / stored procedures, but maybe people will prefer using a non-db language.

6/9/2025, 12:02:27 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

but in the early days the PHP/CGI did also the rendering. now the rendering is done on the client, so why not call the SQL from the client as well?

6/9/2025, 10:01:24 AM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

i guess i also don't understand the majority of the "backend" thing, assuming it is stateless and only orchestrates calls to other services.

6/9/2025, 9:19:12 AM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

i guess i also don't understand the majority of the "backend" thing, assuming it is stateless and only orchestrates calls to other services.

6/9/2025, 9:19:06 AM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

how do you ensure it happens in a serverless function? always call some authentication server before calling the other server(s)? if so, why can't a token-based solution work just as well? (the auth servers gives the client a token which is then used with the other servers)?

6/9/2025, 9:14:51 AM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

wdym by "maintain code on the client"? its a browser and it runs whatever code you put in your static html/js files.

6/9/2025, 9:04:47 AM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social)

can someone explain "serverless backends" to me? it seems that they run functions on demand. but if these functions cannot access any persistent state, why not run them on the client? the only reason I see is to hide DBs/APIs tokens/secrets from the client, but is that really all there is to it?

6/9/2025, 8:55:15 AM | 3 1 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

its perhaps THE most fascinating thing about LLMs in my view.

6/9/2025, 5:56:08 AM | 4 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

how do you know the ground truth for human steps?

6/9/2025, 5:52:20 AM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

(or we can see it as a metaphor maybe)

1/9/2025, 5:47:39 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

yup, happened to me too.. thats a bug. will attempt to fix tonight.

1/9/2025, 5:47:15 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

not early - but i did get both balls on the same side after a day+, a bug on my part which should be fixed at some point...

1/9/2025, 4:34:12 PM | 2 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

cest ne une rosh shel dag

1/9/2025, 9:30:37 AM | 2 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

maybe. should be easy enough to check.

31/8/2025, 3:50:12 PM | 2 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

the suspense is like 80% of the fun!!

31/8/2025, 3:49:34 PM | 4 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

it kinda looked like a pokeball at some point.

31/8/2025, 3:48:35 PM | 2 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

wdym by "similar"? the outer circle cannot change. but it is quite diverse within that constraint.

31/8/2025, 3:44:30 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

interesting. i'd say "take the code and try it out", but i suspect it is too brittle and will just trash the hacky collision mechanism and get you some very weird results... (so, "yes", i guess, but for the wrong reasons)

31/8/2025, 3:43:07 PM | 2 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

it is currently fully deterministic. it should be easy to introduce randomness in the starting directions of each "ball".

31/8/2025, 3:17:02 PM | 3 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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i created this thingy yesterday and now I cannot stop watching it. yoavg.github.io/eternal/

31/8/2025, 2:44:39 PM | 94 14 | View on Bluesky | view

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a trivia fact about this paper is that we submitted it to arxiv weeks ago, and it was hanging there in limbo for quite a while. apparently because we submitted to "AI" while they moved it to "HCI".

27/8/2025, 9:45:38 PM | 6 1 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

the appealing thing for me about this particular test is that we managed to somewhat-robustly measure something meaningful about the model's "actual" process, *and* sort-of measure how humans perceive it.

27/8/2025, 9:43:46 PM | 4 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

i mean, i think about these topics a lot and i think the levels in which we don't understand these things are very much multi-faceted ;) this is just one of them.

27/8/2025, 9:41:56 PM | 3 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

I was not familiar, and it looks very interesting. thanks!

27/8/2025, 9:37:11 PM | 3 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

what this means it that we don't have a good mental model of how different steps in the LLM generation process depend on each other, and what are the causal relations that make it tick. which in turn means that LLM's explanations might be "transparent", but also that we fail to interpret them.

27/8/2025, 9:35:59 PM | 10 1 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

the test is very simple: given an AI reasoning text broken into steps, we highlight one step as the target, and then ask you to identify the one-out-of-four preceding steps that we choose, which, if removed, will change the target step. turns out this is really hard.

