Man... that juxtaposition. This attempted erasure of around 30% of Jews worldwide who aren't at all religious coupled with a savior narrative of fighting Nazis.
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Man... that juxtaposition. This attempted erasure of around 30% of Jews worldwide who aren't at all religious coupled with a savior narrative of fighting Nazis.
You speak as if I don't support building UBI.
These evil trolls piss me off so much. They're just trying to undermine Jewish existence.
I don't believe in a god. That literally answers your questions. I'm an atheist. Therefore, I don't believe there is a valid covenant with a god. I am not religious. I'm not a Covenantist. And you're still an antisemite if you do not accept that I am absolutely 100% a Jew.
I am not religious and never have been. I say I'm a Jew. Do you you recognize and honor my Jewish existence the way I would recognize and honor a Palestian's existence as a Palestian?
You are saying I am not a Jew. You are directly denying the Jewish existence of millions of non-religious and secular Jews.
** who often cannot separate
That's the thing. It's not so much the Ashkenazi Jews who have an issue with Arab and Muslims. It's the Eastern Jews who have lived under the oppression of the Arab-Muslim colonial machine non-stop for 1,400 years who can't separate that machine from Arabs or Muslims.
It makes it all the more hilarious when they try to claim that Mizrahi Jews are oppressed by Askhenazim in Israel when they so often point to Ben Gvir as the poster child for Israeli extremism (and trying to paint that as typical).
They're really at best a bloody troll and at worst trying to erase Jewish existence.
** lineage blood or naturalization (we adopt at the national level, more so than just about any other nation does) even as most of us are absolutely descended directly from those of the ME.
AT BEST you are an antisemitic troll.
Mike Trout, because you should be smacked in the face with a trout.
Yeah I, a secularist and atheist Jew, who is in no way a practitioner of Judaism, but grew up on heavy Eastern European Jewish food culture, and sure as fuck loves a good bialy, is saying that every single part of Ashkenazi culture should be redefined as Judaism. READ WHAT I AM ACTUALLY SAYING.
So if you think Jews == religious group, you're way off the mark. Even if religion disappeared tonight, we'd still be Jews in the morning. "The Religion of the Covenant" is not Jewish existence, and really it predates it.
Come on, courts. Keep it up. Keep fighting the fascist.
Yes, which is why it's disgusting that people don't want to admit that Palestine is absolute apartheid against Jews. Outside of Israel's protection, a Jew would be met with death. That's far from full representation.
Fine. One that's sovereign from Isreal too where all current residents are automatically citizens so long as they agree to live side by side equally, Jew, Palestian, Arab, Israeli, whatever, where people are free regardless of race, religion, gender and sexuality, etc. No? Then no.
Nature is... brutal. And Afghanistan can't get a break in general...
When I first started being active on this platform, there were massive groups dedicated to bullying people off of it. I got absolutely slammed, probably worse than I ever have since and now I have 3K followers and the platform is much larger. Let's agree that bullying is NEVER a valid tactic.
DMs are open.
YES the Palestinians are victims. BUT NOT OF ISRAEL and NOT OF JEWS. They are victims of the same abusers who continue to try to destroy Israel. Perhaps an allegory would help.
It was Israel who ultimately helped bring it back and unify it in 2005, which unfortunately failed because of the Hamas-Fatah split and the widespread support of Hamas' antisemitic goals.
Again, Palestine has repeatedly sided with a colonial power that has sought to erase Jewish presence from the land, and which has subjugated Jews in the land for 1,400 years. In 1948, Palestine was destroyed by Egypt and Jordan.
Israel welcomed them in, which is why the majority of Israelis are NOT of European ancestry.
Ironically it isn't the European Jews who have held deep seated hatred for Arabs, but rather the Mizrahi Jews who had continued to live under continual Arab-Muslim colonial occupation for over 1,000 years and then were driven out of homes they had lived in for centuries.
So first off, Whitewashing Jews is screwed up. Second, it was the Arab colonial powers which fought to deny Jews returning to the land. They helped forge the Palestinian identity as a tool against Jews returning home.