27/8/2025, 9:34:16 PM | 6 1 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

how well do *you* understand how AI reasoning works? test yourself here: do-you-understand-ai.com

27/8/2025, 9:31:49 PM | 9 1 | View on Bluesky | view

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When reading AI reasoning text (aka CoT), we (humans) form a narrative about the underlying computation process, which we take as a transparent explanation of model behavior. But what if our narratives are wrong? We measure that and find it usually is. Now on arXiv: arxiv.org/abs/2508.16599

27/8/2025, 9:30:18 PM | 81 22 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

"attention" duh. also "zoneout", though it was admittedly short-lived.

27/8/2025, 9:28:54 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

to be more precise, I did not say they were not "based on" linear algebra, only that linear algebra is for the most part not important to understand how they work, and hardly any improvements came about because someone "knew linear algebra". but yes, it's very similar.

27/8/2025, 9:26:55 PM | 2 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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It's live and kicking! paperfinder.allen.ai/chat/ If it was down it was down it was a temporary technical issue.

7/8/2025, 12:47:16 PM | 4 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

לג'יט למרות שאתפלא אם השימוש בנקדן מקנה להם בעלות על החומר המנוקד

5/8/2025, 9:38:18 PM | 2 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

גם התורמים אותם תורמים, ככל הידוע לי. אבל הארגונים נפרדים זה מזה.

5/8/2025, 9:07:36 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

אני הפסקתי להקשיב לרוג'ר ווטרס אבל בעיקר כי הוא די משעמם תכלס.

5/8/2025, 9:05:38 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

הי! אני לא שם כבר תקופה אך מדבר איתם מדי פעם. צוות טוב.

5/8/2025, 8:56:24 PM | 2 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

wdym by "enable manipulation"? the metaphors i think are only "nice to have" are the "projections between spaces" kind of things.

4/7/2025, 6:28:08 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

also, there ARE benefits to taking algebra in undergrad. you learn stuff, and the notions of proofs and abstraction are important to acquire. it just not central to DL.

4/7/2025, 6:26:33 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

and there is also this: bsky.app/profile/yoav...

4/7/2025, 6:02:39 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

currently it is pre-req also here. but ideally there will be removed and replaced with a more suitable class.

4/7/2025, 6:01:39 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

the algebraic terminology is here to stay unfortunately, and we should use it. it doesnt mean we DL is "built on" linear algebra, nor that a linear algebra class should be pre-req.

4/7/2025, 5:54:28 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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if you REALLY want to understand DL, you should start by honing your Category Theory skills, as almost everything in DL at its core can be mapped to a functor or an endofunctor.

4/7/2025, 10:39:42 AM | 2 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

OR you could do what people actually do in ML these days and associate each symbolic token with a random list of numbers, and let the optimization take care of it.

4/7/2025, 10:23:10 AM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

ah, likely. idk

4/7/2025, 10:10:54 AM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

("any" is a bit extreme because the purists will come and say "ohh but you use commutativity and associativity of addition! thats group theory!!". but i agree with you of course)

4/7/2025, 9:52:39 AM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

it seems to me that a large chunk of ML can actually be characterized as doing dim reduction numerically

4/7/2025, 9:47:43 AM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

ok, but where is PCA important as a building block in ML?

4/7/2025, 9:45:52 AM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

idk the sociology of it. tensors are popular because hardware/software support them, and its convenient to implement batches this way i guess.

4/7/2025, 9:45:12 AM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

where is it used that is central / important?

4/7/2025, 9:37:42 AM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

btw, re the hardware example: the hatdware is not built to perform "norm". it is built to approximate norm over a floating point representation of real numbers. this is highly specific and doesnt enjoy the generality of algebra at all. i think it may not even be commutative and associative.

4/7/2025, 9:25:43 AM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

bsky.app/profile/yoav...

4/7/2025, 9:14:28 AM | 5 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social)

taking it a step further, I'd say in many cases using the algebra jargon is harmful to understanding, and its better to just describe whats really going on. ie, "we add an L2 penalty term" --> want the sum of squares to be small. "project to vocab space" --> compute similarity to each vocab item.

4/7/2025, 9:14:04 AM | 7 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

(and the useful parts of the metaphor is also much more geometric than algebric, imo)

4/7/2025, 7:52:28 AM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

i think these are nice metaphors, and i use them daily. i am not at all convinced that they are essential, except for very few select places.

4/7/2025, 7:50:50 AM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

because when we use a term such as "a norm" we get the definition, which is nice, but also a bunch of properties that hold for items of this kind. and if we dont actually rely on these properties later on, then its a waste in terms of what we communicated.

4/7/2025, 7:40:33 AM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

so i would argue that efficiency of computation is nice but also somewhat accidental and not that important. but lets focus on efficiency of communication: my point is kinda exactly around this. in a field that is actually built around algebra, the communication efficiency would be MUCH higher.

4/7/2025, 7:37:28 AM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

טוב גם הטענה "משין לרנינג בנויה על תורת הקבוצות" היא הזויה בעיני. אנחנו כנראה לא מסכימים על ההגדרה של "בנויה על".

4/7/2025, 7:33:43 AM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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אם הטענה היא שאין כלום במתמטיקה בלי אלגברה אז אוקיי, אבל זה קצת טיעון ריק בעיני

4/7/2025, 7:03:45 AM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

איפה אנחנו משתמשים בקונספט הזה? (ואנחנו קצת דוחקים פה את ההגדרה של אלגברה לדעתי, כי אני גם יכול להגיד כך גם שכל אנליזה פונקציונאלית זה בעצם אלגברה, אבל בוא נזניח את זה לרגע)

4/7/2025, 6:59:21 AM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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תרחיב על לפרמל ייצוג וקירוב? למה זה מעניין אותנו ומה האספקטים האלגבריים שם?

4/7/2025, 6:54:28 AM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

what efficiency are we discussing here? efficiency of communication, or efficiency of computation?

4/7/2025, 6:48:38 AM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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סליחה התכוונתי '' "משין לרנינג על אופטימיזציה" זו טענה שאני בכיף ''

4/7/2025, 6:47:45 AM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

"משין לרנינג בנוי על אופטימיזציה" זו טענה שאני מקבל בכייף

4/7/2025, 6:43:27 AM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

i agree that the language is being used. but the language is pretty much the only part that is being meaningfully used.

4/7/2025, 6:35:01 AM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

linear algebra is also concerned with solving systems of linear equations, the representations of linear equations as matrices/vectors, and related objects like spans and bases.

4/7/2025, 6:19:08 AM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

for me, the "algebra" part is the realization that the real numbers and addition/multiplication over them are just a special case of a "group" or a "field", and that many other kinds of groups and fields exist, and can be manipulated similarly, and share many properties.

4/7/2025, 6:19:08 AM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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LoRA can be described without discussing ranks at all, and it would be just as effective. it doesn't rely on any property of rank to work.

3/7/2025, 10:01:52 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

i would say maybe geometric intuitions and how matrix operators relate to geometry? distance functions? JL lemma? not sure. this sounds like a fun class to have, i must say! happy to learn what you *do* teach.

3/7/2025, 9:27:56 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

what do you teach?

3/7/2025, 8:51:19 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

i think you need to learn the terminology. you do not need a traditional linear algebra course, which will be a waste of time from the perspective of ML (of course, its a beautiful topic on its own).

3/7/2025, 8:42:51 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

well if you consider the commutativity and associativity of addition to be linear algebra, then sure, its in. what about convolutions? what mathematical/algebraic properties of them are important?

3/7/2025, 8:36:47 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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i do agree that some amount of LA creep in through optimization, yes. but i don't see how the perceived motivations for representation learning is relevant here.

3/7/2025, 8:35:22 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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what intuitions would these be, for the case of linalg use in ML? matmul is defined the way it is in linalg for a reason, but i dont see how these reasons matter for the ML use.

3/7/2025, 8:08:33 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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why is this statement useful / needed for ML?

3/7/2025, 8:00:18 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

there are many results and concepts in linalg beyond determinants. they are not used in ML. even norms arent really used as norms (what properties of norms are needed, beyond the definitions?)

3/7/2025, 7:56:06 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

good thing that we have GPUs now, then.

3/7/2025, 7:54:03 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

writing matmul by hand in C wouldnt be that bad in terms of performance, and also adding SIMD support to this code. it is nice that we had BLAS routines available, but i dont think it was a deal breaker.