The sad reality is most people in Palestine have been successfully taught to hate Jewish existence, which by the way is ILLEGAL in Palestine, as continued Jewish existence is a threat to Islamic claims to our legacy.
Yes, unfortunately Palestine is held hostage by the Arab-Muslim colonial machine, and is brainwashed into acting as a weapon of colonization for that machine, hence why I said understanding the history of that machine is so important.
However without the British taking the region and building a geopolitical territory of Palestine, there would have been no major pillar to connect the identity to, and thus it likely never would have happened.
No unfortunately Palestinian national identity largely emerged to oppose Jewish return to the land, as an offshoot largely of Arab nationalism.
Again I have New York identity, and I poke at those from New Jersey. That does not mean New Yorker is an ethnicity.
Ability to travel isn't what determines if something becomes an ethnicity or not. It is the shift from geography based association to lineage based association, even if the former is kept as well, that makes something into an ethnicity, and a political system on top of that which makes a nation.
Names are powerful, even if they are not "magic." To strip something important to an indigenous people of its name, and replace it with a name of your choice, is an attack on that indigenous people.
And at the end of the day, it is impossible to understand current events in the region without understanding, at least broadly, the 3,000+ years of Jewish history.
That did not happen for those in the region you refer to as Palestine until very recently. That is why the Palestinian people are a very young people. And they are ultimately born of the Jews.
Our lineage, not necessarily our genes, even though most Jews do also trace direct ancestry to Judea. We accept naturalization and treat naturalized members as equal. We are a people because our connection is indeed passed from one generation to the next via lineage.
And it was under the British Mandate that a Palestinian national identity finally emerged and the Palestinian people were born.
And for most of the time "Palestine" was less than that. It was just a geographic marker. There were no Palestinians. A child of a person of the region was not Palestinian because their parents were. It was in the 19th century that things started to change.
> When did Palestinian authors begin to write about Palestine? Again, I'm from New York. Is New Yorker an ethnicity or nationality? No. There is no people "the New Yorkers."
Islam did not "settle into the region" anymore than Christianity "settled into Turtle Island." Islam was forced on the region by brutal colonial rape, and for nearly 1,400 years, Jews were subjugated as second class people by the Arab-Muslim colonial machine.
Then you are a Jew and a practitioner of the religion of the Covenant. Even if that religion disappeared tonight, even if all religion disappeared tonight, you and I would still be Jews in the morning, as much so as we are now.
> That they were a different kind of people in old Roman Palestine... Roman occupied Judea that they forcibly renamed Palestine. It's like telling a member of the Munsee tribe that the correct name of the Mahicannituck Valley is the "Hudson Valley."
However it is dangerous to take a theological understanding of Jewish existence and use that as the correct one. To do so is no more reasonable than taking a creationist stance on cosmology.
Anthropology and history is how we understand the Jewish people. Anthropology includes the scientific and historical study of our ancient religion, its origins, its impact on our people, etc.
Part of the problem is that there is too little secular outreach, so secular Jews often don't get a solid secular understanding of Jewish existence. And no criticism to religion as a whole, at the end of the day, if you want to understand the world, you need to use science.
Why are we Jews? Because our people have existed, as an entity, whether fractured or not, continually, since our identity as a people first solidified in our homeland thousands of years ago.
I'm not religious. I am a Jew. It really isn't even appropriate to call the religion "Judaism" as the religion was practiced by the Israelites before Judea was founded. It is the Religion of the Covenant.
It was only as Jews started to return to our homeland that a Palestinian identity, ethnicity, and nationality arose and it likely never would have solidified if not for the British renaming the Sanjak of Jerusalem to "the British Mandate of Palestine" in honor of the Romans.
Psalm 137 very clearly recognizes the connection that Jews have to our homeland, as symbolized by Zion. I.e. it is a Zionist poem. The land became forcibly named Syria Palaestina when the Jews sundered Judea. However the people who lived there did not become "Palestinians" until much much later.
Okay. Let's step back then. 1. Do you recognize and honor the connection that ALL Jews share to our indigenous homeland in the Levant?