3/7/2025, 7:48:01 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

we could probably invent DL without any linalg concepts if these didnt exist. all we need is scalar addition and multiplication (and associated calculus rules). yes, this includes regularization and things like LoRA. figures like the one below kinda proves the point:

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3/7/2025, 7:38:42 PM | 4 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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i'll elaborate: a common computation pattern in DL happens to coincide with a known operator in linear algebra (matmul), and so we conveniently borrow linalg notation and terminology (matrices, vectors, ranks, norms). but this is just jargon. the algebric properties arent needed.

3/7/2025, 7:38:06 PM | 18 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

it is wrong.

3/7/2025, 7:01:52 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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prove me wrong by listing linear algebra topics / results that are central (or even just important) for ML, modern or otherwise.

3/7/2025, 6:42:25 PM | 2 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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"Modern ML is built on Linear Algebra". lol no its not.

3/7/2025, 6:41:47 PM | 7 1 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

yes, but this can be achieved also if i provide a json schema for describing tools and point to files containing such descriptions, with the implementations being done externally to the protocol. what's the benefit of coupling in the implementation?

3/7/2025, 11:30:54 AM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

can you elaborate on these "more than API calls"? what else does it provide?

3/7/2025, 10:54:45 AM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

Profile picture Yoav Goldberg (@yoavgo.bsky.social) reply parent

the issue is that the MCP couples two things: tool discovery (an LLM friendly description of what tools are available and how to invoke them), and tool implementation. but "implementation" both takes effort, and doesn't need new standards. so why not focus only on discovery?

3/7/2025, 10:53:57 AM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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why is "MCP" implemented as server exposing a set of endpoints, rather than as some JSON schema for defining tool descriptions and allowing these JSON files to be accessed over http? what is the purpose/benefit of the middleman server?

3/7/2025, 10:01:09 AM | 2 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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you know what, nah, we don't want to close it. it will be just 80% closed.

22/6/2025, 1:32:16 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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and now, we will proceed to peacefully close the strait of Hormuz. you know, for the environment.

22/6/2025, 1:21:38 PM | 5 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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for some reason, iran saw this mostly peaceful operation as an act of aggression. they will retaliate in a peaceful manner by causing chaos.

22/6/2025, 12:04:38 PM | 2 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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today, during a peaceful flight over an iranian mountain, a US airplane dropped a mostly peaceful bunker buster bomb, who flew peacefully until it hit the mountain and mostly peaceful facility underneath it. there was a brief period of violent detonation on impact, then peace again.

22/6/2025, 12:01:41 PM | 4 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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אולי זה תלוי את מי קוראים ראשון

14/6/2025, 6:37:33 PM | 0 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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אחרי קבליר וקליי הכל מתגמד

14/6/2025, 6:02:16 PM | 1 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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אחד מלקחי ליל המקלטים אמש הוא שאין לי סבלנות לקרוא ספרות מקצועית, אבל לקרוא ספרות קלה זה די סבבה. מצד שני הספר שהיה לי בנייד, הוא כזה שהתחלתי לקרוא והפסקתי והיתה סיבה שהפסקתי, הוא מייגע ומעפן. בקיצור שילחו המלצות לספרים. עברית או אנגלית, אבל באנגלית ככהנ יהיה לי יותר קל להתארגן.

14/6/2025, 4:16:23 PM | 7 0 | View on Bluesky | view

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לא יודע אם זה שונה (אני לא חזק בעולמות הטקסונומיה של הדמגוגיה). אני רק אומר שזה שהשמאל "לא ממציא דברים כמו הימין", אז זה אולי נכון אבל זה רק כי יש לו טכניקות אחרות לאותה מטרה

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טוב זה לא ממש מקרי קיצון, כי המקרים שונים זה מזה, אבל יש פה מגוון של טכניקות שלא ממציאות עובדות שגויות ועדיין יוצרות דמגוגיה אפקטיבית

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במקרי הקיצון יותר יש את מקס בלומנטל עם 'הישראלים הרגו את עצמם בשביעי באוקטובר' ו(להבדיל, בכל זאת..) את הכתבות 'בינה מלאכותית בצהל' של יובל אברהם בבמה מקומית ו972.

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(וספציפית פה, זה לא שהם המציאו את הסיפור. הם מהדהדים נרטיב שמישהו אחר דוחף, עד כמה שאני רואה)

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כן זה בדיוק מה שאני אומר. הטכניקה אחרת.

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שונרא

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או "ההסטוריון":

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