Various people. And why? Because for the same reason people sell land now. Why don't you just say what you really want to say, that the very Jews that Hitler called thieves were thieves all along?
You need to understand what the actual history of the situation is, because right now you are threatening Jewish existence with your ignorance.
Pslam 137: "By the rivers of Babylon we sat and wept when we remembered Zion." Or I can give it to you in the original Hebrew. Zionism is older than Palestine by a long shot. And I do not deny that the Palestinians should be able to stay. You need to understand why history matters.
I am being a LOT calmer than you deserve me to be. You are doing the work of Nazis and their allies, vomiting the same kind of propaganda that they did.
You are threatening our peoples' existence and safety with your ignorant rhetoric. You are getting closer and closer to vilifying the very Jews who fled for their lives from European brutality, while you work to erase the large number of Mizrahi Jews in Israel.
The people who previously owned the parcels. And if you want to go with perpetual land claims, then Jews never lost the claim in the first place.
WHAT DISCREPANCY?! "Syria Palaestina" is what the Romans renamed Judea after they beat and raped it.
The European-Christian and Arab-Muslim colonial machines cannot be understood without their appropriation of Jewish existence. And those two machines have dramatically altered the course of global history, repeatedly, for so many centuries.
Why should you give a fuck about the Jews and Jewish history? Simple. It's because, of no fault of our own, you cannot understand the history of the world without understanding Jewish history.
You're confusing money and wealth. Money is an intermediate in the exchange process. Wealth is usable energy. We can build our own currency systems, and bake UBI into it. And we have usable energy all around us.
I am so tired.
THE NAKBA, AS COINED BY A SYRIAN ARAB NATIONALIST, A DIRECT TRANSLATION OF "SHOAH" ORIGINALLY REFERRD TO THE FAILURE BY THAT MACHINE TO STEAL THE LAND JEWS HAD PURCHASED AND THE FAILURE TO SUBJUGATE US IN OUR OWN LAND ONCE AGAIN.
Second, the core of the origin of the Palestinian people themselves is Arabized Jews stripped of their Jewish identity during that time. THIRD, the same Arab-Muslim colonial machine that did all that still is around, surrounding Israel, and using Palestine to try to gain control of that land again!
So first off, the majority of Israelis are Mizrahi, including Arab Jews thrown out of the Arab world by the very people who subjugated Jews in our own homeland for 1,400 years.
We're not so much less educated. The reality is that until recently few people needed to be truly educated to make the world turn. The rest needed to be educated just enough to listen to the political class' mandates. Things are breaking down because now the average person needs to be educated.
How does it make no sense to you? It is clear expression of a Jew frustrated with being separated from our homeland, while struggling in Arab-Muslim occupied Spain, knowing that Arab-Muslim occupation was equally oppressing the Jewish homeland at the same time...
That poem is My Heart is in the East, written by Judah Halevi, in approximately 1141 CE in occupied Spain. The poem and others like it by him, and his attempted aliyah to our homeland where he died (whether at the gates or in Egypt almost there), inspired a whole wave of Zionist poetic expression.
it is currently through states that we exercise national self determination and supposedly get protection. And it is a need that indigenous people are recognized as having. Shift how we organize and protect each other, it doesn't change who we are but rather how we interact with the world.
Most of the Israel issue is a consequence. I mean we could have called it something else, and if all states disappear and we use some other means to organize people, does that mean Zionism disappears? Nah. That we need a state to recognize us as its indigenous progenitors is important because...
Zionism is the recognition and honoring of the Jewish nation (the Jewish people), and the connection that ALL Jews share to our indigenous homeland in the Levant, symbolized by Zion. And it is not new at all. It is ancient.
You would have a lot less difficulty in your discussions with Jews and allies if you stop using the Nazi/antisemitic definitions of "Zionism" that helped lead to the Shoah in the first place.
There is a far better way to handle the issue of UBI and eliminating poverty, and that's by baking it into the very medium of exchange, first by building out a HEALTHY currency system that can support UBI.
You need to understand that almost all the net worth of people past a certain limit is tied up in stocks, bonds, investments of other sources, and you would see a collapse of both the stock market and the currency system, as well as the banking industry if you tried to "soak billionaires dry."
You are basing your ideas on counterfactual information and horribly weak theory.
6 in 10 would directly be impacted by a stock market crash, and many more would be directly impacted. You'd also see a massive collapse of banks worse than the 08 collapse. Your inability to see how much injury to the average person would be done by a stock market crash of that scale is problematic.
All of course while crashing the stock market which would destroy pensions, etc.? Seems like the approach is not the right one, based on your own numbers. Taxes aren't the solution. Baking UBI into a healthy currency is the solution.
> US billionaires have a net worth of $6.2T and there are over 21M millionaires as well. Taxing them progressively would easily fund UBI. So dissolving the entire net worth of all US billionaires would fund the system for 1.5 years? And probably millionaires depleted in another couple?
** that word
The world coins a term just to make it easier to refer to their opposition to our existence, and then the world says "hey wait how dare you monopolize that world."
Yes. By definition. "Semitic" only referred to a language family until Jew haters decided to coin the term "antisemite" meaning an opposition to Jews as people, opposition to our very existence.
Think the world is saturated with project incubators or maybe the opposite? Far from enough incubators for all the people with really great project ideas who just need a bit of support? I wonder...
The Jewish people, as a whole, are a fairly secular people. Unfortunately because European and Arab colonial powers appropriated our ancient religion, and started forcibly spreading their warped perversions of it around, most of the world just thinks Jew == religious.
As for cryptoassets, they won't circumvent UBI, but instead can be used to build UBI and more. Those who want to keep their control want to believe that these technologies are regressive and oppressive rather than recognizing how liberating they can be when used properly.
"...so will the need to educate people" Suggesting that the only value of education is to create good little workers is a major problem. That may be how the current school system is set up: to create worker drones and obedient citizens. That's not how it has to be.
Government should get out of the way. The political class would never give us UBI anyway because it would make their job obsolete. We'd have the time and resources to manage national affairs ourselves. We need to build UBI.
If he really wanted something like that, he'd be building it right now. It's not that hard to build out UBI if you have a network of people who are willing to listen. And there are still tons of people willing to listen to him. But of course he doesn't really care about building such things.
If it is only available to those below the poverty line, then you punish those who are above it for actually struggling to do something to lift themselves out of poverty. You're building a wall. Just make it available to everyone.
No ethnicities means no Palestinians, no Jews, no Japanese, no Navajo, nada. And no indigenous land claims. That hurts the American tribal nations, Palestinians, Australian aboriginal population, etc. far more than it hurts Israel which simply exists and has the ability to execute its will.
If ethnic groups are real, then Palestinians stopped being a thing the moment that Palestine was destroyed by Egypt and Jordan. Ethnicities are very real. And yes, still a supremacist for believing you have better understanding of ethnicity and Jewish existence than a Jewish anthropologist has.
I just gave you clear UN backed data indicating that more than enough food goes INTO Gaza to prevent starvation. You don't seem to care about that information. You'd rather being "those Jews" are starving people.
Direct consequence of pur physical reality. The externally environment of full of exergy thanks to the sun. That's profit. Of course we only use a fraction of the wealth potential each year because of technological and logistic limitations. Still that flow is where equitable profits originate.
Well... Personal property alone can yield profit because we get new draw in new wealth from the external environment. That's why capitalism itself is fine. It's the creation of artificial monopoly and similar issues that creates unequitable profits.
We can build a system where merit, including both societal and self improvement, is more easily to show, and also grow, while having it also give financial support. And yes, we can build UBI into that whole system.
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Guild Association + Mystery Box subscription service would be a great combination. The subscription service could buy a bunch of stuff from the crafter's guilds, tinkerer's guilds, artist's guilds, etc. and send them out to people looking for new neat things.
I'm very much a capitalist. IP controls are not capitalism. They are artificial monopolies, i.e. cronyism and fascism.